The Running Thread - 2016

"In the first half of your race, don't be an idiot. In the second half of your race, don't be a wimp."
LOVE this!!

ATTQODT: I've got nuthin': I never used to track distance, pace, time, anything - I just ran until I felt like I'd had enough, lol! I don't even have anything from the first time I did use an app to track: I had to delete and reinstall the app to fix a bunch of bugs and lost a few years of data. As you can tell, I'm not real attached to data. ;)
 
Love today's QOTD.

I don't remember my first run. I know I signed up for the inaugural DL 10k and then a local 5k that was about half way in between. Well, looking at RunKeeper, I have only one run before that 5k. This is that run.

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I don't know what plan I was using with this first run. It's obvious they are intervals though, but I'm not sure what kind. lol I thought it might be C25k, but when I look at that app, I didn't start that until AFTER my first 10k. In total, I only "ran" 5 times before my first 10k. Talk about a learning experience!

I just looked at another old app. I started with the Jeff Galloway, Easy 5k app.
 
AQOTD: I'm really glad you posted this question! I actually went back in my Facebook posts to find the actual date. That was the only way I was keeping track of it then. January 19, 2013 was my first day of training for my first race. I don't know what my time was, but my first race was March 16 and I finished in 35:48. It's still my PR. On paper it looks great, but I almost didn't finish because of how dumb I was. lol I took off way too fast and then I decided to double my run interval for the first time DURING THE RACE. I laugh at my dumb self. It was one of the biggest accomplishments of my life though, and something I never thought I'd be able to do.


Also, just wanted to say I always enjoy your encouraging comments @keahgirl8! I think many of us can relate to your sentiments on why we run!

Well thanks! I'm glad! I just feel like a lot of people who post here and other places are focusing on speed and that's great! I just want people to know that's not the only reason to run.
 
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DopeyBadger's QOTD was more related to the data of people's first runs but many people shared stories of how difficult it was to start and how hard it was not to give up. None of us are finished, hopefully, but at one point we all had to make the decision to start bettering ourselves, and it is a hard one. Whether it is getting over the embarrassment of running through a park for the first time or dealing with the lack of belief within ourselves, we all did it. I am glad to be a part of such an awesome group!
 

Well thanks! I'm glad! I just feel like a lot of people who post here and other places are focusing on speed and that's great! I just want people to know that's not the only reason to run.
I think that is because speed over a distance is the easiest way to track progress, so it makes sense. Also, some runners want to qualify for the Boston Marathon, which requires the runner to train for a particular speed. But I am with you - I train to effort or heart rate, not speed. I try not to even think about my pace when I run. My body has a natural speed - I try to get into that groove and go with it. :thumbsup2
 
Hello fellow researcher! :wave:

I use Excel to figure out training plans for myself and others. Here's a sample of how I do it.

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I use excel to track race performance.

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I also have used excel to determine carb needs for marathons, my current diet scheme, and tracking my HR vs performance to be able to figure out future performance. I've also broken down the Hansons pace table into a calculator based system that allows me to input anyone's 5K, 10K, HM, or M PRs to determine optimal training pacing based on their current fitness.

Needless to say, I got data!

I use Strava and Garmin to upload and review the data.

This is absolutely beautiful.

Holy guacamole I did it!! I caught up! I have been trying to catch up to the end since Tuesday!! Man ... taking a 4-day weekend is ROUGH around here. :goodvibes So here it goes!!

Me too! Last week of summer vacation for the kids this week and we have been trying to squeeze it all in before Monday. Now I am woefully behind here.

Holy July totals were abysmal, since that I was mostly still injured. I've been finding it really hard to get back into a regular running routine, but Dumbo is now 30 days away, so I know I need to try and get some conditioning back. I'm not nearly as excited about this race as I should be because of the injury. But the medal reveal helped a lot!! The good news is I did go out for my run yesterday and I had ZERO pain in my formerly injured leg. That was a great relief. My conditioning is definitely down as I couldn't even run a full lap at the track. I think I will definitely have to use my slower intervals to just get through Dumbo.

The thing about being injured though, is I seemed to have found some proper running form, and I think it's made me faster. I'm really focusing on keeping my stride short. It doesn't feel natural, but it feels easier. Wait. Does that make sense? It tires my legs even more quickly though. But that could also be the almost month I have take off.

I am constantly reminding myself to take a shorter stride and it does make a huge difference. I credit it with helping me through my last marathon training cycle (and race day) without getting injured. Of course then I got overconfident after the marathon and ended up with a stress fracture trying to get a good POT for Dumbo.
 
My two boys and I ran our "Superhero 2.5K" yesterday evening. It was a really cute race, but my 10 year old had a serious case of "tween attitude." I think part of the fact was that he was tired (we always stay up later during summer break) and had been playing with friends all day, but he had the worse attitude at the start of the race. He was not running, he was not walking fast, he was SAUNTERING! I decided to just let him and I ran with my 7 year old, but then we stopped and waited for him. Anyway, by the end he was excited to be there, but it just bugged me b/c I'm used to my kids being happy by whatever I'm excited about, and I am not ready for the jaded teen thing haha.

So, this was more of a parenting rant than a running one- sorry! I've just been so excited to share my love of running with my kids. This was the first time I felt like it didn't work out.
 
Because I had a $h!tty training run for Chicago today, and because OLYMPICS YAY!, here's another excerpt from "How Bad Do You Want It".

I like this one, because it reminds me that even when you think you have NOTHING left to give, even when you think you're at your lowest and everything is over - if the goal is something you want, something you need, something that you know is truly worth it ... that's when you find that last bit of everything buried down deep inside a place you never knew existed.

I present to you, the finish of the 2010 Chicago Marathon:

Nobody watching what was happening at that moment on the streets of Chicago could be faulted for chiseling Sammy’s epitaph so hastily. After all, Kenyans do not “run within themselves” or “run their own race” as runners from other places do. These concepts are foreign to them. When a Kenyan runner enters a race to win, he either leads or stays with whoever is leading as long as he possibly can. He will answer every surge, regardless of how close he is to his own limit already. Even if responding to an attack virtually guarantees he blows up and loses 5 minutes in the last 6 miles to finish eighth, he will do it. Because if you don’t win, you might as well be eighth.
An American runner conceding 20 meters to a surging leader with 3 miles left in a marathon might be seen as shrewdly preserving his last bit of strength. But Sammy was Kenyan, and his failed pursuit could mean only one thing: He had no strength left to preserve.
Sammy knew this better than anyone. As Kebede continued to glide away in front of him, the Olympic champion’s thoughts turned toward the man three steps behind. His goal abruptly shifted from winning the race (and a massive check) to holding on to second place and the still-substantial money that would come with that. But just then, Kebede’s tempo slackened a bit. If Sammy couldn’t sustain the ferocious pace of Kebede’s surge, neither could the Ethiopian himself. Heartened, Sammy searched inside himself and found the spirit to close the gap, and Lelisa regained contact as well. It was a three-man race again.
Not for long. Knowing the confidence Sammy derived from being in front, Kebede sped up, forcing his rival back into his shadow. Lelisa exited stage rear, permanently. An intense battle of wills was now waged between the old rivals. Sammy was determined to have the lead, if only by a centimeter. Kebede was determined not to allow Sammy to gain that centimeter. Sammy forced his way into a nominal lead nevertheless. It lasted all of 2 seconds before Kebede grabbed an equal share. For the next quarter-mile, the foes ran elbow to elbow, shoulders rolling and heads bobbing in perfect synchrony.
Both men were now visibly suffering, but the aura of control still hovered around the Ethiopian. As they came upon a timing mat at 40 km (24.8 miles), Kebede found himself a step ahead of Sammy, so he pressed. Within seconds, Sammy was once again 20 meters behind, in freefall. His hopes sank to a new low.
But then he saw something: Kebede kept looking back. Not once, not twice, but three times. Each time it was over the left shoulder. Sammy quietly drifted over to the right side of the road. When Kebede looked again, Sammy was no longer in sight.
Thinking he’d finally delivered the coup de grace, Kebede eased up a tiny bit.
Sammy did not. He crept up on his rival once more. With less than a mile to go, Kebede began to hear screaming from spectators on the right side of the road just after he’d passed them. He looked over his right shoulder—and there was Sammy. Kebede put his eyes back on the road ahead, lowered his chin, and prepared to break the Kenyan’s will. A moment later Sammy rocketed past his left shoulder.
The challenger reacted quickly, matching Sammy’s near sprint. For all its craftiness, Sammy’s bid had failed. He had no choice but to downshift. The moment he did so, Kebede counterattacked, demonstrating his own wiliness. Somehow the Ethiopian’s hobbled stride became beautiful again. He flew down Michigan Avenue with the confidence of a man who knew he had taken his opponent’s last best shot and survived it. Sammy was suddenly three strides back. This time—at last—it was over.
It was not over. With no juice left in his legs, Sammy drove his arms wildly as if using them to jumpstart his depleted lower extremities. It wasn’t pretty, but it served. He charged ahead. Feeling him, Kebede looked back and saw his thrice-dead enemy risen and coming for him yet again. Kebede got up on his toes just in time to keep Sammy a half-step behind him. For a fraction of a second, time seemed to stand still, with Sammy frozen just off Kebede’s shoulder. An unfocused look in Sammy’s eyes signaled an inner calculation. In the next instant, Sammy launched his body into a full sprint—the kind of absolute, nothing-held-back effort that no man can sustain longer than 10 or 12 seconds even on fresh legs. It was crazy. But Kebede did not think so. He sprinted too. The two men ran full-throttle, hip to hip, as though they were mere yards away from the finish line, when in fact they still had nearly half a mile of running ahead of them.
Sammy Wanjiru fans around the world screamed at their televisions and computer screens. Toni Reavis, one of the commentators providing TV coverage locally, had already shouted himself hoarse.
It could not last, and it did not. When the murder-suicide sprint petered out, Kebede was back in the lead. Despite Sammy’s almost unimaginable grit, it was clear at every step that Kebede was the stronger man. Kebede held pole position when the runners made the next-to-last turn of the race, a right bend onto Roosevelt Road.
There is only one hill in the Chicago Marathon and it falls right here, at the 26-mile mark. Before the race, Sammy and his coach (Federico Rosa) had decided that Sammy would make his decisive move at this point, if the opportunity existed. Rosa did not expect the opportunity to exist. In the privacy of his mind, he judged that even a third-place finish would be a terrific result (Sammy had been recovering from a major knee injury and a serious stomach ailment leading up to Chicago), all things considered.
Sammy trailed Kebede through the first 10 meters of the steeply pitched ascent. Taking advantage of his invisibility, he catapulted his ravaged body into one last sprint. He blasted past Kebede’s right side. Kebede fought back with everything he had, but he couldn’t match his rival’s power. With a terror that belied this power, Sammy stole three quick glances backward as he sped away from Kebede, who had already packed it in. Sammy broke the finish tape 19 seconds ahead of the shattered Ethiopian and collapsed to the pavement in the awkward pose of a battlefield casualty.
"It was the greatest surprise I have ever seen in my life,” said Federico Rosa to reporters later in the day.
 
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I think that is because speed over a distance is the easiest way to track progress, so it makes sense. Also, some runners want to qualify for the Boston Marathon, which requires the runner to train for a particular speed. But I am with you - I train to effort or heart rate, not speed. I try not to even think about my pace when I run. My body has a natural speed - I try to get into that groove and go with it. :thumbsup2

I get why people do. I just think that sometimes it can keep people who are slower from wanting to share. I just want mid-to-back of the packers to know there are lots of us out there!
 
ATTQOD: I started running back in 2008 to maintain my sanity since I had infant twin daughters and a son who wasn't even two! I used C25K to get started and a Nike+ footpod to attempt to track things. (This was before smart phones took over our world and I had no idea Garmin watches existed.) Most of my runs took place on the treadmill in our walk-in closet of our apartment during nap time!

I ran my first 5K race in October 2008 in 36:00, my fastest to date. I didn't run another 5K race until March of 2010. After that race I decided to run my local half-marathon the following year and have done so every year until this past one thanks to my stress fracture. Despite starting this journey eight years ago, I feel like I haven't run consistently until the last couple of years.

That might explain never achieving a PR at any distance. :rolleyes1 I might have PR'd my marathon time last January, but I decided riding Everest and taking all those character photos I skipped the first time around were more important.
 
I'm a race-wife this weekend, spectating my hubbies triathlon tomorrow. During lunch I look up and this goof is staring at me...cap on sideways, given me crazy eyes....IN A a PUBLIC restaurant. So yeah...good thing we did packet pickup. :)
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Hello!

I am a new runner, started C25K last week. I booked our first Disney cruise and my friend said I should do the Castaway Cay 5K. I have no experience running, so this is all new. Disney is my best motivator! So I am very excited. I was nervous to share this new idea with family, thought they would laugh! My DH decided to start running too!

I am trying to read back on the threads and also do searches. There is so much to learn. I was fitted locally and have proper shoes.

As I am beginning, is it correct to only run the three days a week, following the program? The other days, is it good to do non-running like elliptical, DVD workouts, and walking? I have the desire to do more. I also want to prevent injury.

Also, do some people use more than one app to track miles? For example, C25K tracks, but if I do a fourth run during a week, it has to erase one so the total miles are not accurate.

It is also confusing about developing the right run. I watched some videos about not heel striking. It should be midfoot. Then today I felt like I was reaching out with my toes. It felt unnatural.

Any insights and feedback are appreciated! Thank you!
 
As I am beginning, is it correct to only run the three days a week, following the program? The other days, is it good to do non-running like elliptical, DVD workouts, and walking? I have the desire to do more. I also want to prevent injury.

Also, do some people use more than one app to track miles? For example, C25K tracks, but if I do a fourth run during a week, it has to erase one so the total miles are not accurate.

It is also confusing about developing the right run. I watched some videos about not heel striking. It should be midfoot. Then today I felt like I was reaching out with my toes. It felt unnatural.

Any insights and feedback are appreciated! Thank you!

Congrats on starting to run!! That is oftentimes the hardest part.

Concerning training, I would stick with the C25k program as your first training cycle since you are just starting out. Then, based on how that goes, you can add days/mileage (very gradually) for your next training cycle. The worst thing is to start enjoying running and then immediately getting injured, so starting out slowly will help prevent this.

Many of us that have Garmin watches use Garmin Connect to track our miles. Strava is also a great website to track mileage, plus there is a DISboards Community on Strava.

On heal striking, I would start by going with what feels natural to you. But, if you really feel that you are reaching too far forward with your feet when you are running, then you may want to think about pushing back with each foot right as it hits the ground. This is a good mental way to prevent too extreme of a heal strike.
 
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