Survivor - Guatemala

[Alicnwondrln]

I'll be happy with either Rafe or Steph winning. Danni is a strong competitor, but hasn't played a good-enough game to win. Of course, Lydia shouldn't win, either.

However, who will win? There are six possible scenarios for the final two. Who would you guess would vote for whom?

My guesses --

Final Two: Danni, Lydia
Bobby Jon - Danni
Jamie - Danni
Gary - Danni
Judd - Danni
Cindy - Danni
Steph - Danni
Rafe - Danni

Final Two: Danni, Rafe
Bobby Jon - Danni
Jamie - Danni
Gary - Danni
Judd - Danni
Cindy - Danni
Lydia - Danni
Steph - Rafe

Final Two: Danni, Steph
Bobby Jon - Danni
Jamie - Danni
Gary - Danni
Judd - Danni
Cindy - Danni
Lydia - Danni
Rafe - Steph

Final Two: Lydia, Rafe
Bobby Jon - Rafe
Jamie - Lydia
Gary - Rafe
Judd - Rafe
Cindy - Lydia
Danni - Lydia
Steph - Rafe

Final Two: Lydia, Steph
Bobby Jon - Lydia
Jamie - Lydia
Gary - Steph
Judd - Lydia
Cindy - Lydia
Danni - Steph
Rafe - Steph

Final Two: Rafe, Steph
Bobby Jon - Rafe
Jamie - Rafe
Gary - Steph
Judd - Steph
Cindy - Steph
Lydia - Steph
Danni - Rafe

Seems to me that they've left Danni around too long. She's practically unbeatable in the final two, because of all the dead bodies Rafe and Steph have stepped over.

i agree about rafe and steph i mena i cant imagine they jamie judd or cyndi would vote for them they are all mad at them
i mean they are playing the game but some people are so emotional they vote with anger ( i would be mad to )
sunday should be good
also i was shocked cyndi kept the car!

 

[MsLeFever]

I agree with Rafe - I would have given those cars away in a New York minute. It would be very hard to vote someone off that just gave you a car. Besides, given the chance to be that generous I would have to. I mean that in real life (not a game) if I had that choice I would give away the cars. And I agree with whoever said that she might have gotten a car anyway if she'd been generous.

 

[Disney1fan2002]

I totallty agree with that statement. I think Steph and Rafe hung themselves last night. If I were either of them, I would have much rather kept Cindy becuase when it comes down to the final two I would rather be sitting next to someone that was in my alliance and had ticked off just as many people as I did. I think Danni or Lydia have a great shot at winning now.

Seems that Rafe and Danni have a iron-clad alliance. It confused me last night, because I thought Rafe was with the Steph-Judd-Cindy alliance, when did he chum with Danni? Also, when he went on the reward with CIndy, didn't he say that broght them super-close?

Anyhoo...all Rafe needs to do is win immunity at the next challenge, he can get Danni and Lydia to vote off Steph. He promised Danni to go to the final 2 with her, so I see no other way Steph would not be gone if she doesn't win immunity. There is no way she can talk the 2 girls into getting rid of Rafe. My point is, Rafe did not hang himself, he shifted the power from Steph to him. He has Danni and Lydia wrapped around his finger. With how Steph has treated Lydia, there ain't no way she is going to be able to swing her vote.

 

[RUDisney]

There were 4 cars left in Guatemala. I think if Cindy hadn't been selfish, she'd have gotten the car anyway for her selflessness and it would have helped her in the vote.

Up until the auction, I didn't care who won... except for Lydia. Since then, I really want Danni to win. She's the only one who has her game face on.

 

[bicker]

My point is, Rafe did not hang himself, he shifted the power from Steph to him.

Only the power to get himself into the Final Three, which he could have also obtained by winning immunity. He didn't really do himself any favors with regard to winning the $1M, since he has seriously endangered his chances of getting Cindy's vote -- he basically needs to ensure he doesn't bring Danni to the Final Two now.

 

[jenks0718]

I dont think Steph has a shot to win this. If she does I will be surprised. I was actually rooting for her, but when she did that to Judd I got turned off by her. Now she just seems annoying.

I know that Bobby John, Jaime, Judd, and Cindy are not voting for her. I dont even think Gary will.

I also think that Cindy should have kept that car. There is no loyalty there. I can see it now she gives them a car and then they vote her off. I am glad she kept it. Just like Judd lets his "Jersey Girl" bring her man to camp and the next night she votes him off. There is no loyalty.

I cant wait until next week though. If Steph wins I will be AMAZED

 

[bicker]

Just to be clear: The last episode is (this coming) SUNDAY, not THURSDAY.

 

[4greatboys]

The bottom line on suvivor is its every man for himself. Even if she gave away the cars Cindy was still a threat to the million and probably would have been voted off anyway. I would have kept the car myself too. Alliances are broken on there all the time. Then she would have been out and without a car.
I liked Steph better last night. She didnt seem to have that attitude she had been having.
I do think if Cindy maybe had taken Danni this time (she took Rafe before) maybe she could have gotten something going with them.

 

[jenks0718]

Just to be clear: The last episode is (this coming) SUNDAY, not THURSDAY.

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!

I thought it was Thursday! I would have missed it!

 

[Beth76]

There were 4 cars left in Guatemala. I think if Cindy hadn't been selfish, she'd have gotten the car anyway for her selflessness and it would have helped her in the vote.

Not sure what you mean by 4 cars left in Guatamala. And I don't think it's fair to call Cindy selfish. She earned that car. And she knew that was no guarantee for the mil. If she had given up the cars and hadn't won the mil, she would have nothing to show for. She's a zookeeper and probably can't afford a brand new car and probably will never win anything like that again.

Now, I believe that Rafe would have given up the car. I really do. Do I think Rafe is a better person for it? No. That was a hard decision to make. If I had been a contestant, I would have told Cindy to keep the car and not make pleading faces with her. Also, if I had won the car, I wouldn't have come back to camp and gloated about it.

 

[Disney1fan2002]

I dont think Steph has a shot to win this. If she does I will be surprised. I was actually rooting for her, but when she did that to Judd I got turned off by her. Now she just seems annoying.

I know that Bobby John, Jaime, Judd, and Cindy are not voting for her. I dont even think Gary will.

I also think that Cindy should have kept that car. There is no loyalty there. I can see it now she gives them a car and then they vote her off. I am glad she kept it. Just like Judd lets his "Jersey Girl" bring her man to camp and the next night she votes him off. There is no loyalty.

I cant wait until next week though. If Steph wins I will be AMAZED

I argued this with my DH alst night. he thinks she should of kept the car, and that she was right, no guarantee's. She could of given up the car, and they still could of voted her off.

My point was, she was not a target! Danni was the target, and she had an alliance, why would she believe they would break their alliance to vote her off, ESPECIALLY after she won the car. Like Rafe said, if someone had given me a brand new vehicle, it would be VERY HARD to write that person's name down. I also think, that with the exception of Steph, their personalities would of kept her in the game. They would of genuinely appreciated the car, and she could of skated to the final 2. Now, Steph did not have to write her name down. She knew Cindy was going, she had Rafe, Danni and Lydia's vote....all Steph had to say was she can't write her name down, because she took her on the reward, and the rest would of understood. What does that tell you about Steph? God! I can't believe I liked her. I think Steph would vote her own mother off the Island.

I also could not believe how much she gloated about the car. I truly beleive if she came back from the reward, and apologized over and over about keeping it, and at least acted like she was tormented by her decision, she may still be in the game. But to NOT give them a car, and then come back and just gush over what they DON'T have ....not smart. She even continued to gush at TC. Jeff asked her about the reward, she could of said how interesting the Archeologist was, instead all she could say was how she couldn't kepp her eyes off her car.

If I ever play the game of Survivor....I am going to live by TWO rules.....NEVER leave camp for a reward...throw the challenge, or give it away of you win. And NEVER EVER gloat about a reward.

 

[RUDisney]

Not sure what you mean by 4 cars left in Guatamala. And I don't think it's fair to call Cindy selfish. She earned that car. And she knew that was no guarantee for the mil. If she had given up the cars and hadn't won the mil, she would have nothing to show for. She's a zookeeper and probably can't afford a brand new car and probably will never win anything like that again.

Now, I believe that Rafe would have given up the car. I really do. Do I think Rafe is a better person for it? No. That was a hard decision to make. If I had been a contestant, I would have told Cindy to keep the car and not make pleading faces with her. Also, if I had won the car, I wouldn't have come back to camp and gloated about it.

At the end of the episode, a commercial came on and said that you could win one of the 4 cars that were left in Guatemala... blah, blah, blah. To me, that means that one of the cars was given to Cindy and the remaining 4 were not given away, hence, if Cindy had given the others a car, in pure Burnett style, she would have been rewarded for her generosity and been able to keep a car, too.

I stick by my initial statement that Cindy was selfish in keeping the car. Any time we can give to others but choose to keep it for ourselves, we are selfish. That's not necessarily a bad thing, or the wrong decision, just how it is.

 

[BibbidiBobbidiBOO]

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!

I thought it was Thursday! I would have missed it!

Wow, thank you from me too! I was thinking Thursday at this point in time!

I will scream if Steph wins. She seems to think she is more worthy and deserving, IMHO. Does she not realize lots of other people have left Survivor having never won anything?? I am all for Rafe!!

 

[BibbidiBobbidiBOO]

At the end of the episode, a commercial came on and said that you could win one of the 4 cars that were left in Guatemala... blah, blah, blah. To me, that means that one of the cars was given to Cindy and the remaining 4 were not given away, hence, if Cindy had given the others a car, in pure Burnett style, she would have been rewarded for her generosity and been able to keep a car, too.

I told DH the same thing. I figured she would get one too if she gave the others one. Who knows for sure though.

 

[avdeane]

I think if Cindy would have had more time to think about things she may have chosen differently. After thinking about it, I thought the perfect solution would have been for her to say she was giving the others the cars but if by some chance she wasn't the winner of a million, the person that won should give her the car they got. That way she got into their good graces. Not that there was guarantee that she would get a car if she didn't win, but it's very possible.

 

[declansdad]

She should have given the cars away if se was really playing the game. Someone like Oprah would have given her one for being so nice.


Now this is easy for me to say, I wasn't in the situation.

 

[robinb]

What is the difference in prize money between 5th place and 4th place? I wonder if it's more than the price of the car. Of course, she didn't have any time to think about it. I really don't blame her for keeping the car as she does not have a car at home. I do blame her for going on and on about the car. BUT ... you never know. Someone may have prompted her to talk about the car just to annoy the other players. She seemed oblivious to the looks on Rafe and Danni's faces.

 

[airhead]

gimme some cheese with that whine!!! Geesh! I think Lydia is playing a great game. She's kept a low(very low) profile and look where she is! Playing to win
competitions isn't always the best way. The goal of this game is to be the last one standing,NO matter how you do it. I think she's one of the few who hasn't pissed anyone off,she works around camp,she's always in a good mood.
Why shouldn't she win??? If she gets to the final 2 with Stephanie,she will win!!

 

[PooohBear]

I think if Cindy would have had more time to think about things she may have chosen differently. After thinking about it, I thought the perfect solution would have been for her to say she was giving the others the cars but if by some chance she wasn't the winner of a million, the person that won should give her the car they got. That way she got into their good graces. Not that there was guarantee that she would get a car if she didn't win, but it's very possible.

Excellent point !

 

[krdisneybound]

It was really a touch all for Cindy. I think she did the right thing. But then again we weren't in her shoes. I'm glad she got a new car. AND that leaves four others to get a new car through the dealerships