The Running Thread --2025

quick race recap- Revel Big Cottonwood Half Marathon

My legs and core are thrashed. Ran an average of 10min/mile, which put me under my goal of 2hrs 15min. Some interesting and concerning pains popped up momentarily, but all eventually went away.

It’s an amazingly beautiful race, but I did not take time to take pictures because i did not want to stop and throw off any rhythm I may have had.
Fantastic job!
 
quick race recap- Revel Big Cottonwood Half Marathon

My legs and core are thrashed. Ran an average of 10min/mile, which put me under my goal of 2hrs 15min. Some interesting and concerning pains popped up momentarily, but all eventually went away.

It’s an amazingly beautiful race, but I did not take time to take pictures because i did not want to stop and throw off any rhythm I may have had.
Nice one!
 

QOTD: So I have question. Lets say your goal marathon pace is a 8:00 min/mi. You have a half marathon coming up in a few weeks and want to see if fitness wise you are on pace to be able to run the marathon goal... What should be the half marathon goal pace?

ATTQOTD: From the charts I have seen online, it looks like 7:40 pace is a equivalent pace for a half to a 8:00 pace for a full. Ive also read 15-30 seconds faster. I dont know the actual answer, but curious as to what yall think.
 
ATTQOTD: Guess it depends how far along in training you are. I think the estimates are going to give you what’s possible, and maybe assume you’re training for that specific distance. If you’re close to the end of your training, then maybe you could do a half in a time close to the calculated expected time.

But don’t do like me. The first time I ran Boston, I did a half 3 weeks before. I didn’t intend to race, but well, yeah. Ended up with what is still my PR in the half. Not sure it helped me with Boston, but I made rookie mistakes there anyway, so who knows.
 
QOTD: So I have question. Lets say your goal marathon pace is a 8:00 min/mi. You have a half marathon coming up in a few weeks and want to see if fitness wise you are on pace to be able to run the marathon goal... What should be the half marathon goal pace?

ATTQOTD: From the charts I have seen online, it looks like 7:40 pace is a equivalent pace for a half to a 8:00 pace for a full. Ive also read 15-30 seconds faster. I dont know the actual answer, but curious as to what yall think.
Having just raced a half while training for a marathon, I can tell you that it's a crapshoot. It's hard to race well with that much fatigue built up, even if you do a bit of a taper - though it can happen! But a half mid-marathon block may not be your best possible effort.

Marathons are also kind of when race equivalency calculators break down for recreational runners. They're kind of designed based on elite/sub-elite times, and the rest of us will probably never build up enough aerobic capacity to have the same conversions. So if you're putting a HM time into a calculator, you're probably going to want to add 5-10 minutes to that marathon time to feel comfortable about being able to achieve it.

All that being said, there are just too many factors in any race, especially a B race, to have any certainty about how things will play out in the end. It's why I'm not freaking out about my HM pace this past weekend even though it's about what I was hoping my marathon pace would be in six weeks.
 














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