Talk to me about pins/trading

My daughters really enjoyed it this past trip. I bought 10 on ebay that they traded, but it wasn't enough. So, Disney had one of those purchase with purchase deals and was able to get each girl a lanyard wit 8 pins for about $19. They had a blast. Another friend bought 50 on ebay for $100 for her three kids to share.

At that price, your friend bought scrappers. :(

Also, the CM has to trade you if they have a pin you want...as long as they do not have one of the same pin you are trading.

I have to admit, it bums me out when I read of people buying a pin lot for a "too good to be true price" from ebay or one of the various websites out there. I have a hard time believing those pins are legitimate Disney pins and therefore, tainting pin trading in the parks.

There is a really good thread that lists some reputable ebay sellers. http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2213419

:thumbsup2 Thanks for sharing the super thread!! :) :goodvibes

I said, specifically about the pins, "this isn't something I want to get into because I don't need to be collecting a bunch of things I don't need." Because of the trading market, I worried that in order to enjoy it, you'd have to spend a lot of money. After further discussion with DW, we decided that we will each pick a pin or 2 representing what was meaningful to us for that trip. For example, we just went for our anniversary and picked up "Mr." and "Mrs." pins. Or get a Christmas themed one for when we went after Thanksgiving.

Also having a pouch to hold my FPs, park hopper and even credit card is incredibly convenient.

Also I don't think I'd wear full set of pins the park...would get tiring on the neck.

Many times I wear 2 lanyards all day and a sling bag as well. My neck does not get tired. Now, DBF carries a pin book with him and his neck, well it does get tired. LOL That book gets heavy! It has a lot of pins and a cork to stick the pins in for easier trading. :)

ive heard alot on ebay have been fakes be careful at least the one ive gone to for the last 5 years have been real and they dont give me any of the bad pins ive read about. be careful not to get scammed but have alot of fun

Jade, Mousepins has been shipping scrappers in their recent shipments, please be careful when buying from them.

I have to agree! Doing it just because "everyone else does" only perpetuates the problem. Perhaps when you get ready to trade in the park you can look closely at the other persons pins to try and determine if they are fake. If the color is off then don't trade with them?? :confused3 TEach your son that it's ok to be different, especially if he is making the RIGHT choice.

Well, just because someone has scrappers on their lanyard doesn't necessarily mean all they have are scrappers to trade. I have a keeper lanyard with pins that are scrappers, they are cute pins that I like to display, for me it doesn't matter if they are bad because I'm simply wearing them because I like them. :)

I agree.

I had no idea there were fakes until someone informed me yesterday - apparently a lot of the "pining for pins" ones in Disneyland are fakes. Most of my pins are collectables and/or of good value and I wouldn't want to trade them, so I was gonna do the eBay thing but I just don't feel right knowing good and well that I could be giving some unknowing person a fake. I would hope others would feel the same way, but unfortunately a lot don't. Makes pin trading less fun, but I'm more of a collector anyway.

There are a lot of fakes running around, especially on eBay. Unfortunately it is a big problem and many people simply don't care, they just want to save some money to make their trip more affordable. There is helpful info on the Collector's Board and the thread posted earlier is a fabulous resource for those buying pins from eBay. It's a HUGE thread but worth a look.
 
This is going to sound preachy and I am sorry for that, but why not encourage your son to stick to his values? Who cares what 'everyone else' is doing? What better opportunity to teach him could you hope for?

Well said Court ~

Please do not knowingly take your fake pins to the resorts to trade...and again if you bought a "lot" of pins from ebay or a website..chances are, they are fake. I know you want to save a few $$, but c'mon...
 
I always say..to each his own! No two people on these boards is exactly the same..it's what makes us unique. I have been purchasing my pins from the same woman on ebay for several years. She has never sold me a bogus pin (although CM's have warned me that some of the pins I have traded for may be fake:confused3) I see nothing wrong with people purchasing pins on ebay. The woman I purchase from lives in FL and visits WDW often with her family of avid pin traders. She offers me a discount since I always purchase through her. We all save money in different ways, but rest assured, I never ever do anything against DLR policy.:hippie:
 

I'm by no means an avid pin trader, but I have done it a bit and we've come up with some tips that help us.
First of all, you can buy pins on ebay for a cheaper price, but you have to know what you are looking for. You want to be sure you are getting "hidden Mickey" or "cast lanyard" pins. These are the pins worn by cast members, and work great for trading. We bought a lot of 40 pins for about $25 a couple of years ago, and each person got to pick like five. These were just "starter" pins, that we knew we would be trading, so we didn't care what they looked like. I noticed a lot of them were weird anime characters or Club Penguin pins. A CM at WDW told me that a lot of them probably came from some of the Asian parks. So they are still official, just not as desirable in the US.
We took those pins and traded with CMs to get pins we wanted. Then we've bought one or two more pins on each trip, just to remind us of that trip. For example, last Oct. DD3 got Rapunzel, since she was dressed up as her for the Halloween party, and DH and I shared a Jack Skellington and Sally pin set.
You can also get "starter sets" at disneystore.com or at several stores in the parks. They come with a lanyard and four pins, two copies of each. One to trade, and one to keep!
 
Ok one more question!! When searching for pins what does the term "booster" set mean??

I THINK, but am not certain, that the booster set is another way of saying "starter" set. So the one that comes with a lanyard and a set of duplicate pins so you can trade some and keep some. But I might be wrong:confused3
We're not super into pin trading, we mostly use it as something for the kids to do while waiting in line or waiting for a show to start, etc. So we don't have any valuable pins, just ones that we like!
 
I have collected Disney pins since 1988 (glad I have people to trade with now :goodvibes) and I always tell people to "pick a theme" or it gets out of control. For example, my sister collects only Disney cats (actually kind of challenging sometimes) and black and white photo pins (even more challenging). My husband collects Stitch and Mickey from "The Band Concert." I go with Jiminy Cricket (I'm a lawyer so he fits well), and the Three Fairies from Sleeping Beauty. My mother collects Maleficent and my father, Disney military icons (the most specific of all). If you come up with something really special, it becomes like a treasure hunt and a great way to interact with cast members (as long as you don't mob them as I saw the last time at WDW). Remember the rules are different from park to park too (green and black lanyards at WDW and personal pins they don't have to trade at DLP). Have fun :thumbsup2
 
Great tips! :)

I'm by no means an avid pin trader, but I have done it a bit and we've come up with some tips that help us.
First of all, you can buy pins on ebay for a cheaper price, but you have to know what you are looking for. You want to be sure you are getting "hidden Mickey" or "cast lanyard" pins. These are the pins worn by cast members, and work great for trading. We bought a lot of 40 pins for about $25 a couple of years ago, and each person got to pick like five. These were just "starter" pins, that we knew we would be trading, so we didn't care what they looked like. I noticed a lot of them were weird anime characters or Club Penguin pins. A CM at WDW told me that a lot of them probably came from some of the Asian parks. So they are still official, just not as desirable in the US.
We took those pins and traded with CMs to get pins we wanted. Then we've bought one or two more pins on each trip, just to remind us of that trip. For example, last Oct. DD3 got Rapunzel, since she was dressed up as her for the Halloween party, and DH and I shared a Jack Skellington and Sally pin set.
You can also get "starter sets" at disneystore.com or at several stores in the parks. They come with a lanyard and four pins, two copies of each. One to trade, and one to keep!
 
I just checked, and I guess I actually paid about $40 for my 40 pins a few years ago. I think that's probably a good indicator. If you are paying less than a dollar a pin, it might be fishy.
I should dig mine up and find a picture, but official "cast lanyard" pins will have a little Mickey stamp on the front, and be stamped with the official "Disney Pin Trading" stamp and the date on the back. I've also noticed that some of the newer ones have a mouse ear textured pattern on the back, which I'm guessing is another way of making sure they aren't fakes? Anyway, you can buy from ebay, but I'd use the reputable seller list and really do some homework first.
 
I always say..to each his own! No two people on these boards is exactly the same..it's what makes us unique. I have been purchasing my pins from the same woman on ebay for several years. She has never sold me a bogus pin (although CM's have warned me that some of the pins I have traded for may be fake:confused3) I see nothing wrong with people purchasing pins on ebay. The woman I purchase from lives in FL and visits WDW often with her family of avid pin traders. She offers me a discount since I always purchase through her. We all save money in different ways, but rest assured, I never ever do anything against DLR policy.:hippie:


My son would like to know what the name of the vendor you use on eBay? It's hard to find someone reputable. Thank you!

Also, when we went last year my son traded several pins with CM's (good pins he bought at DL) he received scrappers from the CM's. We went through his pins after we figured out how to spot the fake ones. And sure enough, the ones he got in return from the CM's were fake.
 
... but official "cast lanyard" pins will have a little Mickey stamp on the front, and be stamped with the official "Disney Pin Trading" stamp and the date on the back. I've also noticed that some of the newer ones have a mouse ear textured pattern on the back, which I'm guessing is another way of making sure they aren't fakes? ....

The counterfeit and scrapper pins also have these characteristics ... it's not always easy to spot without a thourough inspection which can be impractical.
 
I always say..to each his own! No two people on these boards is exactly the same..it's what makes us unique. I have been purchasing my pins from the same woman on ebay for several years. She has never sold me a bogus pin (although CM's have warned me that some of the pins I have traded for may be fake:confused3) I see nothing wrong with people purchasing pins on ebay. The woman I purchase from lives in FL and visits WDW often with her family of avid pin traders. She offers me a discount since I always purchase through her. We all save money in different ways, but rest assured, I never ever do anything against DLR policy.:hippie:

Well unique is one thing, and yes we are all unique, but trading scrappers isn't being unique, it's breaking the law. Because they are counterfeit pins, just as if you paid full price for a Coach or Dooney & Burke and then found out it was fake, whoever sold you the purse is breaking the law. Now, I'm definitely NOT saying you are trading scrappers, please don't take it that way!! But it would be great if you could share your sellers name, especially as it is difficult to get reputable sellers who sell at lower prices. Also, something to note, if she's trading at the parks then she's probably got some fakes, even my most trusted sellers have sent me scrappers unknowingly, that's probably why some of the CM's are saying you may be trading fakes, because unknowingly you might be. :)

Ok one more question!! When searching for pins what does the term "booster" set mean??

A booster set is similar to a starter set, a starter set comes with a lanyard (either neck or hip) and some pins to trade, a booster set is only pins with no lanyard. Boosters are good for trading but you have to watch because a lot of times the CM's will already have the more common boosters on their lanyards.

I'm by no means an avid pin trader, but I have done it a bit and we've come up with some tips that help us.
First of all, you can buy pins on ebay for a cheaper price, but you have to know what you are looking for. You want to be sure you are getting "hidden Mickey" or "cast lanyard" pins. These are the pins worn by cast members, and work great for trading. We bought a lot of 40 pins for about $25 a couple of years ago, and each person got to pick like five. These were just "starter" pins, that we knew we would be trading, so we didn't care what they looked like. I noticed a lot of them were weird anime characters or Club Penguin pins. A CM at WDW told me that a lot of them probably came from some of the Asian parks. So they are still official, just not as desirable in the US.
We took those pins and traded with CMs to get pins we wanted. Then we've bought one or two more pins on each trip, just to remind us of that trip. For example, last Oct. DD3 got Rapunzel, since she was dressed up as her for the Halloween party, and DH and I shared a Jack Skellington and Sally pin set.
You can also get "starter sets" at disneystore.com or at several stores in the parks. They come with a lanyard and four pins, two copies of each. One to trade, and one to keep!

At $1 or under per pin, you probably purchased scrappers. I'm not saying for sure because I didn't see them, but it is likely that they were not good pins. Club Penguin pins were available for purchase at the parks, as are some of the Anime pins. I like the pins from Japan, they are cool and unique. Pins like that would be highly desirable by many "professional" pin traders, there are quite a few who are always looking for the different pin that no one else has.

My son would like to know what the name of the vendor you use on eBay? It's hard to find someone reputable. Thank you!

Also, when we went last year my son traded several pins with CM's (good pins he bought at DL) he received scrappers from the CM's. We went through his pins after we figured out how to spot the fake ones. And sure enough, the ones he got in return from the CM's were fake.

The counterfeit and scrapper pins also have these characteristics ... it's not always easy to spot without a thourough inspection which can be impractical.

Just an fyi, HM and CL pins are the most scrapped pins out there, so buying those is not always a good indication that they are legit. Also, the Mickey heads on the back, they are not supposed to have a rim around the edge, scrappers generally have a rim. However, I have personally purchased pins from DLR myself that have had a rim around the edge, have had divets in the paint, have had off paint colors, have had surface scratches, all of which are indications of scrappers.......

Edited to add, I am not a professional, I have sold a few pins on eBay but not many, I am simply a trader who got angry at being told every pin she had for trade was garbage so I educated myself and learned everything I could to avoid scrappers. I'm not an expert. :)
 
not one pin from the ones i bought in may were fakes or told couldnt trade. But we will check a few things out still mousepins has never opnce screwed us so i masy just go with them again
 
Hmm, well now you all have me wondering about my pins! I had thought we'd done our homework and gotten some good ones by asking for "hidden Mickeys" and buying from a seller from the DIS list. I guess my consolation is that we don't really trade for valuable pins, just ones we like, so we've probably been trading scrappers for scrappers, if ours weren't legit! I've only ever traded with CMs, and assumed they wouldn't take an unofficial pin?
So now my question is, how can you tell? I thought I was doing the right thing by having mine checked out by the CMs at the Disney Pin Traders at Downtown Disney in WDW, but it sounds like maybe they don't know what they are talking about? I guess the best way is just to bite the bullet and only buy directly from Disney?
 
Hmm, well now you all have me wondering about my pins! I had thought we'd done our homework and gotten some good ones by asking for "hidden Mickeys" and buying from a seller from the DIS list. I guess my consolation is that we don't really trade for valuable pins, just ones we like, so we've probably been trading scrappers for scrappers, if ours weren't legit! I've only ever traded with CMs, and assumed they wouldn't take an unofficial pin?
So now my question is, how can you tell? I thought I was doing the right thing by having mine checked out by the CMs at the Disney Pin Traders at Downtown Disney in WDW, but it sounds like maybe they don't know what they are talking about? I guess the best way is just to bite the bullet and only buy directly from Disney?

Yes, I think the scrappers are getting quite sneaky about their pins, even the CM's are getting where they can hardly tell. But I remember a CM having 2 pins that were slightly off color. When I inquired about the pin he said one of them must be fake, so buyer beware. This was the first time I was aware this even took place. :eek:It is sad that there are people out there always looking to scam someone, just like the fake DLR tickets sold on ebay, etc. But,like many on here, we love the fun in collecting sets. If I have some scrappers in my collection (unbeknownst to me) then so be it. I just do it for fun, not for the value of the pins. It is a great hobby for those visiting! :goodvibes
 
not one pin from the ones i bought in may were fakes or told couldnt trade. But we will check a few things out still mousepins has never opnce screwed us so i masy just go with them again

I don't know how much you know about scrappers and I'm not saying you got bad pins, I'm simply saying there have been reports recently (on the eBay thread) of MPO sending scrappers. I haven't used them in years so I can't confirm or deny, but I do know when I used them years ago they sent me legit pins. :) Also, a CM won't turn down your trade, they will take your pin whether it's tradable or not and many CM's don't know enough about pins to know if what you give them is a scrapper or not. Just being honest about my findings.

Hmm, well now you all have me wondering about my pins! I had thought we'd done our homework and gotten some good ones by asking for "hidden Mickeys" and buying from a seller from the DIS list. I guess my consolation is that we don't really trade for valuable pins, just ones we like, so we've probably been trading scrappers for scrappers, if ours weren't legit! I've only ever traded with CMs, and assumed they wouldn't take an unofficial pin?
So now my question is, how can you tell? I thought I was doing the right thing by having mine checked out by the CMs at the Disney Pin Traders at Downtown Disney in WDW, but it sounds like maybe they don't know what they are talking about? I guess the best way is just to bite the bullet and only buy directly from Disney?

CM's will take just about any pins, official or unofficial, they don't want to cause friction so they just take them, if they suspect it's a scrapper then they simply put it in their pocket. I found that out the hard way. lol It's hard to tell to be completely honest, as I've said many of the pins I've purchased directly from DL have had markers of being scrappers, obviously they were legit but people still told me they were fake. I just use my best judgement and hope I'm right. :)
Try not to worry too much about it, try to just enjoy the experience.
 
Keep in mind too, that you really need to look at both the front and back of the pin. I was trading with a manager, and liked one of his pins, and asked to trade. He inquired if I noticed something different about the coloring of this pin, compared to the ones in the store. It was different, definitely, but I told him it was a character I liked and I didn't mind. Turns out it was a rare Artist's Proof that they produce to check color consistency and shading, and typically they only make a few before they start mass producing them. Turn the pin over and there's a tiny AP in the corner. That's only happened once, but he told me no one was interested in the pin because they thought it was a knock off and said so, so he didn't correct them.
 


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