The plot thickens

Let’s hope so.

The thing that bothers me so much about them is they went on TV a week ago and straight up lied saying there was still money, and then cried, and thought what? Everyone would just forget? That kind of arrogance is just bonkers. There was zero reason to do that interview with Megan Kelly knowing the money was gone.
 
Go Fund Me has gotten totally out of hand. No matter what happens, the first thought seems to be - oh, let's set up a Go Fund Me to pay our bills!! People can be so gullible.

I'm all for helping legitimate situations/people. But the amounts I can give will be given on a local level where I can 'see' the situation and know what the money is truly going for.

I know someone personally that said they were going to set one up for a sudden illness (they didn't have to have the money) but thankfully rethought the situation and didn't.

Goldmine:
https://www.reddit.com/r/DontFundMe/
 
A brainless bimbo stupid enough to run out of gas is presuming to tell someone else how to manage money. :sad2:

The boyfriend admits to using $500 for gambling, but insists he paid it back. Yep, maybe one time he did that. But I have a feeling he took out additional "loans" from the fund and lost most of the remainder at the casinos.

Local TV news update at 5pm. The couple's lawyers say they're invoking their Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination. Reporters are outside their house taking videos of them smoking and looking skeevy. The BMW is parked there and there is a crude handwritten sign saying "Private Property No Trespassing" at the end of the driveway.
 
A brainless bimbo stupid enough to run out of gas is presuming to tell someone else how to manage money. :sad2:

Not only ran out of gas, she was driving at night on I-95 with no money, no credit card or AAA roadside emergency service. She's lucky she didn't get raped by some guys spotting her as a sitting duck on the side of the road, and rape her. I know someone in which that happened to on the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway. The guy raped her and then fixed her car. :sad2:

It's obvious she didn't have a lot of money. Her gratitude didn't last long, as the greed set in. :sad2:
 

A good Forensic Account will find the money. S/he'll go through those people's financial records with a fine tooth comb since they started the GFM. You can't hid money of that size.

They will be required to pay back whatever they "took", plus interest, at a minimum. Jail time is possible.
 
Not only ran out of gas, she was driving at night on I-95 with no money, no credit card or AAA roadside emergency service. She's lucky she didn't get raped by some guys spotting her as a sitting duck on the side of the road, and rape her. I know someone in which that happened to on the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway. The guy raped her and then fixed her car. :sad2:

It's obvious she didn't have a lot of money. Her gratitude didn't last long, as the greed set in. :sad2:

I believe she probably started with good intentions, thinking they'd probably raise several thousand dollars at the most. But when it reached 400k, she and the boyfriend probably thought, "Hey, why should all this money go to some worthless bum on the street? We deserve some compensation too" and then got carried away.
 
A good Forensic Account will find the money. S/he'll go through those people's financial records with a fine tooth comb since they started the GFM. You can't hid money of that size.

They will be required to pay back whatever they "took", plus interest, at a minimum. Jail time is possible.

I'm wondering if the DA or a prosecutor can make a class action law suit against them. They ended up defrauding several hundred people who were being led to believe the money would go to the homeless man.
 
I believe she probably started with good intentions, thinking they'd probably raise several thousand dollars at the most. But when it reached 400k, she and the boyfriend probably thought, "Hey, why should all this money go to some worthless bum on the street? We deserve some compensation too" and then got carried away.

:sad2:
 
I'm wondering if the DA or a prosecutor can make a class action law suit against them. They ended up defrauding several hundred people who were being led to believe the money would go to the homeless man.

I believe it was somewhere around 14,000 people who had donated.
 
Good grief these crowdfunding things never go well... aside from the fact that the companies take a 30% cut of the money...
Where did you pull this number from? I am not a fan of GoFundMe, however, I also am not a fan of people trashing companies with total bullpucky. It has never even been close to 30%.

GoFundMe actually doesn't take a dime now automatically. It is strictly a tipping situation with the donor deciding how much GoFundMe gets. They used to take 7.9% + 30 cents a donation, of which almost 3% went to the credit card processing companies. We have had people start GoFundMes for our non-profit, so have a ton of experience with this and know exactly how much money we received vs what was donated.

As of November last year, GoFundMe changed their model. You donate your amount and then they ask you how much of a tip you want to give GoFundMe that will be added to your donation. The standard is 10%, but there is a drop down box that you can change your tip amount.

For instance, if you donate $100, there will be a drop down box, with the preset amount set at 10%, for a tip to GoFundMe. If you do not change this, your card will be charged $110 with $100 going to the recipient and your $10 "tip" going to GoFundMe. However, since it is a dropdown box, you can choose a different amount higher or lower or you can add in a custom amount. I recently donated to friend's family whose wife's body was found several states away after a long search, and I set the "tip" to 5%. I wanted to set it to 0%, but if they start losing money because they have to pay the credit card companies for processing costs, then those losses will be passed on to people (at least some of them) that really need the money.


As for using money in a way that was not detailed in the request description is fraudulent and can lead to some serious consequences. That money was not the fundraiser's but the homeless man's as that who they were fundraising for. If they did not like the way he was handling the money, they should have set up a trust.

Last article I read was that about half the money was used for the guy and the other $200,000 is either missing, cannot be accounted for, or is still being held in the couple's private accounts. At the very least they should have set up a separate account to deposit all the money into.
 
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How soon before this couple starts another GoFundMe claiming they're being unfairly accused and unjustly criticized and need help with legal expenses?
 
I believe she probably started with good intentions, thinking they'd probably raise several thousand dollars at the most. But when it reached 400k, she and the boyfriend probably thought, "Hey, why should all this money go to some worthless bum on the street? We deserve some compensation too" and then got carried away.

This is my guess too- added to they initially thought they were looking after his best interests and when his interests diverged from what they thought was right they said screw it were keeping the money. I don’t just mean the drug use either. He apparently initially wanted to move to NC but instead they bought him a camper, they didn’t like that he gave money to his family, and that he paid older legal bills. Those might not be the “best” uses for the money but I think they got it into their heads that they got to decide how he spent the money. Then from there they got carried away.
 
How are they going to pay him back? They barely make $100k a year combined I believe. You can't get blood from a stone.
 
He apparently initially wanted to move to NC but instead they bought him a camper, they didn’t like that he gave money to his family, and that he paid older legal bills. Those might not be the “best” uses for the money but I think they got it into their heads that they got to decide how he spent the money. Then from there they got carried away.

They are ridiculous. :sad2: Being an addict and homeless, his family has probably bailed him out of problems many times. TWO of the Steps of the various 12-Step programs are: Be accountable and Make amends. Sounds like paying them back and paying an old layer bill IS being accountable and making amends.

And he may have wanted to move to NC because he's got family or friends who could help him remain clean & sober.

Someone who can't even afford gas or have money & phone in pocket while driving around, away from home, doesn't have the skills or means to be telling someone else what to do. SHE needed to clean up her own life. :rolleyes: And they are both hypocrites, considering they wee worried the homeless guy would piss away all the money AND THEY DID THE EXACT SAME THING. :sad2:
 
How are they going to pay him back? They barely make $100k a year combined I believe. You can't get blood from a stone.

Sentencing her to thousands of hours of community service and having her pick up road kill along I-95 where she ran out of gas, would be a somewhat suitable punishment, in my eyes. :thumbsup2
 
I believe she probably started with good intentions, thinking they'd probably raise several thousand dollars at the most. But when it reached 400k, she and the boyfriend probably thought, "Hey, why should all this money go to some worthless bum on the street? We deserve some compensation too" and then got carried away.

This is my guess too- added to they initially thought they were looking after his best interests and when his interests diverged from what they thought was right they said screw it were keeping the money. I don’t just mean the drug use either. He apparently initially wanted to move to NC but instead they bought him a camper, they didn’t like that he gave money to his family, and that he paid older legal bills. Those might not be the “best” uses for the money but I think they got it into their heads that they got to decide how he spent the money. Then from there they got carried away.

I never got the warm and fuzzies from them when I first heard about it. Why do they care what he spends the money on? They fundraised for him not for themselves. I get that people don't want money to be used in bad ways but it seems like a pretty poor and crappy thing to think you can control what money that is given by other people for another adult like this. It reeks to me like taking advantage of someone. If they really cared about him spending money on things like drugs then maybe it would have been sending the money to a drug treatment center for him to go, maybe it would have been money used for therapy/working on helping him through his addiction. But no they went and spent the money where they wanted to. That to me makes it seem so much more like they didn't have good intentions from the beginning.

I'd also like to add they didn't buy him a camper. They used money from the fundraiser. It wasn't money out of their pockets that was used to buy the camper. They also put the camper on their property (seems a bit strange honestly) and then decided they wanted him off their property and kicked him out of the camper that was again bought with money from the fundraiser for him.

I just don't have any sympathy for this couple because of their actions and I seriously question whether they had good intentions to begin with.
 
How are they going to pay him back? They barely make $100k a year combined I believe. You can't get blood from a stone.
I looked up and in PA they can garnish wages in court-ordered restitution in criminal matters. That may apply to this situation. Bad news is they can only garnish 25% of their disposable income if it applies so it's not like the money would be handed over in a lump sum it would take a while. I guess it could come to that if criminal charges were filed and they were convicted of it.
 
I'd also like to add they didn't buy him a camper. They used money from the fundraiser. It wasn't money out of their pockets that was used to buy the camper. They also put the camper on their property (seems a bit strange honestly) and then decided they wanted him off their property and kicked him out of the camper that was again bought with money from the fundraiser for him.

I read the title to the camper is in THEIR name - not his. So they own the camper.

I hope the judge forces them to turn the ownership of the camper and the BMW over to him. He should be able to move the camper to NC if he wants and to get out of Dodge and start anew.
 
I read the title to the camper is in THEIR name - not his. So they own the camper.

I hope the judge forces them to turn the ownership of the camper and the BMW over to him. He should be able to move the camper to NC if he wants and to get out of Dodge and start anew.
I didn't say anything about the title nor about who owned it :confused3

The previous poster said they bought him a camper. They paid for it with the money out of the fundraiser or so the article states rather than their own money. That fundraiser money was for him not them. That was what my comment was about.

ETA as phone died: I do agree with your comment about hoping the judge turns over those items to him.
 
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