Texas Flooding

Texas floods leave at least 51 dead, 27 girls missing as rescuers search devastated landscape​


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/t...cuers-search-devastated-landscape/ar-AA1I0v44

This is so sad and horrific. Those poor kids at camp, it is absolutely unimaginable :sad1:
It is horrible and heartbreaking. It seems like so many of these types of events happen at night, when it is difficult to see and move to safety. Those children must have been terrified. There was a Facebook video linked to a news story I read online that showed the flood as it hit downriver after the sun came up. The video starts with just a calm flow and then this rush of water starts to come through. Within minutes the water was up to the tops of some of the trees, and there was so much debris. The person filming was standing on a bridge that I understand ended up under water. It was awful to watch in daylight, so I can only imagine what it was like in the dark. :sad1:
 

So after searching and coming here.. I believe that my wife is being fed false information as she now believes they are rescued...and not willing to research her source..she saw photos of 2 weeks ago
 

Texas floods leave at least 51 dead, 27 girls missing as rescuers search devastated landscape​


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/t...cuers-search-devastated-landscape/ar-AA1I0v44

This is so sad and horrific. Those poor kids at camp, it is absolutely unimaginable :sad1:
OH MY GOODNESS!!!! This is the worst flooding ever!!!

So sad for the almost 120 poor, unfortunate, and innocent souls that will not only never camp again but if they’re Disney fans like us… will NEVER be able to return to any Disney destination ever again. Condolences and pixie dust to all the families and close friends who had folks in Texas there in the floods who now have one less child to hug and make memories with, or worst of all none.

Press f to pay respects.
 
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So after searching and coming here.. I believe that my wife is being fed false information as she now believes they are rescued...and not willing to research her source..she saw photos of 2 weeks ago
There were stories of the rescue of the remaining people at Camp Mystic, several hundreds being taken out by helicopter. With that story going out alongside the stories about the missing, it’s easy to get confused. I have not heard that any of the missing children have been found alive yet. :sad1:
 
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So after searching and coming here.. I believe that my wife is being fed false information as she now believes they are rescued...and not willing to research her source..she saw photos of 2 weeks ago
Is she susceptible to fake information in general? Like some people also refuse to believe that school shootings are real, that they are just staged as a gun control plot. And someone I know believed the government was killing off people after Helene to take over some kind of lithium mine in the NC mountains. People get sucked into some weird conspiracies and usually can't be swayed out of them as they'll just discredit any "proof" contrary to their formed belief.
 
So after searching and coming here.. I believe that my wife is being fed false information as she now believes they are rescued...and not willing to research her source..she saw photos of 2 weeks ago
Concerning, do you have any idea why?

Is it about the source of the information or the awfulness of the news?

I can't imagine why this would be a political thing for news outlets being partisan, but then again I never imagined lots of things would be but here we are🙃

Since it is all about so many kids maybe it is too awful for her to absorb and she'd rather be able to reject it?
 
Concerning, do you have any idea why?

Is it about the source of the information or the awfulness of the news?

I can't imagine why this would be a political thing for news outlets being partisan, but then again I never imagined lots of things would be but here we are🙃

Since it is all about so many kids maybe it is too awful for her to absorb and she'd rather be able to reject it?
Sadly, lots of folks get all their information from random Facebook, Twitter and Instagram posters rather from than actual news sources.
 
It's her phone and how it disperse information... what she saw was the previous week rescue of the girls at a different camp..this flooding has been going on for awhile though not in the horrible photos we have seen and yesterday footage of the barracks like sleeping quarters... when she saw the previous week flood rescue photo the girls crammed into the truck she thought it was the missing 20 AND told me so...so I search and found the previous week photo but no reference to the 20.. AND she wouldn't take redirect to see what she was seeing
 
It's her phone and how it disperse information... what she saw was the previous week rescue of the girls at a different camp..this flooding has been going on for awhile though not in the horrible photos we have seen and yesterday footage of the barracks like sleeping quarters... when she saw the previous week flood rescue photo the girls crammed into the truck she thought it was the missing 20 AND told me so...so I search and found the previous week photo but no reference to the 20.. AND she wouldn't take redirect to see what she was seeing
I see, maybe let it be, she sounds like the tragedy is just overwhelming and really, how would it help things to break through?

Some stories just get stuck in our minds, for me if I could unknow the details of Uvalde I would jump on the chance, same with knowing about the preschool from 9/11 and Oklahoma City.... some things are utterly sickening and incomprehensible. So much sadness these days.


I just heard the total of lost lives is 91 from this catastrophe
 
I think the death toll will increase since they may not know exactly how many people were in the area for the holiday weekend. As people don’t return home and are reported missing they will be added to the list. :sad1:
 
It’s heartbreaking to see what has happened. I was reading a news article this morning that mentioned the National Weather Service had issued advance warnings and urged people to take precautions. As we all know, weather can be unpredictable. That unpredictability is only compounded by how often we receive emergency alerts these days—so much so that they sometimes get ignored. I can’t help but wonder if that may have contributed to some of the tragic outcomes, where earlier action might have made a difference. I’m not trying to place blame—just sharing an observation. I know I’m guilty of ignoring some alerts myself, especially when they feel too general or don’t seem to directly apply to my immediate area, even though they’re sent to the broader region.

On the camp side of things, I find myself thinking about how this tragedy might impact other camps moving forward. My kids have been attending Scout camps (Girl Scouts and BSA) since 2012, and three of my four have been on staff for a few years now. Just this summer, we watched June rains raise river levels to concerning heights at our local BSA camp. With two of our kids on staff, we were closely watching how the camp was handling safety and preparedness—especially in terms of any potential emergency evacuations. At one point, river levels rose so quickly that the only bridge providing access to one side of camp was completely submerged. While that side of camp typically hosts fewer people due to its more rustic setup, there were still campers and staff staying there who would have needed reliable access to food, camp medic, and other essential resources. Thankfully, nothing major occurred, and the water eventually receded. Still, it served as a powerful reminder of how quickly conditions can change and the importance of strong emergency protocols in outdoor environments like these.

All of this makes me wonder—what emergency practices and trainings were in place at Camp Mystic for upper-level staff and directors? Every private sleepaway camp and Scout camp I’ve worked with has been accredited by the American Camp Association (ACA), which requires extensive training in emergency preparedness, outdoor safety, and risk management. In light of this tragedy, I can’t help but think about how many camps are now reviewing their protocols and procedures.

Additionally, with the advance weather alerts that had been issued, I’m curious why more precautions weren’t put in place. I understand that this was a case of historic flooding, and no one can predict exactly how severe conditions will become—but when emergency warnings are issued, it's important to act proactively. It's always better to be overly cautious than to face avoidable loss or tragedy.

Again, I’m not trying to place blame—just sharing something I’m personally reflecting on as a parent and someone with years of experience in the camp world.
 
It’s heartbreaking to see what has happened. I was reading a news article this morning that mentioned the National Weather Service had issued advance warnings and urged people to take precautions. As we all know, weather can be unpredictable. That unpredictability is only compounded by how often we receive emergency alerts these days—so much so that they sometimes get ignored. I can’t help but wonder if that may have contributed to some of the tragic outcomes, where earlier action might have made a difference. I’m not trying to place blame—just sharing an observation. I know I’m guilty of ignoring some alerts myself, especially when they feel too general or don’t seem to directly apply to my immediate area, even though they’re sent to the broader region.

On the camp side of things, I find myself thinking about how this tragedy might impact other camps moving forward. My kids have been attending Scout camps (Girl Scouts and BSA) since 2012, and three of my four have been on staff for a few years now. Just this summer, we watched June rains raise river levels to concerning heights at our local BSA camp. With two of our kids on staff, we were closely watching how the camp was handling safety and preparedness—especially in terms of any potential emergency evacuations. At one point, river levels rose so quickly that the only bridge providing access to one side of camp was completely submerged. While that side of camp typically hosts fewer people due to its more rustic setup, there were still campers and staff staying there who would have needed reliable access to food, camp medic, and other essential resources. Thankfully, nothing major occurred, and the water eventually receded. Still, it served as a powerful reminder of how quickly conditions can change and the importance of strong emergency protocols in outdoor environments like these.

All of this makes me wonder—what emergency practices and trainings were in place at Camp Mystic for upper-level staff and directors? Every private sleepaway camp and Scout camp I’ve worked with has been accredited by the American Camp Association (ACA), which requires extensive training in emergency preparedness, outdoor safety, and risk management. In light of this tragedy, I can’t help but think about how many camps are now reviewing their protocols and procedures.

Additionally, with the advance weather alerts that had been issued, I’m curious why more precautions weren’t put in place. I understand that this was a case of historic flooding, and no one can predict exactly how severe conditions will become—but when emergency warnings are issued, it's important to act proactively. It's always better to be overly cautious than to face avoidable loss or tragedy.

Again, I’m not trying to place blame—just sharing something I’m personally reflecting on as a parent and someone with years of experience in the camp world.
Well... it's a big can of worms... though your observations are very specific to a valid concern ... your post is lengthy so pulled out some words... protocol... procedure... proactivity

I'm always sharing to folks those 3 words about the earthquake coming to Yuma and Willamette valley Oregon and all I get is grief..my vehicle has been earthquake ready for 15 years ever since the experts came from Japan and alerted Oregon... the quake will be beyond your imagination.... this is an emergency!!!

Well citrus they tell me... it's just a possibility... And not of concern to us...
 
The photo that NBC just showed I think explains that any warning would probably not been effective/headed even in daylight as there is a concept called the 100 year flood and if I was a resident I would have stayed fast with the concept that it's not going to go over the cliff bank... this was more than just a flood...it was like a dam breach. 100 year flood molded the flash flood desert 🏜️ 🏜️ wash down at end of my street... but in my 7 years has not even come close to dangerous ... but in 1996 I did experience the 100 year flood in Oregon and no one was prepared for the minimal property damage
 
It’s heartbreaking to see what has happened. I was reading a news article this morning that mentioned the National Weather Service had issued advance warnings and urged people to take precautions. As we all know, weather can be unpredictable. That unpredictability is only compounded by how often we receive emergency alerts these days—so much so that they sometimes get ignored. I can’t help but wonder if that may have contributed to some of the tragic outcomes, where earlier action might have made a difference. I’m not trying to place blame—just sharing an observation. I know I’m guilty of ignoring some alerts myself, especially when they feel too general or don’t seem to directly apply to my immediate area, even though they’re sent to the broader region.

On the camp side of things, I find myself thinking about how this tragedy might impact other camps moving forward. My kids have been attending Scout camps (Girl Scouts and BSA) since 2012, and three of my four have been on staff for a few years now. Just this summer, we watched June rains raise river levels to concerning heights at our local BSA camp. With two of our kids on staff, we were closely watching how the camp was handling safety and preparedness—especially in terms of any potential emergency evacuations. At one point, river levels rose so quickly that the only bridge providing access to one side of camp was completely submerged. While that side of camp typically hosts fewer people due to its more rustic setup, there were still campers and staff staying there who would have needed reliable access to food, camp medic, and other essential resources. Thankfully, nothing major occurred, and the water eventually receded. Still, it served as a powerful reminder of how quickly conditions can change and the importance of strong emergency protocols in outdoor environments like these.

All of this makes me wonder—what emergency practices and trainings were in place at Camp Mystic for upper-level staff and directors? Every private sleepaway camp and Scout camp I’ve worked with has been accredited by the American Camp Association (ACA), which requires extensive training in emergency preparedness, outdoor safety, and risk management. In light of this tragedy, I can’t help but think about how many camps are now reviewing their protocols and procedures.

Additionally, with the advance weather alerts that had been issued, I’m curious why more precautions weren’t put in place. I understand that this was a case of historic flooding, and no one can predict exactly how severe conditions will become—but when emergency warnings are issued, it's important to act proactively. It's always better to be overly cautious than to face avoidable loss or tragedy.

Again, I’m not trying to place blame—just sharing something I’m personally reflecting on as a parent and someone with years of experience in the camp world.
What’s concerning to me is that the counselors don’t have access to their cell phones during the day or night—they’re required to turn them in and can only use them during their break. Additionally, all announcements at the camp are made over a loudspeaker. However, when the power went out, the loudspeaker system became inoperable, leaving no reliable way to communicate important information.
 













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