The quest for race weight

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About me: my name is Lynne and I'm a 32 yo triathlete. I've been messing around with competing in triathlons since 1997 and have finished Ironman USA Lake Placid twice prior to starting medical school. In hind sight, I'm not quite sure how I did it though. I had no training plan and just a general idea of what I needed to do in preparation to get through the race. In addition, I often didn't follow even that general idea very closely. I had done 2 IM and a stand alone marathon prior to the WDW marathon this year but my first training run over 14 miles ever was in prep for WDW 2006. I skipped alot of workouts, didn't run much, and swam even less.

So I decided to get serious about racing and therefore training this year. It started with putzing around and waiting about an hour too long to sign up for IM USA LP 2006. The race closed 12 hours after opening and I logged on to sign up about 13 hours after it opened. I had registered for the 2 I did in the past at about the 30 hour mark so I was surprised. After doing some thinking about it(considered spending the $1000 to get a community fund slot), I decided to register for IM Wisconsin Madison in early Sept($450 flushed) and then I registered for the FL Half Ironman in May because who could resist a trip to WDW($225 flushed). Both of these races are travel races which increases the investment beyond just the entry fees.

So I started to think that I should actually approach the upcoming race season with some serious training. Especially since it's a challenge to do a May half IM when you live in the North. I also have the same dream as every triathlete of qualifying to race IM Hawaii. We stayed by the swim start in Kona when my DGM took me to HI my senior year of high school and that's when the bug bit me even though I didn't start racing for another 6-7 yrs. I had already signed up for the WDW Marathon and picked out a training plan. Since the run has been my weakness in the past, I focused on it during the off season. I also got a coach and am getting training plans from her. More importantly, I'm actually following those plans. A couple of us rode outside yesterday and I was very happy with my fitness for January.
My race schedule for the upcoming year is:
Mid-winter 10 Mile Classic(run) Feb 5
Boston Run to Remember Half Marathon Mar 12
St Anthony's International distance triathlon FL Apr 30
Women Run the World 15 K WDW May 7
FL 70.3 Ironman May 21
Mooseman Half IM June 4
West Kennebunk Fire Olympic tri Jun 18
Musselman Half IM July ?
Chicago Distance Classic Half Marathon Aug 13
Timberman Half IM Aug ?
Skinnyman Sprint tri Labor Day wknd
IM Wisconsin Sept 10

distances for non-triathletes: sprint 800 meter swim/20 K bike/5 K run, olympic(international) 1.5 K S/40 K B/10 K R, half IM 1.2 mile S/ 56 mi B/ 13.1 mi R, IM 2.4 mi S/112 mi B/26.2 mi R

So why do I want/need a WISH journal? I'm not happy with my leaness. I currently weigh about 125 and am 5'4 so I'm not big but I think I could be leaner especially for hauling my body long distances. But I can't just willy nilly cut calories or it will affect my training and I'll lose muscle mass. So my first step will be logging what I AM eating and then use that to match up to how much I should be eating for my activity level.

So that is the end of my introduction. As always, comments are welcome.

today's exercise: 8.14 mi run
food:
2 packages Apples & Cinnamon Quaker oatmeal
14 oz Gu2O sports drink on run
1 medium/large apple cut up w/ peanut butter post-run
~0.3 lb precooked 90% lean beef hamburg on 2 slices of whole grain bread w/ salsa, cooked on hamilton beach grill
2.5 cups asian supreme salad blend
10 oz flavored spring water
Might get snack later while watching Cold Case.
 
Will the Boston Half go through Wellesley? If so i'll visit my sisters house to cheer as you go by.

No ideas for proper athlete weight but good luck!
 
Hi Lynn

Wow you're race schedule is aggressive! I still haven't worked mine out yet. I'm hoping to find a 5K for Feb so I can stand a chance of having a race very month of the year.

I'll be excited to follow your progress here on the journal board. I've been remiss at keeping mine up.

Sunny
 
Wish_I_lived_in_FL(don't we all:))- No, the course is quite different from the Boston Marathon. It starts at the World Trade Center Seaport, goes by the Govt Center, out along Memorial Dr to by Harvard and back, around Boston Common, and then returns to the WTC. It's all within Boston.

Sunny- You can race alot if you treat most of them like hard training days. I'm only tapering for the FL Half Ironman in May and Ironman Wisconsin in Sept. Ranking the races those 2 are A and AAA respectively, and everything else is a C race. If I have a good day, great, but those aren't the focus for the year. BTW, there is a 10 mile this Sunday in Cape Elizabeth. I have plenty of room and it would give you a Feb race.


Today's exercise: 4 m recovery run, 2450 yd swim

Food:
2 cups Lucky Charms w/ 1 cup vanilla soymilk
1 Amy's organic black bean burrito
1/2 cup non-fat cottage cheese w/ 1/2 cup fruit
1 dinner roll
1 1/2 cup barilla plus pasta w/ 0.25 lb 90% lean beef cooked on HB w/ spicy red pepper sauce and 1/4 cup part skim mozzeralla cheese(was too much but ate it anyway, shouldn't have cooked the dinner roll)

yesterday evening snack: 1/2 serving Edy's Dibs
 

Where are your fluids? Remember you need at least 64 oz of water per day. Have a water bottle handy at all times.
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Are you hydrating properly today?:drinking1:drinking1:drinking1
 
Yes, mom, I did better on the fluids today. I did drink a little yesterday, I just forgot to record it.

So today's exercise was my first session on my new Kurt Kinetic Road Machine trainer that I bought to replace the Cycle-ops mag unit that broke last week. All the reviews say it has great road feel and closely replicates the resistance of outdoor riding. Yeah, if you are riding into a 20 mph headwind or uphill. It kicked my butt trying to do the workout tonight. I don't heat the room the trainer is so it stays in the 50s. I had steam coming off my hands from sweating so much but I kept the intensity zone 2 aerobic like I was supposed to. I ended up doing my own thing with gearing rather than following the workout so I could match cadence and more importantly heart rate. I rode outside on Sat with 15-20 mph winds and I averaged a 2 mph faster pace w/ a slightly lower ave heart rate. No wonder people are stronger in the Spring after using a trainer like this all winter. Riding outdoors will seem positively easy in comparison. I did the Spinervals Aero Base Builder 2 DVD for 1 hr 26 min and did 20 miles.

Food:
2 packages maple and brown sugar oatmeal
1 serving Snyder's mini pretzels
2.5 servings Angel hair w/ herbs pasta
16 oz flavored water
1 monster size 'homemade' choco chip cookie
16 oz water
16 oz Gu2O energy drink
1/2 lb ham steak w/ a sweet potato drizzled w/ a little maple syrup
16 oz flavored water
 
today's exercise:
run- 15' w/u, 8 X 1' hill repeats w/ 2' recovery, 15' c/d
swim- endurance speed 2, 2100 yds

food:
2 cups special K w/ berries w/ 1 cup vanilla soymilk
16 oz water
PB and honey sandwich on oatmeal bread
1 serving snyder's mini pretzels
1 cup grapes
16 oz recoverite drink
wendy's chicken sandwich w/ tomato and lettuce
sour cream and chive baked potato
20 oz lite lemonade
jr frosty

Had lunch at 2 after working out so I wasn't ready for dinner prior to having to be at CSA(clinical skills assessment) at 5:30. Didn't take a snack either which was a huge mistake. I got so hungry my stomach got crampy and I got all flushed after seeing the 3rd 'patient.' I've never had that happen before, maybe a little nauseous but not truly sick feeling. I think I need to buy some portable snack type foods the next time I grocery shop to just have on hand in the future.
 
Today's exercise: Spinervals Timesaver technique session plus Spinervals Ultraconditioning Full Body workout- I was toasted by the end. Not sure if it was just that hard or some residual from yesterday's hill session. Next 2 days are relative rest with a swim tomorrow and an easy spin bike on Sat because the 10 mile race is Sunday.

Food:
yesterday evening snack- 1 cup of ice cream w/ peanut butter
breyer's light black cherry yogurt w/ 1 serving mini pretzels
16 oz water
PB and strawberry jam on oatmeal bread
1 serving mini pretzels
1 medium-large orange
16 oz water
20 oz Gu2O energy drink
90% lean .3 lb hamburg on oatmeal bread w/ salsa
2.5 cups asian surpreme salad
1 soft pretzel
16 oz flavored water
 
today's exercise: swim 2000 yds, cut short due to needing to get to class

food:
yesterday snack- 1/2 serving Edy's Dips
2 cups Special K w/ red berries w/ 1 cup soymilk
16 oz water
PB and honey on whole grain bread
1 serving mini pretzels
1/2 cup carrots
16 oz water
3/4 cup grapes
and... a whole Red Baron surpreme deep dish pizza

Beginnertriathlete.com has a nutrition log along with the training log that I started using today. It was a nutritional nightmare, mostly do to the pizza for dinner. I like pizza but I know there are healthier choices so I will be buying them from now on. It was 2200 calories and 800 from fat today, only 1100 from carbs, and 300 from protein. That's way too much fat and not enough protein. Of course, the first day I put the info into the nutrition log was the day I ate the bad, very bad pizza. It would have helped if I hadn't polished off all 3 420 calories servings but I was still hungry and the piece looked lonely. Really I didn't do too badly on total calories but I took a very deep breath when I saw the fat calorie count. Not good.
 
exercise: bike 19.27 miles, 1:11

food:
2 packets oatmeal
organic black bean and rice burrito
1/2 cup grapes
reese's peanut butter cups w/ caramel
spicy chicken wrap- rice paper, lettuce, carrots, onions, chicken breast
1 cup ice cream w/ peanut butter
 
WOW! Youre my new hero! I dont even understand half the stuff youre saying but I am impressed. Good Luck! (I think I got healthier just reading that)
 
Linda- thanks for stopping by. I would be happy:) to provide a glossary of anything. I may have a tendency to use jargon and not realize it.

Exercise: 25th Annual Mid-Winter 10-Mile Classic, plus w/u and c/d. OMG, it was so hilly. I totally wasn't expecting the hills and it was the first time I had ran that far since the marathon. The worst was the .7 mile hill that started just before the 9 mile mark. Not only was it reasonably long, it was late in the race. Not that we hadn't been going up and down since the start anyway. Weather wasn't too bad. Low 40s and it only rained lightly for 2 short periods.

Food:
Breyer's Light Strawberry cheesecake yogurt
Quaker Smores low fat granola bar
Gatorade- maybe 12 oz total
1/2 bagel
1/2 banana
Rueben sandwich
20 oz vitamin water- dragonfruit flavor
Eggplant parmigan(sp)
12 oz water
16 oz OJ
soft pretzel

Went grocery shopping tonight at the local Walmart Supercenter and bought a scale in addition to groceries. I bought a lot of food because I don't think I'm eating enough calories. I think the problem is that a lot of what I eat isn't very calorie dense so I'm getting full but not getting much calories. For example, a full pound bag of frozen mixed vegetables is right around 200 calories.
 
exercise: run 5.11 miles easy pace 'recovery' and swim 1800

food:
breyer's light blueberry yogurt
1 serving pretzels
1 peanut butter chocolate chunk granola bar
16 oz water
sandwich on whole grain w/ turkey breast, lettuce, mustard
1/2 cup carrots
1/2 serving pretzels
1 serving peach flavored applesauce
12 oz water
1 gel packet
8 oz water
eggplant parm leftover from last night
2 dinner rolls
12 oz water

so according to the nutrition stuff on beginnertriathlete, this is only about 1100 calories excluding the eggplant parm since I didn't cook it, I can't figure out the exact makeup. That's a problem since I burned roughly 1000 calories working out. I tried to eats lots but :confused3 My protein intake inspite of having the turkey sandwich and the yogurt was also lower than it ought to be. I normally have meat w/ dinner though and didn't the last 2 nights due to the eggplant parm. No wonder the scale said 120 when I weighed myself this morning. That means I down roughly 5-6 pounds in the last month. The recommendation for athletes in training is 1 pound every 2 weeks. Ooops.
 
exercise: spinervals Aero Base builder IV

food:
slimfast optima creamy milk chocolate shake
slimfast banana nut muffin bar
2 chocolate chip/white chocolate cookies- homemade
ground turkey pattie on whole grain bread w/ salsa
1/2 cup nonfat cottage cheese and 1/2 cup mixed berries
12 oz water
16 oz water
20 oz Gu2O
2 egg beaters, 1/4 cup cheese, 1/4 lb ham, 1/2 green pepper, 1/4 onion
16 oz flavored water

So I thought I ate well today until I looked at my totals in my nutrition log. 1200 cal but over 400 from protein so that was okay. I think I need to get some ice cream with peanut butter at this point. It's a ton of food that I ate though. This trying to increase my calories thing is hard. The highest meal calorie-wise was actually breakfast when I ate/drank the 2 Slimfast things. I bought them for portable, packaged food such as eating breakfast while driving to a preceptorship at 7 am.
 
I'm trying to understand what you're doing also. What is w/u or c/d? I'm trying to increase my training, but am nowhere near where you are. Have you lost any weight? I would like to lose 15 lbs.
 
Lynne,

I am so jealous at your prediciment!! I would love to HAVE to eat...funny how this all gets put in to perspective when one has to gain weight rather than loose it....and eating to live rather than living to eat!

Thing you can add to your diet to help and some calories and nutrition are nuts, bananas and avacado. Things are always good for me in nutrtion, but usually a little high in calories, so I enjoy them from time to time...but sparingly, as I want to loose weight, not gain!

Also have you though about going from f/f/ cottage cheese to full fat or 2%. Same thing with the yogurt? How about adding some cheese into your diet. That can also be healthful, but a real calorie hog.

As far as your meats go, filet mingon is a very lean (and expensive) cut of meat....try to go more strip and maybe even rib eye in the steak world. Much less lean, and very tasty too. Maybe go with a less lean burger as well...but I would still do ground chuck or sirloin over regular plain old hamburger. Maybe thow in a nioce pork roast here or there too....something different anyway.

I noticed that you have some slim fast..which is really geared more for weight loss...so how about a protein shake that is geared more nutrioinally for what you need....more protein and calories? Of course it needs to taste good too :lmao:

Peanut butter is always a good thing...other nut butters may be good too. Chocolate in the dark form is a great antioxidant....that is my story and I am sticking to it! Add a few good calories there too! Ice cream is always a favorite here as well. Maybe look for one with no added sugar, if you are trying to stay away from the "bad" things.

If I think of anything else, I will let you know. I hope this helps! Good luck with your training! See you in August in Chicago! I can't wait!!! :goodvibes
 
Hi Lynn

If I ate your menus and did your training I would seriously pass out. Of course I'm still 20-25 lbs above my ideal race weight so maybe that's part of it. Here are some of my suggestions to increase caloric intake without sacrificing good food choices:

instead of pretzels have almonds or walnuts
instead of special K have raisin bran or grapenuts
add more peanut butter or other nut butters.
Peanut butter is delicious in oat meal!

I would definitely make an effort to increae your protein intake, especially in the morning. An incredible protein shake is:

prot powder (I prefer whey, soy is ok, rice is horrible IMO)
soy milk
flax meal or flax oil
frozen berries

You can throw in an extra slim fast here or there. Protein bars are also a great easy thing to have right after a wo with your recovery drink. I love the Detour bars, the small ones have 170 cal, 15 g. whey protein, 6 g. fat

I know you don't want to substitute fatty meats to up your calories, but adding in more healthy fats is probably a good idea.

HTH
Sunny
 
Thanks for the ideas. I know that there are healthy fats that I can add in so I'll make some different choices next grocery trip. I did a little better today as I'm at a bit over 1700 so far.

Exercise: swim 2050 yds; run warm 15 min, hill repeats 8 X 1.30' recovery 3', cool down 10 min for a total of 5.16 mile

food:
yoplait whips orange creme
2 packages apple cinnamon oatmeal
16 oz water
whole grain mini crisps
digiorno microwave thin crispy crust surpreme pizza
16 oz flavored water
.33 lb 96% lean ground beef, 1/2 green pepper, 1/4 onion, .4 cup mozzerella cheese, 2 whole wheat wraps
12 oz water
 
Exercise: 4 mile 'recovery' run, Spinervals Ultraconditioning Full body workout(10.8 miles riding plus push ups, biceps curls/overhead presses, abs, back extensions, lunges)

Food:
meal #1
post selects maple pecan crunch Cal: 550 Carb: 100 Pro:10 Fat:15
Soy milk, fluid, calcium fortified Cal: 98 Carb: 8.38 Pro:7.35 Fat:3.97

Meal #2 - 12:30 PM
recoverite Cal: 166 Carb: 32.5 Pro:10 Fat:0

Meal #3 - 02:05 PM
Bread, oatmeal Cal: 145 Carb: 26.19 Pro:4.54 Fat:2.38
dole orange peach mango Cal: 120 Carb: 29 Pro:0 Fat:0
honey Cal: 60 Carb: 17 Pro:0 Fat:0
Peanut butter, smooth, vitamin and mineral fortified Cal: 189 Carb: 6 Pro:8.23 Fat:16.26
Snacks, pretzels, hard, plain, salted Cal: 162 Carb: 33.92 Pro:4.4 Fat:1.12
stonyfield farm fat free french vanilla yogurt Cal: 90 Carb: 18 Pro:4.5 Fat:0

Meal #4 - 07:30 PM
Drink mix, QUAKER OATS, GATORADE, orange flavor, powder Cal: 112 Carb: 27.06 Pro:0 Fat:0.35
pork boneless center cut loin chops Cal: 340 Carb: 0 Pro:40 Fat:18
Potatoes, Russet, flesh and skin, baked Cal: 290 Carb: 64.11 Pro:7.86 Fat:0.39

Today's grand total was 2300. :banana: The breakfast cereal added a significant chunk, as did drinking a smoothie concoction w/ lunch(that's what the dole juice and stonyfield yogurt were for), and then I polished off 1/2 lb of pork chop and a baked potato for dinner. I've noticed that the other type of bread I have is higher calorie than the oatmeal bread so when I take a turkey sandwich to eat after swimming tomorrow, I'll make it on the higher calorie bread.
 







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