Survivor - Guatemala

[Disney1fan2002]

I think we are going to see a rant from Judd at the final vote and finale that will put Sue Hawk's in a distant second.

It's looking like both Steph and Lydia have a chance at the final two because any of the others would get more votes.

I would be happy to see Steph get second prize money. I think she is a good player. Lydia on the other hand is still IMO the most worthless survivor ever.

I really don't see Steph in the final 2. If Rafe and Danni were smart, they would get Lydia to help vote off Steph, then Cindy.

Rafe is closer to Cindy though, but Rafe needs to make a move. 3 votes will get rid of Steph. If Steph does make it to the end, she derserves to win, if only because of the stupidity of the rest of the tribe. Lydia seems to be the only one who sees how powerful Steph has become, yet she can only do so much on her own.

I disagree that Lydia has been riding coat tails. She does a good job of stirring things up when she has to, and still coming out sweet and innocent. That is master game play.

 

[CarolinaBlue]

In my opinion, Steph does need to go. She has been calling the shots far too long.

I totally agree.

 

[cardaway]

I really don't see Steph in the final 2. If Rafe and Danni were smart, they would get Lydia to help vote off Steph, then Cindy.

I believe Steph can beat everybody but Rafe at any physical challenge. I see every challenge from this point on having at least some physical elements. For that reason I see her sticking around because of immunity. Sadly that may end with Rafe going home. If Steph beats him she may be able to convince the others that he has to go.

I disagree that Lydia has been riding coat tails. She does a good job of stirring things up when she has to, and still coming out sweet and innocent. That is master game play.

IMO Lydia hasn't even picked up a spoon. Her lame "if you need my vote" play was very typical, and IMO, is nothing but being a clinger.

 

[Disney1fan2002]

I see every challenge from this point on having at least some physical elements.

Typically, in past Survivor's the end challenges are more mental, because the players are physically drained. There should be one endurance challenge left, and usually the IC that decides the final 2 is a Q&A.

Rafe can beat Steph hands down in a mental challenge, and this may be where Lydia can get to the end. She seems pretty sharp.

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

I don't quite get the logic behind not telling Cindy, if anything Lydia would have been the one to jump ship, but at least she should be spared his rath if she does make it to the final two.

They probably thought that she might of felt that she owed Judd something for bringing her twin sister in last night. You know how the show works...when the winners of the reward challenges are away enjoying themselves, the rest of the tribe plots their demise!! I think they'll get Cindy back in the fold next week without a problem and give lydia the boot.

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

I think we are going to see a rant from Judd at the final vote and finale that will put Sue Hawk's in a distant second.

Do you think he's smart enough to put together a decent tear? I sure don't! When he compaired seeing his wife with eating 25 White Castle burgers last night, my wife turned to me and said "What a moron!".

 

[cardaway]

Typically, in past Survivor's the end challenges are more mental, because the players are physically drained. There should be one endurance challenge left, and usually the IC that decides the final 2 is a Q&A.

Rafe can beat Steph hands down in a mental challenge, and this may be where Lydia can get to the end. She seems pretty sharp.

We'll see. I seem to remember there always being some kind of "best of other challenges" challenge near the end that always includes both physical and mental. Have they had that yet?

Personally I can't find anything wrong with anybody being in the final two except Lydia. Any other way and I'll be happy at this point.

 

[Cyndirella]

Personally I can't find anything wrong with anybody being in the final two except Lydia. Any other way and I'll be happy at this point.

I agree. I don't like Steph as much as I did last season, but I would rather see her there than Lydia. Something about her annoys the heck out of me.

I like Danni, Rafe, and Cindy and wouldn't mind seeing any of them win.

 

[cardaway]

Do you think he's smart enough to put together a decent tear? I sure don't! When he compaired seeing his wife with eating 25 White Castle burgers last night, my wife turned to me and said "What a moron!".

Who said anything about smart.

 

[Disney1fan2002]

For those who don't like Lydia, but like Cindy, can you tell me what Cindy has done to earn her spot?

We all have our own opinions on who deserves what. But, IMO, Lydia has done a heck of a lot mor e in this game than past "coat tail" riders. I just don't see that she is under the radar. To me, someone "under the radar" is a person who is there, but their name never comes up. So they get to the end by keeping quiet, and going along with the majority. Lydia's name has come up EVERY WEEK since the 2nd 3rd or 4th week. yet, she managed to escape being voted off. She is obviously doing something right in the game.

Cindy is the definition of "under the radar" I didn't even know her name until 3 weeks ago.

 

[Beth76]

For those who don't like Lydia, but like Cindy, can you tell me what Cindy has done to earn her spot?

Cindy's really good at challenges. Lydia is not. Not that I base my opinion solely on that, but I don't believe anyone who has not won a challenge should become Sole Survivor.

 

[cardaway]

For those who don't like Lydia, but like Cindy, can you tell me what Cindy has done to earn her spot?

Back when it was tribe vs. tribe Cindy was a valuable asset in challenges. IMO that counts for something. Can't say the same for Lydia.

I also see Cindy in the groups helping make decisions, not just going along with them. Once again, IMO there's a difference.

 

[Cyndirella]

For those who don't like Lydia, but like Cindy, can you tell me what Cindy has done to earn her spot?

We all have our own opinions on who deserves what. But, IMO, Lydia has done a heck of a lot mor e in this game than past "coat tail" riders. I just don't see that she is under the radar. To me, someone "under the radar" is a person who is there, but their name never comes up. So they get to the end by keeping quiet, and going along with the majority. Lydia's name has come up EVERY WEEK since the 2nd 3rd or 4th week. yet, she managed to escape being voted off. She is obviously doing something right in the game.

Cindy is the definition of "under the radar" I didn't even know her name until 3 weeks ago.

I don't argue with the fact that Cindy is under the radar, I just like her more than I like Lydia. Lydia annoys me, it has nothing to do with the way she has played the game.

 

[RUDisney]

I don't argue with the fact that Cindy is under the radar, I just like her more than I like Lydia. Lydia annoys me, it has nothing to do with the way she has played the game.

Could it be that Cindy is prettier than Lydia?

Several years ago, my DH and I were on a snorkeling cruise and there was a pretty skinny girl and a plain heavy girl on the boat... both sick. Everyone was very concerned about the pretty girl heaving over the side, but when the heavy girl got sick, everyone was ewwing. Now the skinny girl could squeeze between the side rail and the boat so no one could see what she was doing. The heavy girl couldn't and therefore everyone got to hear and see what she was doing.

Seemed to me to be a pretty good test of what really happens in the world... we tend to cheer for the prettier people. Just wondering if that is why Cindy would get more votes than Lydia... (who is by no means ugly.)

No need to answer, my question is more rhetorical in nature.

 

[Kirby]

There is more to Lydia than meets the eye. Last night she was the one that got Judd to talking so Danni could go around and gossip about what he said. Lydia's playing the game, just not as physically as others.

 

[cardaway]

No need to answer, my question is more rhetorical in nature.

Actually it read like quite the accusation.

BTW, IMO Lydia is pretty cute. Dani is the babe of the tribe, even after the extreme weight loss.

 

[Jimbo]

I thought the funniest moment last night was when they dismissed the three family members that didn't get to stay. Rafe was sobbing and Lydia was tearing up. Danni, OTOH, looked up from her cheesesteak for a second, gave a little wave, and started tearing into the sandwich again. I thought that was hilarious!

 

[RUDisney]

Actually it read like quite the accusation.

BTW, IMO Lydia is pretty cute. Dani is the babe of the tribe, even after the extreme weight loss.

Sorry, not meant to be accusatory... just an observation of human nature.

 

[Cyndirella]

Could it be that Cindy is prettier than Lydia?

For me, that has nothing to do with it.

I thought the funniest moment last night was when they dismissed the three family members that didn't get to stay. Rafe was sobbing and Lydia was tearing up. Danni, OTOH, looked up from her cheesesteak for a second, gave a little wave, and started tearing into the sandwich again. I thought that was hilarious!

I noticed that too!

 

[Alice28]

Cindy's really good at challenges. Lydia is not. Not that I base my opinion solely on that, but I don't believe anyone who has not won a challenge should become Sole Survivor.

But this has happened several times before! I clearly remember Sondra not winning any immunity challenges (nor a reward challenge that I can recall) and she won the game; I think Tina was the same way. How about Vecepia? She may have won immunity once I think. It's about outwitting too, and sometimes that means hanging back and letting others have the spotlight of winning the challenges!