The Canadian Film at Epcot - Star agrees with many here.

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It's the Mouse vs. The Fixer

JACK LAKEY
TORONTO STAR
STAFF REPORTER
May 2, 2005

ORLANDO—There's a Mickey Mouse movie playing here at Walt Disney World's Epcot Center, but it has nothing to do with the famous rodent.

The film, entitled O' Canada, is intended to feature the best of our country for visitors to Epcot's Canada Pavilion.

It should be Woe Canada. The movie captures and magnifies almost every hokey cliché about the Great White North, from dog sleds, herds of caribou and men in lumberjack shirts to a narrator who keeps saying "eh."

Toronto is kissed off in the 18-minute film in a matter of seconds, in an aerial shot of the skyline. It offers not a hint of the culture, diversity and sophistication of Canada's largest city.

The Fixer usually sticks pretty close to home. But an email from Angie Filipowich of Mississauga, who wrote that the film was embarrassing to Canadians and badly in need of updating, piqued our curiosity.

We came. We watched. We cringed.

"I thought, `Here's something you can fix,' because it's been bugging me for a long time," Filipowich said in an interview.

"As it is, Americans don't know anything about us, and this just adds to the myths, especially that `eh' that's thrown in. It made my skin crawl. And Mounties riding in on their horses. Could anything be more cliché? We get stereotyped enough.

"And it's so old. It doesn't make sense that they haven't updated this movie. It's gotta go."

Concerns were also raised at a committee meeting of Toronto city council last December, during a discussion of funding for tourism promotion.

Councillor Case Ootes said he'd been to Epcot with his family in September and saw the movie. "My wife and I were very disappointed, and embarrassed as a matter of fact.

"The Toronto scene was basically a picture of the CN Tower," Ootes (Ward 29, Toronto Danforth) said, adding it's so old that the Rogers Centre (SkyDome), which was completed in 1989, is nowhere to be seen.

Epcot is one of five theme parks in the massive Disney World facility. Canada is one of eight countries featured in Epcot's World Showcase pavilions.

It features an ersatz canyon and waterfall, totem poles, a reproduction of old Quebec architecture, gardens, a restaurant and shops where Mountie keychains and the ubiquitous bottles of maple syrup can be purchased.

It could use a Tim Hortons, or maybe a Beer Store outlet. At least there are no igloos.

The movie plays in a circular theatre with nine overhead screens, called CircleVision 360. At points where timeless features such as wildlife or the Rocky Mountains are shown, the effect is spectacular.

But then the stereotypes kick in. A guy in a flannel shirt and fuzzy hairdo from the mid-'70s is shown, proudly displaying a salmon. While an outdoorsman paddles a canoe, the narrator intones that, "you can be part of nature out here, and see life in the wild all around you."

It moves on to herding caribou by helicopter, chuckwagon races, the Mounties' Musical Ride and a marching highland pipe band. There's a bobsled run, kids playing hockey and skaters on Ottawa's Rideau Canal.

During an aerial shot of Montreal, a narrator takes over. Her phony French accent is so forced and syrupy that some Canadians in a showing we attended were rolling their eyes.

"I don't think they could find any more clichés," said Zach Schwartz of Niagara Falls, Ont.

"I'm a proud Canadian, but I'm not proud of this film."

Alex Solovotus, who immigrated from Russia to Florida a few years ago, watched it with his girlfriend, Ramune Nielsen, a native of Denmark. "It makes Canadian people seem nice, but it is sort of old," said Solovotus.

"But I'd still like to visit Canada. The nature part of it makes Canada look awesome."

Gary and Roberta Albright, a couple from Seattle who've been to Disney World many times, said they have seen the film four times now and enjoy the stereotypes.

"The clichés are what we like about you Canadians," said Roberta Albright, laughing. "You know, Mounties and dog sleds and hockey. I don't think people who aren't Canadian see it as clichés. It's what is endearing about your country."

We figured the Canada Pavilion was a joint initiative between Disney and an agency of the federal government, especially after meeting two Canadian lads, dressed in checked flannel shirts, who were hosting screenings of the film.

They said it has nothing to do with the Canadian government. It's totally a Disney production. We usually focus on problems that are a government responsibility, but with hundreds of tourists watching the film each day, it amounts to a huge opportunity to promote Canada to travellers.

So we went looking for someone in Canada who might encourage Disney to update the flick.

Duncan Ross, executive director of tourism for the City of Toronto, said he's well aware of the movie and its shortcomings. From a Toronto perspective, Ross said it would be great if it reflected the cosmopolitan nature of the city.

"The film needs to be updated to present an accurate, contemporary image of Toronto that reflects our diversity, vitality, creativity and sophistication," said Ross. "This city has changed immensely since that film was made in the early 1980s."

He added that the Canadian Tourism Commission in Ottawa has been "making overtures to try to get that film updated." We couldn't get anyone at the commission to comment on it.

But to Disney's credit, it seems to be aware of the need to produce a film that reflects contemporary Canada.

"Walt Disney World is in the process of looking for partners to update the film, and currently we don't have a timeframe that's been established as yet," said Angela Saclamacis, a publicist with Walt Disney Canada in Toronto.

Ross said Toronto would be glad to help, and would accommodate any Disney film crew that shows up.
 
And we all know that this country revolves around Toronto :rolleyes:

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5 theme park???


5???

Great article, but it needs more than just Toronto...I am ashamed that it is still the same film...It needs to go and soon.

Maybe after the Olympics in 2010 it might get some good footage to use...


Please DISNEY...Remake that film....


Rant over
 
Geez, I better go see real soon before they do change it!

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Scratch
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It doesn't revolve around Toronto but if politicians from here are willing to get the ball rolling to update that awful movie then it's a start! :flower:

Myst
 
>Epcot is one of five theme parks in the massive Disney World facility. Canada is one of eight countries featured in Epcot's World Showcase pavilions.

Ok quickly. I dare anyone to name the five theme parks and the eight countries!
 
wtg2000 said:
>Epcot is one of five theme parks in the massive Disney World facility. Canada is one of eight countries featured in Epcot's World Showcase pavilions.

Ok quickly. I dare anyone to name the five theme parks and the eight countries!

Magic Kingdom
Epcot
Disney Studios
Animal Kingdom
Don't bother to check your facts World

America
Morocco
Chinada
Japexico
France
United Norway
Germany
Italy
 
PanamaMike said:
Magic Kingdom
Epcot
Disney Studios
Animal Kingdom
Don't bother to check your facts World

America
Morocco
Chinada
Japexico
France
United Norway
Germany
Italy
LOL! Or how about NAFTA, EU, Pacific Rim, Morocco and G.B. - That's only five!
 
We figured the Canada Pavilion was a joint initiative between Disney and an agency of the federal government, especially after meeting two Canadian lads, dressed in checked flannel shirts, who were hosting screenings of the film.

Actually in the planning stages of Epcot, our government said that they would help Disney out with the Canadian pavilion.

As time passed, the Canadian goverment backed out of the deal. Leaving Disney stuck with the opening of Epcot approaching fast. So they literally flew over Canada and 'captured' whatever *feel* that they could. Disney was basically stuck to whatever research they could do on Canada in the US (do you really think that their *books* on Canada would have anything other then these clichés?)

I know one of the first managers from the Canadian Pavillion. She's the one who shared the story. (she now works at the Grand Floridian Cafe)

What's the moral of the story? Blame Canada! :teeth:
 
EPCOT opened in 1982, which means it was being planned in the 1980-82 timeframe. Around then we had a couple government changes. Clark came in for about nine months and then was out. So we had three governments in about a year. I wonder if this change had anything to do with it. At least we got something, which is more than Italy, Germany or Japan got.

Canada was a bit sad when we visited last week. No beaver tails, stores on top level closed, old movie. It's still beautifully done and the restaurant is good.

The rumors of a water ride in Canada seem to be not true if Disney is considering updating the movie.
 
Hmm.. Maybe they can add some stuff in about legalization of pot, the Quebec referendum, and then onto the sponsorship stuff! :rotfl:

I agree, the film is really outdated. I almost said bad, but it's not bad. It's a nice film and shows the scenery of Canada quite well, I think. The fake French accent was pretty funny, and seeing T/O without the Dome just looks wrong now. I think the clichés do indeed have their place though -- I mean, while it is cliché, it's part of what "defines" Canada. I think there should be many other things that show the Canadian culture much better, though.

Who knows what will happen. Whenever we've gone in to see it, it's always been pretty full. Of course, how would people that have never been to Canada know any better as to what it looks like. :rolleyes:
 
I do think the film needs updating but I don't think it needs to much more about TO and I do like not seeing the skydome that IMHO is an eyesore and the ball team sucks to. They should focus more on Canada and Canadian culture not necessarily how diversified we are but what makes Canada so great and our heritage so a bit of the old and some of the new not all current events etc.
 
I think it's difficult to show culture in a movie like that. Rather than a blow by blow account of Canada, I'd like to see a movie that just shows 15 minutes of spectacular scenery, or maybe extreme sports in the great outdoors. This would entice people to come to Canada and leave an indelible impression on their minds more than a cross country travelogue.

Send one of those 360 cameras over Niagara Falls!
 
Not just the movie but the entertainment as well...

I love Off-Kilter but they are not from Canada...

With all the talent in Canada, why not showcase some of it. I would even like to see Native "throat" singers...A celtic NS band....Acadian Music..

We do great improv, we have Awsome comedians...

If Disney wants Idea...We can help.


I imagine a large map on the screen showing North America...we fly toward the top of the map and PLUNGE into a Province and SEE it...The scenery...quarky places, largest blueberry or lobster or coin...then out of the map again and plunge into the rockies. Then into Toronto etc etc...

We have so much to see...it would help people from the States who don't know where Canada is.

I have talked to People in California that when we said we were from Canada, they asked if it was near FRANCE!!!

One guy asked my friend if we have malls here in Canada?

People need to see that arriving at the border in July and asking where to sky is crazy...

It could ENTERTAIN AND EDUCATE!!!


Rant over...Sorry but I really hate that movie. :badpc:
 
Ok, I must agree. The movie is absolutely horrible. I was almost laughing eveytime I heard "eh". Some of the tourists standing beside me were thrilled to hear the "eh" from a Canadian. Are we really known for that, eh?

I also have to agree with another poster. The article seems to implicate that the movie should revolve around Toronto. I know - he didn't come right out and say it. I live in Alberta, where the rockies are. There are amazing views here. Also, Nunavut has also been added as a new territory. You think it would be important to add that one in.

But, even if they made a new one, do you think they would omit all the stereotypes? And really, do you think there are no stereotypes in all the other films there?

But, in all honesty, I would love to see a new movie made for the Canadian pavilion, as well as a new pavilion all together - but that's another topic altogether.

Jo
 
It's not really the stereotypes that I hate it's how old the movie is...


We all look like we are caught in a 70's timewarp... :rotfl:

They can keep the RCMP musical horse ride, lots of hockey and even the word eh a few times but the fake french has to go and new images. :rolleyes:
 
Just please keep the song. It's the only surviving tune of the "early 80's ilk" that pervaded all of Epcot at opening. "Tomorrow's Child", "Energy, You Make the World Go 'Round", "Horizons", "Listen to the Land"... all of those songs are gone. But, each and every time I watch "O Canada", the thing that is sure to bring a smile to my face is that that old song.
 
Our youngest DD (then 5) on our 2nd day in Happiest Place on Earth decided to give her review of the O Canada Movie. This normally well-behaved kid did 1 major melt-down so this Mom was spared the rest of that movie -- we exited for the bench outside. We'd only just started our day at Epcot too -- been there about 1 hour. Truly, I was more embarassed by the movie than my DD's behaviour. Rest of the family agreed that it was The cheesiest thing they'd seen & So Old. I am nostalgic about WDW keeping rides like COP, but not that Canada movie. It would be nice if OUR Tourism offices made it a priority. Look how many people see that thing. Willing captive audiences.

PhotobearSam, I LOVE your idea A map showing individual provinces North of The Border would be great. What an easy way to show the exciting differences and educate people that as soon as you cross the border you're not going to get snow 365 days. I'd love to see that Shediac lobster again too! Canadians would want to see the rest of their own country too -- from a trip to the USA! I'd rather have that feeling leaving the theatre than the one my family had when they left after enduring the whole thing. :blush:
 
my DBF had his first taste of WDW last year and the movie still leaves a sour taste in his mouth. He's always wanting to write letters to get it changed. He's a audio engineer and feels that not only does the movie need redoing but done by Canadians...We have so much filming skills here that it should be used. He also suggests filming some Carnival, our exports to the US, even our filming industry. I want some curling and hockey.

Has anyone thought to send this thread to either Disney or Tourism Canada?


PS I have never had so much fun reading a thread!
 














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