The Conservative Thread: Back to Basics. Pass the Lasagna and Have a Flower!!

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The teenagers around here (and Tink, apparently) do that all the time in the winter. It makes me cold just to look at them. We don't get sub-freezing weather here for any length of time, but IMO 40* and raining is NOT shorts weather!

:rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2: Mama always said this thread was like a box of choc'lates.
No, that was AK. Here I don't do that; too wet, much too wet. :guilty:

We're Conservatives.. not dead! :)
;) Precisely. While edible underwear isn't synonymous with having children, it is synonymous with how you get them. :lmao: And I do have a child....
and I'll stop here. :cool2:

:santa: Watching Polar Express. And DH lit a gingerbread candle. It's not even Thanksgiving yet. :rotfl:
 
No, that was AK. Here I don't do that; too wet, much too wet. :guilty:


;) Precisely. While edible underwear isn't synonymous with having children, it is synonymous with how you get them. :lmao: And I do have a child....
and I'll stop here
. :cool2:

:santa: Watching Polar Express. And DH lit a gingerbread candle. It's not even Thanksgiving yet. :rotfl:



OMG Now ya tell me:idea:

That's why I'm not pregnant yet. Looks like those will be on next month's shopping list if we crap out this month.
 
loco, sometimes I guess you just have to realize it's not worth it. I posted quite a bit on other threads in the CB, but I have pretty much stopped that now. When I was out and out called a liar, told that I was lying about what my own opinion was (ah, mind reading must be becoming a science these days!), I realized I'd had enough and wasn't going to spend my precious free time dealing with that. Beyond that, the CB, to me, is full of threads that just keep going in circles with the same groups of people having the same "debates" in 50 different ways. I personally just don't bother wasting my time anymore getting into needless never ending discussions. We certainly don't see the world the same way right now, and it's possible we never will. The thing I love about my liberal friends in real life is they will get into an actual discussion with you and not just talking points or repeating the same things. So when I want to debate someone, I go to them because I know it'll be a productive discussion. The same is not always guaranteed on the CB because too often personal attacks come into it, insults, etc. from either side, to be fair.

On that note, back to my spreadsheet which I still haven't started... had to run to the store.
 

That's it. I'm done with the rest of the CB. Every time I post something — anything — some deranged OS comes along (obviously harboring some deep-seated grievance because I didn't support Obama) and replies with some hostile non-sequitur personal attack. Every. Single. Time. It's absurd. I had a friend in college who joined a cult. It's just like talking to her was back then. I mean I know we all talk about the Kool-aid drinkers and all, but some of these folks are in serious delusional fanatic territory. If I post out there again, someone cyber-slap me.

You noticed that too? :headache:
 
OMG Now ya tell me:idea:

That's why I'm not pregnant yet. Looks like those will be on next month's shopping list if we crap out this month.
If you crap out let me know. I can point you towards a book that helped us conceive both times (lost first one at 10wks). :goodvibes
 
who here misses the kitchen kabaret at epcot?

ME!!!!:wave2:

just wondering 'cause i just heard "veggie veggie fruit fruit" on subsonic...
 
who here misses the kitchen kabaret at epcot?

ME!!!!:wave2:

just wondering 'cause i just heard "veggie veggie fruit fruit" on subsonic...

Ya know, I never saw that, but that song is on one of the WDW CDs I own, and every time I hear it, I start bobbing my head along to it. :lmao:

Distracting though; I messed up my reservations search when that was on! :badpc:
 
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I'm just rather upset now because for my tentative dates, it looks like the views at various resorts that cost less are all gone. This is exactly why I told my family they needed to decide something quickly! :headache:

ugh. it is so frustrating sometimes. when i was really scouring for rates/dates last year, i was able to click on a "save this offer" link. i just looked but can't find that anywhere on the window now.

update: i see now that if you are booking at regular rates, you can save the offer, but not on the special rates.
 
ugh. it is so frustrating sometimes. when i was really scouring for rates/dates last year, i was able to click on a "save this offer" link. i just looked but can't find that anywhere on the window now.

The problem for me is my family does not understand how much work goes into planning a trip there. That's because I always do all of the planning. They make the actual reservations since they pay for the trips, but I do all of the research, I find out all of the prices, the dates, etc. for the resorts; I figure out where and when to eat, and how the ADRs will fit with the park hours/EMHs/evening shows (ala Fantasmic!) mess. You have to plan far ahead in order to get cheaper rooms, and a lot of times you have to just to get a room (not to mention ADRs).
 
Hey SD, I got an email from Disney with an offer code in it for WDW. We're not going to WDW after all (don't cry for us, just switched to our own coast to save money and air time; going to Disneyland again instead). I don't know if it's better than what you are looking at but if you'd like to give it a look, PM me your email and I'll forward it to you.
 
The problem for me is my family does not understand how much work goes into planning a trip there. That's because I always do all of the planning. They make the actual reservations since they pay for the trips, but I do all of the research, I find out all of the prices, the dates, etc. for the resorts; I figure out where and when to eat, and how the ADRs will fit with the park hours/EMHs/evening shows (ala Fantasmic!) mess. You have to plan far ahead in order to get cheaper rooms, and a lot of times you have to just to get a room (not to mention ADRs).

no kiddin'. a year ago when i went with a boyfriend, i planned for MONTHS and had the old spreadsheet going with all the relevant information, dining resies, etc. he thought it was lunacy. i tried to explain that with only a week for his first visit, it was CRUCIAL WE USE THE TIME WISELY!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
 
Hey SD, I got an email from Disney with an offer code in it for WDW. We're not going to WDW after all (don't cry for us, just switched to our own coast to save money and air time; going to Disneyland again instead). I don't know if it's better than what you are looking at but if you'd like to give it a look, PM me your email and I'll forward it to you.

I'm jealous. I love DLR. We have been thinking about taking a (non Disney) cruise this Spring to save money as were only a half hour drive from the cruise terminal in Galveston, but lately I've been thinking about doing a DLR trip instead. It would cost a little more but would be so worth it.
 
Glad to see that the topic of conversation has moved on from underwear to hotels... I was leery of coming in here for awhile today. :lmao:

Speaking of hotels.. I just checked the Disney website (and Travelocity) and my hotel is booked solid for my week. Then again, it’s Christmas week .. but still :scared1:

(I think that the reality of just how busy it’s going to be is beginning to sink in)
 
Hey SD, I got an email from Disney with an offer code in it for WDW. We're not going to WDW after all (don't cry for us, just switched to our own coast to save money and air time; going to Disneyland again instead). I don't know if it's better than what you are looking at but if you'd like to give it a look, PM me your email and I'll forward it to you.

Thanks, Michelle. That's very kind of you. Unfortunately I doubt the code/offer is transferable. If the email doesn't say that though, sure, send it my way and I'll give it a looksee. I'll PM you with my addy later.

no kiddin'. a year ago when i went with a boyfriend, i planned for MONTHS and had the old spreadsheet going with all the relevant information, dining resies, etc. he thought it was lunacy. i tried to explain that with only a week for his first visit, it was CRUCIAL WE USE THE TIME WISELY!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

As Samantha Brown said on one of her shows, Disney is not the place to go without a plan. I miss the trips where you could just walk up to almost any restaurant and be seated within an hour. Oh how I miss that flexibility. But things change, and that's not the reality anymore. Now, you have to plan. I'm an OCD planner myself :rotfl2: , so pushing and pulling with family members who hate planning and/or see no need for it (although they do understand the ADR aspect because one of them hates not eating "regular" meals on vacation :laughing: ) is almost enough to put me in the nearest funny farm! :crazy:
 
Thanks! I've been lurking for a couple of months now, and I can't tell you how many times I've stared at the keyboard wanting to jump in.

Thanks for making me feel welcome!

Welcome! :wave:

Ooooo....I'd like to be a fly on the wall in THAT white house. popcorn::

Me too...should be quite an interesting four years...:rotfl2:

I am amazed at how many Clintonistas are joining up for this administration. I knew there would be some, but this is becoming quite a roster!

Yeah...I've been noticing that too.

Sad isn't it? The same thing goes with the first woman anything. If she's not a liberal feminist - ie, supports abortion wholeheartedly - then it means nothing to them. :sad2:

That is so true...


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I'm that way. I can wear shorts as long as my arms and chest are warm. When I lived in Alaska from Sept '99 to Feb 2000, I went outside in shorts all the time. You get used to it.

It's cold up here...it was -2 this morning...I'm wearing my Uggs everywhere...and we got a polar fleece coat for Jack...I'll have to post a picture...

That's it. I'm done with the rest of the CB. Every time I post something — anything — some deranged OS comes along (obviously harboring some deep-seated grievance because I didn't support Obama) and replies with some hostile non-sequitur personal attack. Every. Single. Time.

:grouphug:

Gotta' run out the door again...driving kids...:drive:
 
Here is Dick Morris's take on H wanting HC as Attorney General:

HILLARY APPOINTMENT: THE AUDACITY OF BROKEN PROMISES

By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN

Published on DickMorris.com on November 18, 2008


If Barack Obama appoints Hillary Clinton as his Secretary of State, it will send a cynical message to his supporters: that change is something they can still only hope for. Because if Obama relies on this unqualified Washington insider to fill one of the most important positions in his 'outsider' administration, it will represent neither change nor hope, just more of the same.

Instead of "Yes, We Can," Obama will be touting loud and clear: "No, we won't."

A Clinton appointment would replace the audacity of hope with the audacity to shamelessly break campaign promises.

As a president without any experience in foreign affairs himself, Obama needs a seasoned partner at State. And Hillary Clinton is definitely not that person - neither in substance nor in style.

Hillary Clinton is the epitome of the entrenched Washington political establishment that Obama so effectively challenged and so thoroughly disdained. That's what makes her consideration so puzzling. But it's not just her old politics that should immediately disqualify her. With her out-of-control husband freelancing with foreign governments to raise money for his cronies, his foundation, and for speaking fees for himself, the potential for serious conflicts of interest are incalculable and dangerous. We don't know precisely what the former president has been up to; it's all secret. For more than eight years, Bill Clinton has adamantly refused to disclose the fat-cat donors to his library and foundation. Because of a computer error in the Clinton Library, the New York Sun inadvertently learned that Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Dubai, the U.A.E, Kuwait, and Morocco have chipped in. But what about other governments or businesses?


Can we actually afford to have a Secretary of State whose husband secretly raises money from foreign governments who have strong interests in U.S. foreign policy decisions? That's what we'd have with the Clintons.

For Obama to choose Hillary would mean that he was ignoring the long overdue and strict ethical and professional standards that he claims will be imposed on all appointees.

Or is Hillary going to have a separate standard of her own? A substantially lower one? Already, it appears that the Obama rule that "if you leak, you're gone" doesn't apply to Hillary.

But does anyone really believe that Obama would appoint any other person to State whose spouse had publicly endorsed a controversial foreign leader for a U.N. position that the State Department opposed? That's just what Clinton did in the corrupt former Soviet state of Kazakhstan, where human rights violations are rampant. Clinton used his prestige as former President to set up a dinner meeting for Canadian billionaire Frank Giustra with President Nursultan Nazarbayev, known best for eliminating all opposition in his country. Giustra wanted to buy some of the country's valuable uranium rights. Although he had no experience in this region, two days later, Giustra was awarded a contract which the New York Times termed a "monster deal...[that] suddenly transformed the company into the world's largest uranium producers." During his very short visit, Clinton publicly promoted Nazarbayev for chairman of a U.N. committee - a position that the United States government, and his own wife, had vehemently opposed. That didn't stop Bill. And, it worked out well for him and his pal. After the deal was closed, Clinton's foundation received a $31 million contribution from Giustra and a pledge of another $100 million and half of all of his future mining profits. That's not peanuts. It was a win-win situation for everyone - except for the United States government's interests.

Question: Did Kazakhstan also contribute to Clinton's foundation? And, if so, what did they want in return for it?

Because there's more: While Hillary was a presidential candidate, Giustra arranged a meeting with a Kazakhstan government representative and Clinton at his Chappaqua home to discuss the government's plan to buy a 10% stake in Westinghouse. Now why would they want to talk to Bill about that? Did they feel that they had a special entrée to the former president? Sounds like it. Clinton initially denied any such meeting, but later admitted it after the government representative, who had coincidentally also handled the uranium matter, produced a photo clearly showing him at the Clinton home with the former president.

Is this what the husband of a Secretary of State - or even a Senator - should be doing? Clandestinely meeting with representatives of oppressive regimes? Was he advising them about how to finesse their investment? The public needs to know what this was all about.

Because one thing is for sure: Bill definitely won't change and there's no telling who else he's been hitting up for money.

Remember his partnership with the Emir of Dubai and his other billionaire buddy Ron Burkle? He's already made more than $10 million on that deal and was secretly advising Dubai on how to get the Port Deal approved in Washington while Hillary was publicly opposing it. He helped the anti-Semitic Dubai create a public relations image as a modern Arab state while it kidnapped and enslaved three and four year old male children to use as camel jockeys.

He's lobbied for other favorite projects, too. After he was paid $800,000 for speeches by Colombian Free Trade interests, the former president picked up the phone and called several democratic congressmen to advocate passage of the treaty. He's never registered as a lobbyist or a foreign agent, but that hasn't stopped him. Nor will it in the future.

The potential problems are obvious.

The husband of a Secretary of State cannot be in business with the head of a foreign country with growing interests in the U.S.

Instead of a rogue co-president, Clinton would be a rogue co-Secretary of State. And that's something Obama can't afford.

But aside from being the poster child of the status quo, Hillary is simply not qualified for the job. She has no foreign policy credentials, other than visiting eighty countries as First Lady, where she usually toured schools and hospitals with no diplomatic missions. And, of course, we know her assertions about dodging sniper fire in Bosnia and playing an important role in the Irish Peace Process were just fantasies.

Some commentators suggest that the Secretary of State position has become a "woman's" seat and that Hillary is the logical next Secretary. But the previous women, Albright and Rice, were not ingénues who needed on the job training. Both were experienced diplomats with PhD's in their fields. Hillary had none of this background. She didn't even have national security clearance at the Clinton White House. Obama needs more than this.

Finally, the colossal leaking by Clinton and her allies of her likely appointment, designed to box the President-elect into a corner, should teach Obama a lesson: the Clintons will try to outflank him on every turn and undermine him when he gets in their way. These are no partners for a new president to have on a world stage.

So is the champion of hope and change going to appoint the woman that he derided as the ultimate apostle of the status quo, whose husband travels the world trailing clouds of conflicts of interest in his wake?

Isn't that just what the old politicians would do?



http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/2008...ent-the-audacity-of-broken-promises/#more-495
 
Will someone please knock me upside the head? I've been in a pretty happy Disney mood until now... I decided to go lurking on the CB. :sad2: The liberals have me all depressed now. They're all happy because their guys will be in office and reading what they write and knowing what I know to be the truth about these people... :scared: It's all doom and gloom and now I'm all depressed.

I’m all for the “don’t blame me, I didn’t vote for him” but I’ll have to watch our country tank while I’m saying it and there’s nothing to be happy for in that.
 
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