The Nightmare Before Christmas HM - permanent?

[Nautilus]

But really, 3-yr olds and grannies? I won't let my daughter on that ride until she's at least 6 or 7...I could just imagine the nightmares!

Well, some parents arent exactly going on the ride for there kid. Most likely they are doing it for themself, and poor little Jr. gets taken by the arm into Haunted Mansion, Indiana Jones, and Tower Of Terror without a second thought.

And all kids are different. Some kids will ride anything. Some will be too afraid.

 

[Philadisney]

hi there - can someone please explain to me what kinds of additions are made to make HM NBC-themed? i doubt i will ever get to see it myself since i live closer to FL and rarely make it out to DL. I'd appreciate it if someone could tell me what changes are made to the ride since i'm having trouble imagining it myself. thank you!!!

 

[wackywexler]

Love the overlay and love that it is short term. I think it is very appropriate for the holidays and will attract those interested whats new at DL. We live 20 minutes from DL and have annual passes. For us it is a welcome change to have the ride be different with new things to discover. I am not a Tim Burton fan and I have not, and probably will not, see NBC, but I still enjoy the overlay. My DD 10 has seen the movie once at a friends house and really loves the overlay. She is also wild about the merchandise available in New Orleans Square but I just can't see her walking around with a skull (Jack Skellington) on her chest just yet! lol . On the flip side my DS8 does not like HM regular or with an overlay. The people screaming in the elevator really gets to him.

 

[atakaratemom]

Nightmare Before Christmas is actually a disturbing movie to me and is limited mostly to a cult following...it is not part of the population psyche' unlike Snow White, Pinocchio, etc.

I disagree. I love Disney movies, but there are elements of Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Pinnochio and others with evil villains that seem more scary and disturbing than anything in Nightmare Before Christmas.

 

[Nautilus]

I disagree. I love Disney movies, but their are elements of Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Pinnochio and others with evil villains that seem more scary and disturbing than anything in Nightmare Before Christmas.

Yeah, the only thing that could be considered disturbing slightly is when the children are getting the gifts. Jack and everyone in Halloweentown have nothing but good intentions, but they just cant grasp Christmas correctly.

It happens to be one of my favorite movies, and Im not one of those teen goth kids, heck, most of those kids have never even seen the movie. They just buy the products because Hot Topic has them. Its too bad.

 

[MateasMom]

Oh I LOVE Nightmare before Christmas and I LOVE the HM holiday do over! It's my favorite 'event' at DL! My kids also love Nightmare before Christmas (AND Haunted Mansion). I'm not even remotely goth either BTW....just your average 20 something mommy! My kids have been going on Haunted Mansion since they were babies. That and POTC were the 'get the baby/toddler to sleep' ride They didn't think it was scary back then, just a little boring and long Now (they're 4 and 6) it's one of the first rides they ask to go on (first being Soarin'). They're afraid of Rodger Rabit, of Snow White and Pinochio (however you spell it!) but aren't the least bit afraid of Haunted Mansion, ESPECIALLY with the Nightmare before Christmas theme.

 

[xmelissax]

xmelissax, actually not...Walt built Disneyland specifically for families (albeit, the 1950's ideal thereof) to enjoy together. If you read anything about his ideas for DL, WDW, and his driving purpose behind their creation, it was not that families would enter the gates and then disperse in different directions for the day and then meet up again at night. That was actually what was happening when he was growing up - the family would go to an amusement park, and the dad would run off to one corner and play cards with the other dads while the moms with the younger children would ride certain rides and the older children would run around with their own fun. It truly appalled him and he deliberately built a new type of theme park to combat that segmentation.

Yes, it might be more "ideal" than reality, but it is well documented. I'm sure Walt would be happy that everyone can enjoy DL individually, or in like groups, but that was not why he designed DL the way he did.

Maybe I just timed it wrong, but the hour I watched the line last Saturday there were few if any families enjoying the ride together.

-R

P.S., We'll save the goth discussion for another thread...not the direction I was thinking about going here.

I don't know about you, but last time I checked all those people you seemed to find as undesirable were also members of families.You also never know who is and who is not a family. Not every family has 2 parents, and 2.5 kids, so you never know if those people you are worried about the ride attracting are families or not. Regardless of Walt's original vision, the fact is that all different types of people pay their money to come enjoy Disnyeland now and there is nothing wrong with that. They may have long hair, wear all black, and be covered in tattoos but they are still just as welcome as you,so perhaps it would serve you better to be a bit less judgemental.

 

[Lord Fantasius]

I love Disney movies, but their are elements of Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Pinnochio and others with evil villains that seem more scary and disturbing than anything in Nightmare Before Christmas.

Definitely would agree here in one sense, Sleeping Beauty and Mr. Toad's ride scare me more than HM, with or without the overlay, but HM still is spookier in the other sense.

Umm...I'm wondering what I would have thought of it if I hadn't seen the movie. I did admit it was well done...however, I guess my biggest reservation is with the depiction of a skeletal Santa Clause (or Sandy Claws). A little disrespectful in my book, but I guess He's merely a pop icon these days.

xmelissax - I'm sorry if I offended you; if you read my post, I made no judgment call one way or the other, just merely making a statement of observation. What DL and WDW has become is beyond what Walt conceived...which, in some sense is good, and in other sense, bad. I like simple things that I can understand and relate to...in the case of Disney, I understand fantasy and the fantastic, the need for imagination, the place of mystery and horror, but dementia (the basis of Nightmare Before Christmas)...that's a different story, it is too uncomfortable for me to enjoy even in a controlled setting.

 

[nick262]

But really, 3-yr olds and grannies? I won't let my daughter on that ride until she's at least 6 or 7...I could just imagine the nightmares!

-R

I just took my 2yr old on it this past Sunday. I have seen the movie but my DH has not, but we both love the holiday overlay. I am not into goth either and am in my 30's, but I have never seen an mostly goth people ride this ride, some but not an huge amount by any means (My family goes 2-3 per month). I really do not see where you get dementia out of this movie. It is about someone (jack) who wants to be a giver to all, but just goes about it in all the wrong ways. What is demented about that?

 

[MateasMom]

I actually thought the storyline was refreshing. Exactly what pp said. A misunderstood person that doesn't quite look conventional, doesn't quite do conventional things, and how misunderstandings and assumptions almost ruin Christmas. Much better then the typical girl must be super cute and gets saved by some royal guy.

And who exactly is Sandy Claws disrespecting? It's not like he's pretending to be Jesus Christ. Santa Claus is a made up tale. What we know of Santa was created by department stores (Montgomery Ward?) in an effort to lure customers IIRC. I'm not sure that he's held up on a pedistal as something or someone not to be made light of. And, I don't think Sandy Claws disrespects Santa at all anyways.

 

[Vanvmom]

Definitely would agree here in one sense, Sleeping Beauty and Mr. Toad's ride scare me more than HM, with or without the overlay.

I agree! My sons did not like Toad's Ride at all. They love the holiday overlay of HM better than the regular theme (although they did not really care for the movie's style). The holiday theme is much less scary.

 

[Lord Fantasius]

And who exactly is Sandy Claws disrespecting? It's not like he's pretending to be Jesus Christ. Santa Claus is a made up tale. What we know of Santa was created by department stores (Montgomery Ward?) in an effort to lure customers IIRC. I'm not sure that he's held up on a pedistal as something or someone not to be made light of. And, I don't think Sandy Claws disrespects Santa at all anyways.

We'll just disagree here...

-R

 

[Michelle2]

We also love the Nightmare overlay. Our kids found it much less scary than the original HM, including me!

 

[aussiemum]

Lord Fantasius ,

My kids were 2 and 9. This time they will be 4 and 11 and they can't wait to see 'Santa Jack'.

 

[LucyKate]

I think I'm only now just getting where Lord Fantasius is coming from here - some mistaken view that the HM makeover was done to appease goths and that there is somehting blasphemous about this.

I'm guessing here LF has never seen the movie - if you do I think you just might find it actually has a very good message about Christmas. It is a very positive reaffirming movie about Christmas.

If the aim of the makeover was to appease goths it was a big failure - never saw a single goth in the five days we were in the park, but I did see lots of families on it.

My daughter was scared by Snow White and Splash Mountain and a little bit by Pirates but not remotely by HM.

 

[Lord Fantasius]

I think I'm only now just getting where Lord Fantasius is coming from here - some mistaken view that the HM makeover was done to appease goths and that there is somehting blasphemous about this.

I'm guessing here LF has never seen the movie - if you do I think you just might find it actually has a very good message about Christmas. It is a very positive reaffirming movie about Christmas.

You all are really not good at this, are you...

I've seen the movie and that's part of the problem...kind of struck me between demented and psychotic...can't quite put my finger on it though. But for Disney, Inc. to overlay a classic with the themes and characters from Nightmare Before Christmas yes, did seem irreverent. I only mentioned goths once...so why is everyone so focused on that issue...sheesh

Oh well, back to your regularly-scheduled assumptions...

-R