Tell me about teaching (LONG vent about nursing)

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I saw the "Tell me about nursing" thread so I thought I'd use a similar title.

Well, for 6 years I have wanted to become a labor and delivery or NICU RN. I became a Certified Nursing Assistant in Feb. 2008 and a Certified Medication Aide in Jan. of this year and now I want out of the nursing world. Before I wanted to be a RN, I wanted to be a Veterinarian but that is not feasible for me right now because with as much time that I have put into working 64 hr weeks as well as countless hours into nursing prereq's, I just want to be home with my daughter.

Is it burnout? I don't know. Maybe it's just not in me anymore.

However, my DH will be starting nursing school here within a month, my facility has had nursing students do clinicals, and when I see them as well as the countless people in scrubs everywhere I go I get extremely sad. Knowing that I have to live through it for the rest of my life with my DH being a nurse gets me sad. Sad that I won't get that prestige of "Wow, they're nurses!" or the feeling of catching that baby or saving that baby in the NICU. Then I'm reminded of working as the only nurse aide for 30 residents on a 16 hour shift knowing that I have to wake up for another 16 hour shift on a weekend that I haven't spent with my daughter in almost 2 years, or as the only med aide to 48 residents and being expected to help lift/change/feed residents. Then I hear the LPN in the background arguing with a lazy CNA or with a doctor who yelled at her for calling him and blah blah blah. Then your partner goes and hides in a resident's room while you go put the rest of the residents on the hall in bed or get them all up to take them to the dining room, then they tell the nurse they did everything while you sat (this was last year and luckily the nurse saw right through it and I have enough balls now to stop something like that when it happens).

I know no job is perfect. But I hate having conflicting feelings about something. I've had them for months. What, in my mind, is after veterinarian and nurse? A teacher. I need to know all of the negatives. I glorified nursing and I can't make that same mistake again. I know you have discipline problems, so besides that.

BTW, I know I want to teach elementary school. I have shadowed teachers in grades PK-3rd and I will shadow 4th and 5th next week to see whether I want to do an Early Childhood (PK-3rd) or Elementary (1st-8th here) degree. I'm 99% sure I want to do Early Childhood.

Something I was thinking about is flexibility. How hard is it to take a week long vacation throughout the school year? I don't know if I want to do Disney in the summer due to the crowds, so we may have to give up Disney all together :(

ETA: What a post for my 100th post here on DIS!!
 
My one hold back with teaching would be, by the year 2015, there will be approx 12 candidates per 1 teaching position available in America.(and that's if the economy is up to par by then) This is according to my guidance counselor at our local community college.

If you're up for the challenge & love competition...no prob.
 
Dh is a teacher. He teaches high school science in a public school. Lots of people burn out and leave. Competition for elementary positions around here is fierce. It's not about education or engendering a love of learning any more. It's about herding kids through endless standardized tests.

You do get the summers and school vacations off, which is great. He's home at a reasonable hour, although he often has papers to grade and lessons to plan, but having kids, at least you can do this work at home.

Forget taking non-school vacations. It is absolutely not allowed, and that's a real con. We pay top dollar to go on the school vacation weeks. The airfare is double what it is at other times, and there are very seldom any deals those weeks. But that goes with the territory.
 
My one hold back with teaching would be, by the year 2015, there will be approx 12 candidates per 1 teaching position available in America.(and that's if the economy is up to par by then) This is according to my guidance counselor at our local community college.

If you're up for the challenge & love competition...no prob.

Nursing is the same, so I've heard. So no real difference there. It's all about "who you know" :(
 

Forget taking non-school vacations. It is absolutely not allowed, and that's a real con. We pay top dollar to go on the school vacation weeks. The airfare is double what it is at other times, and there are very seldom any deals those weeks. But that goes with the territory.

It sucks for WDW, but rocks for just about everywhere else. I didn't think about having "in season" prices. However with nursing you don't get the joy of having Christmas and Thanksgiving off which is big to me. Weekends matter to me more now that I don't have them.

I don't mind doing lesson plans and grading after work. DH and I always have brought work home whether it be emotionally or physically, LOL.
 
You need to seriously think about what the job outlook is for teaching. I went into it thinking there'd be jobs (you read everywhere that places are always hiring teachers!), but where I live there can be up to 300 applicants for one job. :sad2: I can't tell you how awful it is to have this degree and not be able to use it.
 
DH and I are both elementary teachers. We were both in intern programs when we first started (free tuition to get MA degrees, a teaching job and extra support), and we're now in our 18th year of teaching.

There are lots of pros, but you asked for the cons, so here goes:

1) Each year more and more is expected, less prep time is given, and the problems kids face seem to get worse as the years go by.

2) All of the standardized and district testing has taken some of the fun out of teaching.

3) If you are a good teacher, you will not be working bell-to-bell. You will spend countless hours of your own time preparing, reading, talking to parents, maintaining a web page, etc...

4) If you want to have lots of books, materials and kid-friendly items, you will spend out of your own pocket. Many kids don't show up with any school supplies at all, either. This shouldn't be much of an issue for pre-k though.

5) Since more people are unemployed, more are looking at the teaching field which may be overcrowded in a few years. You might consider teaching special ed where there's always a demand. I teach special ed and wouldn't have it any other way. :love:

6) The next few years are going to be lean, so no pay raises, but expect pay cuts and increased insurance costs & deductibles which puts you in the negative with each passing year. We are looking at possible massive cuts for next year. Things were okay this year, but now the state budget finance committee is saying each district across the state is going to have to trim another 10% from their budgets. For some smaller districts, that will put them out of business! For larger districts like mine, there will be hiring freezes as jobs for support people are elminated and those support people get reassigned to classrooms where the previous teacher quits or retires.

We are also looking at pay cuts again, maybe no music or art, no librarian which also means less prep time for teachers. It also looks like my district is taking teacher training days away to save money, so the amount of professional development for schools will be gone and we will no longer get paid for those days.

And no, you can't go to Disney during the school year, but I've seen it happen. Those teachers aren't usually good quality though. We usually go the day after school lets out which is in May, so the crowds aren't too horrible yet. We used to have a 4 day weekend in October, so we'd take an extra day off and do Disneyland, but now that's been cut to only one day.
 
How can you believe working as a CNA in a nursing home equates to being an NICU nurse? Trust me they are vastly different experiences. I don't think you can lay the problems of your current job situation at the feet of the nursing profession?
 
IDoDis: Thanks for the informative response. What are the pros again? LOL

I have to remind myself:

There is no perfect job, there is no perfect job, there is no perfect job.
 
How can you believe working as a CNA in a nursing home equates to being an NICU nurse? Trust me they are vastly different experiences. I don't think you can lay the problems of your current job situation at the feet of the nursing profession?

Yes, but there are similarities: working short staffed (which many professions can attest to, however most don't have the chance of killing someone as an effect), doctors, lazy partners, etc.

As a prospective nurse, I pay attention to things the nurse does that other CNA's don't care about so I have a clue of what the nursing world is like. I have seen my problems mentioned from acute care nurses and support staff as well. It's not at every hospital and every nursing home, but it's quite widespread.
 
OK, I agree with you, don't go into nursing, because I also believe in the power of self-fullfilling prophesy, and if you truly believe you can generalize your very specific experiences onto the entire profession, perhaps science is not your gift.
 
Just like with ANYTHING else, there are pros and cons (to both teaching and nursing) and good and bad places of employment. Even within the same hospital, there are units with awesome managers and it's a dream (almost! LOL) to work there, and then there are the managers from the pits.

For example, I was working for an AWESOME person, who let me take 6 months off with each of my DDs. (FMLA only requires 12 weeks). Other managers wouldn't allow one day over what is mandated. I also took 3 weeks off for my wedding, which wasn't an FMLA event at all. :)

If you don't want weekends and holidays, there are a lot of opportunities out there in nursing. Pretty much anything in a doctor's office, and within the hospital, departments like pre-admit screening and one day surgery are only open on "normal" business days.

You could also combine your ideas and go for school nursing. There's no "partner" to laze around while you do all the work, as there's usually just one nurse in a school, and of course, you're off whenver your kids are. I don't know if it's easier for a school nurse than it is for a teacher to take vacation during the school year, but I'll bet it's not.

I'm concerned that you're going to see your DH doing what you wanted to do and regret your choice later. Have you done any type of work or observation/shadowing in an NICU or L&D unit? Please do that before you write off nursing. :goodvibes
 
As a teacher educator and licensed PK-8 teacher, one thing I would think about is whether you are interested in teaching because you are:

-passionate about the call to educate children
-to be an advocate for the profession
-to be willing to think deeply about content (yes, even in preschool---because even social and motor development are content for which a good teacher plans intentional lessons to develop in age-appropriate ways)
-to work long hours planning for your students, to get to know each of your students and plan individualized teaching strategies accordingly
-to be willing to engage in continuing education throughout your career (even in summers sometimes)
-willing to work with the realities of the bureaucratic nature of schools without letting it get to you
-willing to be "on" all of the time when you are in class
-willing to spend your own money on materials and supplies (and I'll add that in early childhood I did spend a lot on materials---books, puppets, even photo copies---probably 1500. a year overall).



The other posters are right that the job market will be very tight. The good teachers will find jobs....the ones who are in it for the 9-4 hours and summers off will soon find that they won't last long.

My advice would be to think hard about WHY you want to teach and if it is for the right reasons, then go for it. It isn't glorified baby sitting, if done well...it is really a "craft" that can be very fulfilling!
 
OK, I agree with you, don't go into nursing, because I also believe in the power of self-fullfilling prophesy, and if you truly believe you can generalize your very specific experiences onto the entire profession, perhaps science is not your gift.

Um, ok. Moving on...

laurie31: I have actually printed off and fillled out an application to shadow a RN but haven't had the time to take it up there but I will on Tuesday! I know about how each unit is different...each hall is different in a nursing home! Thanks for your insight!

emma'smom: I knew about and have planned to do all of those things with my career. I am the type to go above and beyond for something I am passionate about. I wanted to get involved with AWHONN and NANN if I was a nurse and NAEYC if I was a teacher and my state associations for both. I am big on conferences and meetings/inservices and have even been to the CNA convention in my state. If you ask my DH, I research everything that I want to do, LOL, which is why I like both of these careers - they involve a lot of detail and energy spent researching various ways of doing things. I like to look at evidence based research and update my practice.

I just wish I knew what I was going to do already. For a week it's teaching, then the next week it's nursing. Besides shadowing a RN, I don't know how else I'm going to figure it out. What one has, the other one doesn't.

It's driving me insane!!!
 
I will tell you straight out that teaching is NOT a profession to go into-- at least in my state. I graduated summa cum laude with two Bachelors and two teaching certifications and was by all accounts "highly qualified". I did not find any full time positions and that was looking for over a year. I subbed for six years and did long term maternity positions for almost a year.

While my credentials were almost perfect, (combination of urban/suburban, reading specialization, etc...) I could not find an open position. I went ot a teaching job fair and it was so mobbed with prospective teachers. One elementary position had over 800 applicants!

Special Ed is even getting tricky around here. It is now required by most districts for all teachers to be highly qualified in every subject WHILE they are a special ed teacher. For example, a special ed teacher in a middle school needs to be certified in every subject that they are teaching. So, a special ed teacher needs to be dually certified in math, science, language, world language or social studies as well as having a speical ed cert. For most that means more transcript courses, Praxis fees, and cert fees. So for anyone that says special ed is the way to go, the teaching candidate needs to ask do you require dual certification in your state-- and if they do-- tack on extra work for your self as a student.
 
You need to seriously think about what the job outlook is for teaching. I went into it thinking there'd be jobs (you read everywhere that places are always hiring teachers!), but where I live there can be up to 300 applicants for one job. :sad2: I can't tell you how awful it is to have this degree and not be able to use it.

All I can say is that I understand how you feel. :hug:
 
I think you need to be more realistic about working.

You said you've glorified nursing, and I agree -- you're yearning for the moment when you catch the newborn baby; that's the OBGYN's job, even as an RN, you won't do that. You're talking about being a vet, which is an incredibly difficult to obtain job, much, much more difficult than becoming an RN or a teacher -- vet science is really a step up academically from either nursing or teaching. And you think that because you're not enjoying being a CNA, that is the same as knowing you wouldn't like to be an RN; the two are worlds apart. My high school daugther is working towards earning a CNA (and will have that certification before she has a high school diploma), while an RN is a much more advanced degree; of course the job descriptions are going to be vastly different.

I think shadowing the RN would be an excellent idea. It'd allow you to understand just what their job entails. Having had nothing but nursing majors as roommates in college, I can tell you this: It's more about paperwork than it is about catching newborn babies. You'll have loads of dull, repetative duties and a few highlight moments.

You said that no job is perfect, and you're right. Consider this though: WHY are you going to work every day? The #1 reason is probably so you can make a living. Of course you want to do something that you enjoy on a personal level, but don't lose sight of the fact that it's a JOB. You probably -- no, definitely -- wouldn't do it for free.

Don't leave the path you've already started (nursing) in search of a vague dream (teaching) -- not without good, concrete evidence that this is a good, realistic idea, and not without having thoroughly digested all the options available to you in nursing.
 
I actually think that nursing and teaching are pretty similar.

I'm a nurse and some of my best friends are teachers. We talk a lot about the similarities of our jobs - helping people, very demanding, giving of yourself, barely able to take a bathroom break, sometimes underappreciated, etc.

The sense that I got from reading your post is that you burnt out. Understandable working so many difficult hours per week (for presumably low pay), still with young children and a spouse in school, etc.

Whichever path you choose, you will have a long way to go to prepare for a professional career. It won't be easy, given your life circumstances at the moment. Looking at working hours of your future might indeed help you decide (it sounds like you're a people person either way).

Speaking generally here (of course there are exceptions and different options within each profession):

Teaching has decent daytime hours, with weekends, holidays and often summers off. You can probably expect to work 5 days per week. Often relatively close to home. Pretty nice set up.

Nursing has all kinds of hours, including shift work, weekends and holidays, with shift differentials. This can be a good thing - or not. Commute might be long if you want to work in a major medical center. However you might well be able to find a 36 hr position, three days per week. Eventually that will be nice when you have four days off per week.

In some ways nursing will give you more bang for your buck in that you can become a working professional sooner while pulling a salary competitive to that of a teacher. (You also don't have to spend as much on a wardrobe and usually there is overtime if you want it.) The downside is that you can expect to be exposed to every illness known to man, critical situations, loss of life, verbal and physical abuse, sometimes little support and yes, burnout.

I know teaching has its own hazards. So flip a coin. ;)

Good luck with whatever you decide.

Oh, and I agree with others that working in a nursing home and working in an acute care hospital are very different. I've done both. If you work in a reputable hospital, you will probably encounter less issues of understaffing. Have you considered getting a hospital job as opposed to a nursing home for now? Shadowing is great if that's possible.
 
DH and I are both elementary teachers. We were both in intern programs when we first started (free tuition to get MA degrees, a teaching job and extra support), and we're now in our 18th year of teaching.

There are lots of pros, but you asked for the cons, so here goes:

1) Each year more and more is expected, less prep time is given, and the problems kids face seem to get worse as the years go by.

2) All of the standardized and district testing has taken some of the fun out of teaching.

3) If you are a good teacher, you will not be working bell-to-bell. You will spend countless hours of your own time preparing, reading, talking to parents, maintaining a web page, etc...

4) If you want to have lots of books, materials and kid-friendly items, you will spend out of your own pocket. Many kids don't show up with any school supplies at all, either. This shouldn't be much of an issue for pre-k though.

5) Since more people are unemployed, more are looking at the teaching field which may be overcrowded in a few years. You might consider teaching special ed where there's always a demand. I teach special ed and wouldn't have it any other way. :love:

6) The next few years are going to be lean, so no pay raises, but expect pay cuts and increased insurance costs & deductibles which puts you in the negative with each passing year. We are looking at possible massive cuts for next year. Things were okay this year, but now the state budget finance committee is saying each district across the state is going to have to trim another 10% from their budgets. For some smaller districts, that will put them out of business! For larger districts like mine, there will be hiring freezes as jobs for support people are elminated and those support people get reassigned to classrooms where the previous teacher quits or retires.

We are also looking at pay cuts again, maybe no music or art, no librarian which also means less prep time for teachers. It also looks like my district is taking teacher training days away to save money, so the amount of professional development for schools will be gone and we will no longer get paid for those days.

And no, you can't go to Disney during the school year, but I've seen it happen. Those teachers aren't usually good quality though. We usually go the day after school lets out which is in May, so the crowds aren't too horrible yet. We used to have a 4 day weekend in October, so we'd take an extra day off and do Disneyland, but now that's been cut to only one day.
I've been teaching for 17 years (though I"m high school), and I assure you that this is a very realistic post. I do like my job, and there's no other job that I want; I intend to continue teaching 'til I hit 30 years. BUT it's far from perfect, and even though the OP says she understands that there's no ideal job, I don't think she really believes that deep down. I think she's chasing a dream rather than a job.

My rather random thoughts on teaching:

Do not glamorize teaching the way you've glamorized nursing. Do not go into this job because you imagine Lifetime movie moments in which you -- by sheer force of will and love -- take a classroom of inner-city youths and turn them from a group of behind-grade-level misfits into straight-A students motivated to learn. Yes, it's wonderful to see a lightbulb come on in a student's head, and over the years you'll have a few students for whom you'll know that you were really and truly THE PERSON who was there at the right time to change a life . . . but you'll never have a classroom full of them. A few kids will love you, the majority will be moderately attached to you, and a decent number will hate you before they even know your name.

It has become much harder as the years have gone by. Many parents have abdicated responsibility to the schools, and teachers are responsible for many things that are essentially beyond our control. If students don't attend school, don't do any reading outside school, rarely do homework, WE are still blamed for their failing grades. We're constantly filling out paperwork for special ed, 504s, ESL -- it's a real burden, and it eats into our limited planning time, which should be spent on what should be our real focus: providing an excellent lesson each and every day.

The first three years of teaching are very, very hard. At that point you're still learning how to present various lessons to the best of your ability, and you have to create so many worksheets, tests, etc. After about three years, things get easier (or you leave). Oh, you'll always find yourself adding new things: You'll find a new novel and will want to write up a great unit with good activities. You'll decide that you want to replace that ho-hum science experiment with something more exciting. You'll want to incorporate new technology into your lessons. And you'll find that your lessons IMPROVE every year. Your first year you'll launch into a vocabulary lesson that'll fall flat, but you'll figure out a better way, and you'll handle that unit more effectively next year. And after a couple years you'll find that you have a few "restful lessons" in your cabinets; a few lessons that you have PERFECTED and you can teach without effort or preparation -- and you'll learn to bring those out at just the right time in the year (for example, I just collected research papers, and I have to put in some serious time grading for the next two weeks (research papers take me about 40 hours of grading, all after-school over the course of two weeks). To keep myself from being overwhelmed, every year at research-paper grading time I pull out the same play, something I've done every year for the last 17 years x 6 classes per year; I can teach this without any effort, thus allowing me to grade those papers at home -- but in your first couple years of teaching, you don't have that "restful lesson" ready yet. You will NEVER reach the point that EVERYTHING is that nice, easy "restful lesson". You'll ALWAYS be adding to and changing your lesson plan cabinet.

You bring home work every night. Every night. Every night. You will ALWAYS have something to grade, something to prepare for tomorrow's lesson, some phone calls and paperwork that must be made right now. Though you will be able to leave school mid-afternoon, this will cut into what you're probably thinking will be family time. Sure, most professionals bring work home, but not EVERY NIGHT. In addition to managing your own classroom needs, you will be required to sell football tickets, chaperone dances and fall festivals, sponsor a club, etc.

You will spend more time on discipline than you expect. How do you feel about telling 17 year old boys to pull their pants up above their butts? Catching students smoking? Taking a cell phone from a girl who's texting during a test? What about when she swears she was just answering her mom's text? Writing up a student whom you really like? Even at the elementary level, you will deal with these situations. Not sometimes, but daily.

Quite a few parents will expect that you will stay after school AT THEIR WHIM for meetings. They'll call you and say that they want to meet with you at 5:30 on their way home from work -- doesn't matter that you are required to be at school at 6:45 and you're dismissed at 2:15. They want to meet at 5:30! Oh, and here's what they want to talk about in that meeting: You need to start tutoring Johnny after school twice a week; an hour each day will do. (No, he can't come on Mondays, which is your established anyone-can-come-in-for-help day; that's his karate lesson day.) In short, people expect you to be available all the time and expect you to bend over backwards to provide more, more, more for their children.

You will spend a great deal of money on classroom supplies.

As a teacher, you spend most of your day without adult contact. YOU are in charge all the time, no partner, no co-worker. There'll be a time when you don't know what to do, and you'll have to make up the answer on the spot. Later you can ask the experienced teacher across the hall how she would've handled it, but at that moment YOU have to make the call. Of course, after a few years, YOU ARE the experienced teacher across the hall, and this stops being such a problem.


Business thoughts:

The paycheck is small. No two ways around it! I live in a low-paying state, and I could definitely make more money in another job.

Being a teacher has saved me money in a number of ways: After my kids started school, I didn't need before-school care, though I did need after-school care. Being home a few hours earlier in the afternoon allows me to do a number of things to stretch my dollars, the same kind of things I'd do if I were a SAHM (cooking from scratch, canning, washing my own car, etc.)

When my children were small, being a teacher cost me money: I had to pay daycare in the summer (or lose my spot). Because elementary school lets out earlier than high school, I had to pay after-school care AT FULL PRICE even though my kids only stayed there 30 minutes each afternoon.

When they were very small, my kids had some trouble with the transition from school to summer, and then summer to school. They'd always have a week or two in which they were a bit befuddled by being made to get up early, missing their friends or the sandbox at day care, etc. By the time they started school, they understood the concept, but it wasn't fun during pre-school years.

We are one of the few professions that still has a traditional pension. I think most states are fairly similar in this: You put in 30 years of teaching, and you get a pension (and basic, basic healthcare) for the rest of your life. 30 years is a long, long time; most teachers do not stay a full 30 years.

Whereas nursing is a job that you can get anywhere, a state teaching pension ties you to your state. Oh, it's easy enough for a fully-licensed teacher to get a teaching license in another state, but if you move you'll start all over on your pension. My husband has had some good job offers in other states, but each time we've compared the extra salary he'd earn to the retirement benefits I'd lose, and each time we've chosen to stay in NC.

Do you care about moving up the ladder? Teachers don't really have much of a ladder. The first year teacher and the 20th year teacher are pretty much expected to do the same things. Unless you want to move into administration, you will not get perks that come with other jobs: new titles, nicer office, etc. I personally am not motivated in this way, but I have seen other teachers who've craved those rewards, and this is not a profession that'll provide them.

Teaching is very time-regimented. Your day (and your year) is very predictable. We have our calendars 3 years in advance, and it's super-easy to plan vacations far in advance; however, it's very difficult to be out of your classroom. Writing sub plans is a tremendous amount of work (so much work that most of us will come in sick rather than do it).

Yes, you could do a Disney vacation in the fall or spring by choosing a short week (i.e., Thanksgiving week, when we only go to school 2 days anyway, or a week when we have two teacher workdays), BUT it wouldn't be easy. First, we really only get workdays when report cards are due, and if you're going to take off, that means you have to get your grades into the computer and turned in BEFORE that day. So taking off a teacher workday means bringing home even more work in the week before your vacation. And there are mandatory workshops on teacher workdays.

Yes, you'll have predictable vacations throughout the year, but keep in mind that teachers are required to work some days when students are out. In short, do not go into teaching thinking that it's going to be sort of a 2/3 time job -- it is full-time and more. Over the years I've seen LOTS of people leave teaching after they realized that it isn't the flexible, take off plenty of time with my kids, easy little job that they thought it was.
 
I will tell you straight out that teaching is NOT a profession to go into-- at least in my state. I graduated summa cum laude with two Bachelors and two teaching certifications and was by all accounts "highly qualified". I did not find any full time positions and that was looking for over a year. I subbed for six years and did long term maternity positions for almost a year.

While my credentials were almost perfect, (combination of urban/suburban, reading specialization, etc...) I could not find an open position. I went ot a teaching job fair and it was so mobbed with prospective teachers. One elementary position had over 800 applicants!

Special Ed is even getting tricky around here. It is now required by most districts for all teachers to be highly qualified in every subject WHILE they are a special ed teacher. For example, a special ed teacher in a middle school needs to be certified in every subject that they are teaching. So, a special ed teacher needs to be dually certified in math, science, language, world language or social studies as well as having a speical ed cert. For most that means more transcript courses, Praxis fees, and cert fees. So for anyone that says special ed is the way to go, the teaching candidate needs to ask do you require dual certification in your state-- and if they do-- tack on extra work for your self as a student.
Depends upon where you live. I was hired IMMEDIATELY after I graduated (admittedly, the hiring climate was better in the early 90s). My student teacher was offered TWO JOBS in this county before she finished student teaching (she had paperwork for other counties, but didn't bother to finish filing those applications); she finished in June of 2008, so that's a recent story.

Special ed is tricky, AND they have a higher burn-out rate than other departments. Their jobs are HARD! But in my area, they are in need. Also, we need teachers for math and world languages. Also, ESL teachers are in high demand.

There are more elementary teachers out there trying to get jobs, so the competition's more stiff for them.
 












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