The Poly2 Pricing Thread

[happythoughts & pixiedust]

If the economy is really strong, Disney could solve this problem by making Poly one association and aggressively ROFRing Poly contracts….but I don’t think they would take that risk in the current uncertain economy, with high interest rates, where they are not ROFRing anything.

Lets hope they do this! I own PVB right now, but don't really love staying there. If prices weren't so low I'd probably sell, but will hold on hoping that the Poly2 situation will boost Poly1 contract values.

My instinct says it will be the same association. Even if it is, I don't see the prices of resale jumping meaningfully while it's being sold direct. If it's a different association I fear Poly1 value will stagnate or decline - unless DVC does something crazy like putting a $3 per point tax on Poly2 like at VDH!

 

[Sandisw]

Lets hope they do this! I own PVB right now, but don't really love staying there. If prices weren't so low I'd probably sell, but will hold on hoping that the Poly2 situation will boost Poly1 contract values.

My instinct says it will be the same association. Even if it is, I don't see the prices of resale jumping meaningfully while it's being sold direct. If it's a different association I fear Poly1 value will stagnate or decline - unless DVC does something crazy like putting a $3 per point tax on Poly2 like at VDH!

The tax for VDH isn’t a DVC tax. It is required by the city of Anaheim. That doesn’t exist in FL at this time.

 

[happythoughts & pixiedust]

The tax for VDH isn’t a DVC tax. It is required by the city of Anaheim. That doesn’t exist in FL at this time.

Let's hope it never does!

 

[Roughians_satchel]

If it is the same association, would it make Poly the largest DVC in Florida in terms of number of units? What is the biggest now, Saratoga?

 

[Sandisw]

If it is the same association, would it make Poly the largest DVC in Florida in terms of number of units? What is the biggest now, Saratoga?

SSR is around 13 million...RIV has 6.7 million...so, it would not be the largest...but it certainly would be one of the higher totals for home resort units.

 

[Mai Ku Tiki]

It's like a hotel chain found the secluded island and put a hotel right next to village on the island. Worlds colliding.

I'll always miss the "immersive" goals of Walt's orig Bay Lake properties designs... GF came as a shock to many of us back then & now the lakefront is becoming a metropolis!

But it's exactly how Waikiki Beach in Honolulu & beachfronts on Maui & even Kaua'i (the Garden Island) in beautiful Hawai'i look now, so I guess Imagineers were ok with the idea... Towers adjacent to low-rise sections of tropical paradise hotel are common.
And DVC Aulani is a typical example of a large high-rise hotel that retains the Spirit of Aloha... so here's hoping... https://www.disneyaulani.com/

 

[jakecaputo]

I've been wondering, if it is indeed it's own association and self contained, why call it Polynessian anything? Why not just make it Reflections (or anything else)? Their innitial announcement was that they were "Expanding our Disney Vacation Club offerings at the Polynesian".

 

[Mai Ku Tiki]

The tax for VDH isn’t a DVC tax. It is required by the city of Anaheim. That doesn’t exist in FL at this time.

".... at this time." Let's hope it stays that way.

 

[CarolynFH]

I'll always miss the "immersive" goals of Walt's orig Bay Lake properties designs... GF came as a shock to many of us back then & now the lakefront is becoming a metropolis!

You might be interested in these articles:
https://allears.net/2019/10/17/the-unbuilt-hotels-of-walt-disney-world/
https://worldofwalt.com/the-original-plan-for-disney-world.html

I remember visiting in the mid-1970s, not knowing that Seven Seas Lagoon was man made and wondering how an area of flat ground with square corners came to be jutting out into the lake. When I next returned in the early 90s, there was GF!

 

[Royal Consort]

Just going to leave this here:

https://dvcnews.com/wdw-resorts/pol...polynesian-tower-will-be-separate-association

 

[RoseGold]

Just going to leave this here:

https://dvcnews.com/wdw-resorts/pol...polynesian-tower-will-be-separate-association

Wow, that's a nothing burger. That means nothing about the association. They have that boilerplate because they advertised the concept art, just like Reflections. Reflections will forever live in DVC contracts, to cover the mouse's rear end.

The Poly stuff been there for months in the contracts, because they advertised it. I bet the Trailers at Fort Wilderness are already in it now.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

Just going to leave this here:

https://dvcnews.com/wdw-resorts/pol...polynesian-tower-will-be-separate-association

I think it will be a separate association, but this article is stretching a little bit.

 

[BeachClub2014]

I think it will be a separate association, but this article is stretching a little bit.

I, too, think that it will be a separate association. This article interpreting the language in the POS carries about the same weight as other interpretations of previous statements, presentation slides, and other prognostications. Certainly fun to watch and discuss, and time will tell.

 

[Sandisw]

I think that the way that they have included the updated language does indeed support the new association. Why? Because they don't need to specifically mention the new tower if it is going to be a new phase of PVB...and they didn't update the documents when they added BPK to VGF because it was another phase.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

I think that the way that they have included the updated language does indeed support the new association. Why? Because they don't need to specifically mention the new tower if it is going to be a new phase of PVB...and they didn't update the documents when they added BPK to VGF because it was another phase.

Interesting! Has it ever been mentioned what type of rooms there will be? I’m curious if there will be many studios. I cant seem to find anything about the room types.

 

[Sandisw]

Interesting! Has it ever been mentioned what type of rooms there will be? I’m curious if there will be many studios. I cant seem to find anything about the room types.

No rooms have been listed yet....we are still waiting for all of that....my hope was that with the sale of VDH, there might be some new info coming out since they might want to use the decision about the tower...and FW cabins...as selling points.

I do think that the source of the article also leads credence to it....plus, given that VDH was restricted...and not announcement was ever done...just showed up in the POS...I think this change to the wording seems to have bee slipped in as well.

 

[hglenn]

I think that the way that they have included the updated language does indeed support the new association. Why? Because they don't need to specifically mention the new tower if it is going to be a new phase of PVB...and they didn't update the documents when they added BPK to VGF because it was another phase.

So do you think the omission of the FW cabins assumes that they will be part of a larger offering and Reflections will come to fruition?

 

[Sandisw]

So do you think the omission of the FW cabins assumes that they will be part of a larger offering and Reflections will come to fruition?

The announcement for the cabins had not yet happened when this was updated. But I do think the language to keep Reflection s could mean it comes back some day and that cabins could then be under the name Reflections so that it ends up being one resort.

 

[DonMacGregor]

The announcement for the cabins had not yet happened when this was updated. But I do think the language to keep Reflection s could mean it comes back some day and that cabins could then be under the name Reflections so that it ends up being one resort.

Yeah, I’m not buying the argument that they keep including Reflections for legal reasons, just because they showed an artist’s rendering of it at some point in the past.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

I really need to see more info on Poly2 to decide if I am going resale or new Poly2. We are studio people. I am ok with the years remaining on Poly1. However, buyers are holding on to their resale prices. Once the announcement is made ( that it will be a separate assoc), I look for Poly1 prices to drop. Many are just not budging on their price hedging it will all be part of the same association.