The Conservative - Liberal Debate Thread

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We have threads where debate is supposed to be limited but it doesn't seem to work that way. So for the Liberals and Conservatives that want to go at each other why don't you use this thread.

That way, the Liberal and Conservative threads can stay "pure".

If you are a lurker on one of those threads and want to have a debate, bring it here.

Have Fun
 
Personally, I like sticking to the individual topic threads to debate. I'm thinking this one would just be a repeat of what is said in all other threads. Kinda boring and repetitive if you ask me...
 
For the record, you and I will never agree politically on virtually anything, but this is a great idea that's long overdue. My compliments.

(Of course, this thread has a life expectancy of 18 hours/4 pages (whichever comes first) but that's another story...)
 
1. This thread will be closed before it hits page 10

2. As Mod Kathy noted on the liberal thread the other day

And remember that no one "owns" any thread. Any member is welcome to post on any thread on the DISboards.

So there are not "pure" threads.

~Amanda
 

Personally, I like sticking to the individual topic threads to debate. I'm thinking this one would just be a repeat of what is said in all other threads. Kinda boring and repetitive if you ask me...

No, this thread should be used to argue political topics. The other threads are for discussions between like minded people. Unfortunately, some posters find it necessary to disrupt other people's fun.
 
No, this thread should be used to argue political topics. The other threads are for discussions between like minded people. Unfortunately, some posters find it necessary to disrupt other people's fun.

I redirect you to Kathy's quote. Deal with it.

~Amanda
 
No, this thread should be used to argue political topics. The other threads are for discussions between like minded people. Unfortunately, some posters find it necessary to disrupt other people's fun.

I'm not talking about the liberal and conservative "no debate" threads. I agree with you that no debate should take place on those threads. I'm talking about the regular everyday political threads that pop up each day. On those threads are where the real debate should take place. JMHO.

This thread reminds me of something. What ever happened to the combined Conservative/Liberal "No Debate" thread that was rattling around here a month or two ago? I seem to remember that thread was getting pretty long.
 
For the record, you and I will never agree politically on virtually anything, but this is a great idea that's long overdue. My compliments.

(Of course, this thread has a life expectancy of 18 hours/4 pages (whichever comes first) but that's another story...)

I hope this works out. I think it is fun to have political debate (especially since I am on the right side :) )

You have now taken the first step to the dark side by seeing that a conservative can have a good idea - soon you will be pulling the lever for McCain...
 
I'm not talking about the liberal and conservative "no debate" threads. I agree with you that no debate should take place on those threads. I'm talking about the regular everyday political threads that pop up each day. On those threads are where the real debate should take place. JMHO.

Absolutely agree:thumbsup2

Unfortunately some posters can't uphold the sanctity of No Debate.
 
I hope this works out. I think it is fun to have political debate (especially since I am on the right side :) )

You have now taken the first step to the dark side by seeing that a conservative can have a good idea - soon you will be pulling the lever for McCain...

I've always acknowledged that a Conservative can have a good idea. Will you state the reverse and provide an example for us?
 
I've always acknowledged that a Conservative can have a good idea. Will you state the reverse and provide an example for us?

No I can't because to me every Liberal "idea" results in the same act. Take money from group of people and give it to another group of "preferred" people.

Honestly, I see the democratic party as a loose-knit collection of special interest groups and all democratic "ideas" pit one group's outcome against another.

I'm not trying to be snarky about it. That's just how I see it.

I think the only issue that keeps the democratic party a viable nation party is abortion rights.


So I would ask you. Name a liberal idea that doesn't require a redistribution of wealth?

Now I will grant you that the Republican Party is not reflecting Conservative values (lower taxes, less regulation, smaller government) but I think that is because power corrupts and the Republican Party was corrupted by 12 years of holding congress.

I will also grant you that the Republican Party is being somewhat controlled by the Religious right. The example I would use for that is over the debate of embryonic stem cells.
 
an oldie but a goodie

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I'm a 36. I'm a glutton for punishment on the debate threads...oh, and snarky and rude.

I'm in the camp that people should respect the liberal/conservative threads as a civil discourse of like minded individuals regardless of the "technical" rules.

In 2004 maybe 2 days before the election we went to a rally for Bush at the Pease tradeport in Portsmouth, NH and there was an obnoxious group of liberals there just because "they wanted to see the President" and they "we're every bit as entitled to be there as everyone else" Perhaps true, it was a ticket only event and I never quite "got" that....I'd never show up to disrupt a Democratic event...thats just not my style.
 
No I can't because to me every Liberal "idea" results in the same act. Take money from group of people and give it to another group of "preferred" people.

Honestly, I see the democratic party as a loose-knit collection of special interest groups and all democratic "ideas" pit one group's outcome against another.

I'm not trying to be snarky about it. That's just how I see it.

I think the only issue that keeps the democratic party a viable nation party is abortion rights.


So I would ask you. Name a liberal idea that doesn't require a redistribution of wealth?

Now I will grant you that the Republican Party is not reflecting Conservative values (lower taxes, less regulation, smaller government) but I think that is because power corrupts and the Republican Party was corrupted by 12 years of holding congress.

I will also grant you that the Republican Party is being somewhat controlled by the Religious right. The example I would use for that is over the debate of embryonic stem cells.


Well, I will give you credit for sticking to your opinion and not being hypocritical about which side posts more on the other's thread etc. I also give you credit for being one of the few conservatives who has not fallen suddenly in love with Hillary.

For 16 years she was probably the most hated Liberal of them all from your side and now in the last month there is suddenly all this respect and admiration for her from your side. :confused3
 
No I can't because to me every Liberal "idea" results in the same act. Take money from group of people and give it to another group of "preferred" people.

Honestly, I see the democratic party as a loose-knit collection of special interest groups and all democratic "ideas" pit one group's outcome against another.

I'm not trying to be snarky about it. That's just how I see it.

I think the only issue that keeps the democratic party a viable nation party is abortion rights.


So I would ask you. Name a liberal idea that doesn't require a redistribution of wealth?

Now I will grant you that the Republican Party is not reflecting Conservative values (lower taxes, less regulation, smaller government) but I think that is because power corrupts and the Republican Party was corrupted by 12 years of holding congress.

I will also grant you that the Republican Party is being somewhat controlled by the Religious right. The example I would use for that is over the debate of embryonic stem cells.

If it's all the same, I'll just think of you as "Joe Republican" from here on in. It's an oldie but goodie, but I think this answers you perfectly on many levels.

A DAY IN THE LIFE OF JOE REPUBLICAN
Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water quality standards. With his first swallow of coffee, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to insure their safety and that they work as advertised. All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too.

He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry. In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.

Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his workday. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

It's noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FDIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression. Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime.

Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification. He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.

Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."
 
If it's all the same, I'll just think of you as "Joe Republican" from here on in. It's an oldie but goodie, but I think this answers you perfectly on many levels.

There were legitimate questions in that analysis of liberal policies, and you answer with a bad cliche joke?

Many (most) liberal policies DO invovle the redistribution of wealth...why not just say yes thats what we believe is the right course of action in the interest of public policy/the common good/ whatever you want to use to defend it and be done with it.
 
For the record, you and I will never agree politically on virtually anything, but this is a great idea that's long overdue. My compliments.

(Of course, this thread has a life expectancy of 18 hours/4 pages (whichever comes first) but that's another story...)

That "life expectancy" might be pushing it. :lmao:
 
There were legitimate questions in that analysis of liberal policies, and you answer with a bad cliche joke?

Many (most) liberal policies DO invovle the redistribution of wealth...why not just say yes thats what we believe is the right course of action in the interest of public policy/the common good/ whatever you want to use to defend it and be done with it.



You telling others how they should post might be one of the many reasons this format probably isn't going to work imho, although I applaud the OP for trying.
 



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