Summer 2024 Direct Incentives

[HyperspaceMountainPilot]

This is what I meant. Pay for it out of the marketing budget, not dues.

I would be sad if we had fewer MM or lounges or member appreciation perks so that golf carts could included with the cabins.

 

[eticketplease]

For someone who only owns resale contracts, when Disney does these incentives would they be considered as "New Buyer Discount" or "Current Member Discount"?

I think I saw somewhere that you now have to be a member for a year before qualifying for the current member pricing.

 

[VGCgroupie]

I think I saw somewhere that you now have to be a member for a year before qualifying for the current member pricing.

As of last month when I bought you don’t have to be a member for a year.

 

[davidhr]

I think I saw somewhere that you now have to be a member for a year before qualifying for the current member pricing.

That’s for the lowest financing rate without credit check. Member pricing is available as soon as you’re a member. Some people have even said they have received member pricing after getting ROFR, but I can’t confirm that.

 

[eticketplease]

As of last month when I bought you don’t have to be a member for a year.

I must have heard it from a Bus driver.

Thanks to you and @davidhr for getting the correct info.

 

[CastAStone]

I think I saw somewhere that you now have to be a member for a year before qualifying for the current member pricing.

You did see that somewhere. The usually very good My DVC Points podcast said that recently and confused a bunch of people. It’s wrong.

The only 1 year thing is auto qualification for their best financing rates (you can still qualify for them before being a member for a year, but you’ll need a credit check).

 

[Sandisw]

I think I saw somewhere that you now have to be a member for a year before qualifying for the current member pricing.

It is the better finance rate that requires a year of ownership….assuming even that is in effect still.

 

[dkbnyc]

Riviera for non members dropped the Welcome Home credit by $250 only for the 250* point level, everything else seems the same. Very random.

*Edited to fix my typo on the point amount

i just bought riviera, the chart the guide showed me is not the same as this one posted, even though the dates of June 25 to sept 30 are the same. My Incentive per point credit is only `13, the chart linked here is 17, among other differences. I wonder why mine is different

 

[supercarrie]

i just bought riviera, the chart the guide showed me is not the same as this one posted, even though the dates of June 25 to sept 30 are the same. My Incentive per point credit is only `13, the chart linked here is 17, among other differences. I wonder why mine is different

$17 per point is the discount for members adding on. $13 per point is the discount for new members. I assume you are a new DVC member?

Welcome home!

 

[dkbnyc]

$17 per point is the discount for members adding on. $13 per point is the discount for new members. I assume you are a new DVC member?

Welcome home!

yes, thank you. I just now noticed that little difference in the chart.

 

[Brian Noble]

Pay for it out of the marketing budget, not dues.

Timeshare developers are not fond of putting ongoing costs on the marketing budget.

I stand by my opinion that CFW is not meant to be a "normal" DVC resort, but a way to hedge against a capital referesh that had to happen anyway. I also think that's only a short term problem, because I think Son Of Reflections will be folded into the same association, pushing the dues cost down and spreading demand over more unit types. For whatever reason, Disney decided to replace the cabins first, and this is the result.

 

[eticketplease]

I think Son Of Reflections will be folded into the same association, pushing the dues cost down and spreading demand over more unit types.

You think they will go down or just remain constant/very minimal increases for a period of time?

 

[WinterSolider]

Where I would start, BTW, is including the golf cart for free for DVC owners staying on points.

I know they CAN'T do it, but what I wish they could do would be to just make them bookable with points for like 2 to 3 points per night.

 

[Brian Noble]

You think they will go down or just remain constant/very minimal increases for a period of time?

I can't think of any fundamental reason why the cost to maintain and operate a Fort cabin is any different from those at CCV or Poly. But the number of points per cabin is significantly lower, so the cost-per-point is correspondingly higher. If a tower-like-substance is built, those point charts will look a lot more like, say, VWL, and the costs to maintain them will likewise be similar. The lower cost-per-point of the tower-like-substance will be averaged in with the cabins.

Whether that results in a year-over-year decrease, or just a freeze on increases, I can't say. It depends a little on how the cabin dues evolve between now and then, etc. etc. But either way, I believe that this resort will no longer be such an outlier in dues over time---and it is the long game that matters to an owner.

 

[WinterSolider]

I can't think of any fundamental reason why the cost to maintain and operate a Fort cabin is any different from those at CCV or Poly. But the number of points per cabin is significantly lower, so the cost-per-point is correspondingly higher. If a tower-like-substance is built, those point charts will look a lot more like, say, VWL, and the costs to maintain them will likewise be similar. The lower cost-per-point of the tower-like-substance will be averaged in with the cabins.

Whether that results in a year-over-year decrease, or just a freeze on increases, I can't say. It depends a little on how the cabin dues evolve between now and then, etc. etc. But either way, I believe that this resort will no longer be such an outlier in dues over time---and it is the long game that matters to an owner.

I think it's actually likely that the cost to maintain and operate the cabins would be lower on a per-unit basis than more "hard" infrastructure like a tower. Swapping out pre-fab trailers for fresh ones every 25 years has to be cheaper than gutting villas every 14, no?

 

[Brian Noble]

But the figure of merit is cost-per-point, not cost-per-unit or per-structure.

 

[eticketplease]

I think it's actually likely that the cost to maintain and operate the cabins would be lower on a per-unit basis than more "hard" infrastructure like a tower. Swapping out pre-fab trailers for fresh ones every 25 years has to be cheaper than gutting villas every 14, no?

Don't forget about the weather!! Remember when there are warnings about storms Disney has moved people from Ft. Wilderness, the Poly bungalows and the Cascade Cabins.

The towers are built to withstand a beating but I'm not sure what grade these cabins would stand up to in regards to damage from storms.

 

[WinterSolider]

But the figure of merit is cost-per-point, not cost-per-unit or per-structure.

Yes I was agreeing with and reinforcing your point, not debating it.

 

[Brian Noble]

Ah, my bad. I am in "teaching mode" and my students are in debating mood today! Mea culpa.

 

[jess2022]

For someone who only owns resale contracts, when Disney does these incentives would they be considered as "New Buyer Discount" or "Current Member Discount"?

Also, a guide just told me that the $20/pt sell-back do not apply to foreign buyers..

You get member pricing as soon as your resale has gone through and you have a member ID number. If you are financing with Disney, you don't get member financing rates until you are a member for one year.