The Running Thread --2025

[garneska]

It was great to see @Disney at Heart and DH. Chatted with both. They were drenched but in good spirits. @princesspirateandrunner recognized us from MW and got fist bumps. It was really hot.

 

[princesspirateandrunner]

It was great to see @Disney at Heart and DH. Chatted with both. They were drenched but in good spirits. @princesspirateandrunner recognized us from MW and got fist bumps. It was really hot.

DH enjoyed seeing you, too! I wasn’t far enough to the left side when I came through to get to see you, unfortunately, but I think I got a glimpse of Whisky. It was definitely a hot one! I hadn’t trained well, but made it through okay. It just doesn’t seem like the Fourth without Peachtree, does it? What a fun day!

 

[The Expert]

Gifting you all this interesting (if a bit basic) read on why running (and walking) are good for you: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/14/...e_code=1.UU8.8HxT.vMqpG0HD55iL&smid=url-share

 

[FlyingDonut]

On a long run earlier this week my brain decided to overthink speed error on my treadmill. So I did some rough video analysis (painted an approximately inch square white on the black belt, measured the belt length, had a program count frames between seeing the white square at the same spot) to calculate speed. This probably isn't the kind of thing people are super interested in, but if anyone were going to be, I figured it'd be here on a Sunday.

I got my Pro Form 995-SEL treadmill in a broken condition from one of the Habitat for Humanity REStores (which area great!) for $10. so I assumed it'd be on the worse end for this test.

Data were collected while not running (I imagine running would make it slightly worse), after the belt had come to speed, averaged over 30 seconds. My treadmill claims to max out at 10mph which probably explains the spike in error at the top end. All error was too slow.

Requested speed (mph)	min / mile requested	measured speed (mph)	measured min / mile	extra time / mile	absolute error %
3	20:00	2.86	20:59	0:59	4.67
4	15:00	3.86	15:33	0:33	3.50
5	12:00	4.8	12:30	0:30	4.00
6	10:00	5.72	10:29	0:29	4.67
7	8:34	6.76	8:53	0:19	3.43
8	7:30	7.83	7:40	0:10	2.13
9	6:40	8.76	6:51	0:11	2.67
10	6:00	9.3	6:27	0:27	7.00

 

[avondale]

On a long run earlier this week my brain decided to overthink speed error on my treadmill. So I did some rough video analysis (painted an approximately inch square white on the black belt, measured the belt length, had a program count frames between seeing the white square at the same spot) to calculate speed. This probably isn't the kind of thing people are super interested in, but if anyone were going to be, I figured it'd be here on a Sunday.

I got my Pro Form 995-SEL treadmill in a broken condition from one of the Habitat for Humanity REStores (which area great!) for $10. so I assumed it'd be on the worse end for this test.

Data were collected while not running (I imagine running would make it slightly worse), after the belt had come to speed, averaged over 30 seconds. My treadmill claims to max out at 10mph which probably explains the spike in error at the top end. All error was too slow.

Requested speed (mph)	min / mile requested	measured speed (mph)	measured min / mile	extra time / mile	absolute error %
3	20:00	2.86	20:59	0:59	4.67
4	15:00	3.86	15:33	0:33	3.50
5	12:00	4.8	12:30	0:30	4.00
6	10:00	5.72	10:29	0:29	4.67
7	8:34	6.76	8:53	0:19	3.43
8	7:30	7.83	7:40	0:10	2.13
9	6:40	8.76	6:51	0:11	2.67
10	6:00	9.3	6:27	0:27	7.00

View attachment 981055

I always feel like my treadmill must be a little fast because it seems so much harder! The geek in me has thought about doing something like this, but I have not.

 

[Naomeri]

On a long run earlier this week my brain decided to overthink speed error on my treadmill. So I did some rough video analysis (painted an approximately inch square white on the black belt, measured the belt length, had a program count frames between seeing the white square at the same spot) to calculate speed. This probably isn't the kind of thing people are super interested in, but if anyone were going to be, I figured it'd be here on a Sunday.

I got my Pro Form 995-SEL treadmill in a broken condition from one of the Habitat for Humanity REStores (which area great!) for $10. so I assumed it'd be on the worse end for this test.

Data were collected while not running (I imagine running would make it slightly worse), after the belt had come to speed, averaged over 30 seconds. My treadmill claims to max out at 10mph which probably explains the spike in error at the top end. All error was too slow.

Requested speed (mph)	min / mile requested	measured speed (mph)	measured min / mile	extra time / mile	absolute error %
3	20:00	2.86	20:59	0:59	4.67
4	15:00	3.86	15:33	0:33	3.50
5	12:00	4.8	12:30	0:30	4.00
6	10:00	5.72	10:29	0:29	4.67
7	8:34	6.76	8:53	0:19	3.43
8	7:30	7.83	7:40	0:10	2.13
9	6:40	8.76	6:51	0:11	2.67
10	6:00	9.3	6:27	0:27	7.00

View attachment 981055

My no-name treadmill from Amazon is absolutely terrible at getting the speed correct. Of course, it also can't keep time correctly, so I'm not terribly shocked (I start the treadmill, let it get up to speed, then hop on and start the workout on my watch, so the treadmill should always be about 30 seconds ahead of the workout time on my watch, but before the 10 minute mark, they're even, and it just gets worse from there)

 

[Herding_Cats]

QOTD:

Glasses while running (not prescription) that aren't sunglasses? Clear lenses? Yellow lenses? Do these have a useful purpose, or are they just to "look cool" and spend money on?

I saw some ultra runner's video talking about her yellow-lensed glasses being for "night vision" (aka low-light conditions) but also don't trust the info on face value because sponsors. I have been wondering about some non-sun-blocking glasses since the bugs seem to want to dive-bomb my face when I run in the evening lately.

 

[Professor_Cookie]

QOTD:

Glasses while running (not prescription) that aren't sunglasses? Clear lenses? Yellow lenses? Do these have a useful purpose, or are they just to "look cool" and spend money on?

I saw some ultra runner's video talking about her yellow-lensed glasses being for "night vision" (aka low-light conditions) but also don't trust the info on face value because sponsors. I have been wondering about some non-sun-blocking glasses since the bugs seem to want to dive-bomb my face when I run in the evening lately.

Attqotd: although not exactly the question, I won’t run with any glasses. I sweat too much for them to be useful at all

Edited for spelling

 

[Naomeri]

QOTD:

Glasses while running (not prescription) that aren't sunglasses? Clear lenses? Yellow lenses? Do these have a useful purpose, or are they just to "look cool" and spend money on?

I saw some ultra runner's video talking about her yellow-lensed glasses being for "night vision" (aka low-light conditions) but also don't trust the info on face value because sponsors. I have been wondering about some non-sun-blocking glasses since the bugs seem to want to dive-bomb my face when I run in the evening lately.

ATTQOTD: If you could find some comfortable safety glasses, I've found they work well for keeping bugs out of your eyes (at least when walking in the yard, I haven't tried running in them)

 

[jrsharp21]

There are some sun glasses on Amazon that have interchangeable lenses. Some of the models have clear lenses that come with the sunglasses. Some like these:

https://a.co/d/4RkDOgT

 

[jmasgat]

QOTD: I run with Rudy Project Rydon Slim (getting ready to order new ones) They have interchangeable lenses. I use a clear pair and a gray tinted (nonpolarized) pair. My old pair I use an RX insert, but my new one I’m going to try a photochromatic RX lens. To be clear—the base lenses aren’t RX.

 

[Zutroy]

QOTD:

Glasses while running (not prescription) that aren't sunglasses? Clear lenses? Yellow lenses? Do these have a useful purpose, or are they just to "look cool" and spend money on?

I saw some ultra runner's video talking about her yellow-lensed glasses being for "night vision" (aka low-light conditions) but also don't trust the info on face value because sponsors. I have been wondering about some non-sun-blocking glasses since the bugs seem to want to dive-bomb my face when I run in the evening lately.

My ski goggles have swappable lenses, and one of them is yellow for low visibility conditions. The yellow tint filters out blue light, which helps add contrast to snow which otherwise appears flattened by dim light. This is why a lot of old school fog lights on cars were yellow.

 

[Mr_Incr3dible]

QOTD:

Glasses while running (not prescription) that aren't sunglasses? Clear lenses? Yellow lenses? Do these have a useful purpose, or are they just to "look cool" and spend money on?

I saw some ultra runner's video talking about her yellow-lensed glasses being for "night vision" (aka low-light conditions) but also don't trust the info on face value because sponsors. I have been wondering about some non-sun-blocking glasses since the bugs seem to want to dive-bomb my face when I run in the evening lately.

I used to try biking on the greenway in the evenings, and had to quit doing so during summer due to all the bug strikes, so I hear you.
The Yellow lenses are employed for so-called "driving" glasses wherein the yellow is supposed to filter our certain blue spectrum and cut through haze. But likely not needed for a running pace....

I'm with the Prof in that I sweat so much that my glasses will quickly get fouled with droplets, so for my training runs, I leave the glasses at home. For the rD marathon, I wear my contacts and carry actual sunglasses for when the sun comes up, but they are cheap sunglasses and will get the sweat washed off them after I get back to the room.

I agree with going to the hardware store or Amazon and getting some cheap clear-lens safety glasses.

 

[Goofed98]

I have a pair of Oakleys that have the transition lenses. I run in the morning so they start off clear, but they provide protection as the sun comes up.

I sweat a ton, but I have to wear something for the exact reason you mentioned. Gnats are awful, and I'm sick of stopping and trying to pick them out of my eyes while I'm trying to run.

 

[avondale]

I have a pair of Oakleys that have the transition lenses. I run in the morning so they start off clear, but they provide protection as the sun comes up.

I sweat a ton, but I have to wear something for the exact reason you mentioned. Gnats are awful, and I'm sick of stopping and trying to pick them out of my eyes while I'm trying to run.

Just a comment on the transition lenses part... I once had sunglasses with transition lenses for trail running. I thought it would be useful for the going-into-and-out-of sunlight that happens a lot on wooded trails, but they didn't transition fast enough to be useful for this.

 

[The Expert]

Just a comment on the transition lenses part... I once had sunglasses with transition lenses for trail running. I thought it would be useful for the going-into-and-out-of sunlight that happens a lot on wooded trails, but they didn't transition fast enough to be useful for this.

Truth! While the tech has gotten dramatically better, it still takes a good 30 seconds for mine to change enough for me to see clearly. I've been kicking around trying clip-on shades for my frames, but that seems like a pain to stash and retrieve. I have seen some targeted ads for clip-on shades that attach to a hat or visor brim and flip up out of the way when not needed. I do usually wear a visor for longer distances if sun is forecasted, so I'm curious how well those actually work.

 

[Kerry1957]

I wear Maui Jim sunglasses with bronze lens. The tint is not what the cool kids wear on the beach but they give great contrast and depth perception on the trails where I run. Mine are also prescription.

 

[avondale]

Truth! While the tech has gotten dramatically better, it still takes a good 30 seconds for mine to change enough for me to see clearly. I've been kicking around trying clip-on shades for my frames, but that seems like a pain to stash and retrieve. I have seen some targeted ads for clip-on shades that attach to a hat or visor brim and flip up out of the way when not needed. I do usually wear a visor for longer distances if sun is forecasted, so I'm curious how well those actually work.

I like a visor very much for trail running where I'll be in "dappled" sunlight because of small breaks in the tree canopy. I will generally not wear sunglasses then (put them on top of visor).

 

[The Expert]

I like a visor very much for trail running where I'll be in "dappled" sunlight because of small breaks in the tree canopy. I will generally not wear sunglasses then (put them on top of visor).

Good idea. FWIW, this is the thing I keep seeing. Curious if anyone has actually tried this or similar?
https://underdogglasses.com/

 

[Herding_Cats]

Good idea. FWIW, this is the thing I keep seeing. Curious if anyone has actually tried this or similar?
https://underdogglasses.com/

I feel like that's a good concept, but possibly very limiting in how you position your hat. Some people barely have their hat on their head (think trucker hats) while others have their hat *all* the way on their head, but have the bill tipped up higher.