Streep trashes Walt Disney - I knew there was a reason not to go to her movies.

[hookedonears]

Soap box. Hollywood has gotten too big for their britches. These stars like Streep, who are given un-due platforms to spout their opinions about subjects they, in most cases know very little about, goes along way in swaying opinions of allot of people who idolize these stars strictly for the stardom. It needs to stop. Unfortunately, the studio bosses, in most cases are their biggest cheer leaders. If enough people would quit going to the movies of these stars like Streep, or quit watching their televisions shows, and it starts affecting the studios' bottom dollars. The studio bosses will tell them to shut their pie holes. Okay off the soap box.

 

[kbelle8995]

It's also easy to trash someone when they are no longer living and can't defend themselves.

And if you want to read about horrid studios CEOs look at people like Louis B. Mayer or the Warner Brothers.

I respect Streep as an actress but I disagree with her greatly. I think that a lot of media have a negative responce to Disney. I read a couple weeks someone having a opinion about Saving Mr. Banks and trashing Disney. He also said he would like to see a world where kids didn't go to Disney animated films. He ignored that fact that if it wasn't for Disney he wouldn't have any animated flicks to speak of. Disney was the first to prove that you can make an animated films for over an hour and people will come to see them.

I am not one of those people who think Disney is perfect but come on. It's like he's supposed to be a saint and everyone else is allowed to be "complicated."

 

[Pooh2]

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[hookedonears]

It's also easy to trash someone when they no longer living and can't defend themselves.

And if you want to read about horrid studios CEOs look at people like Louis B. Mayer or the Warner Brothers.

I respect Streep as an actress but I disagree with her greatly.

She may have been right, or she may have been wrong, but the damage has been done, and people who may know the whole story are not given the same platform as she has as a star.

 

[kbelle8995]

The people who listen and support this were is most cases looking for reasons to support their beliefs.

People who hate Disney will always look for things that support their beliefs and will never listen to someone who likes Disney.

And I have read a comment that any grown up who wants to go to a Disney park without a child must be a molester. Now that made me angry.

On the plus side she's not getting a lot of publicity out of this. I googled it and only a handful covered it.

 

[mdvlprof]

She needs to get over it.

Different era. Public views about race/gender/sexuality have evolved. WD was from the era in which he grew up.

 

[DisneyKevin]

Other sources has referenced Walt as being anti-Semitic and Ward Kimball suggesting that Walt didnt trust women is a fairly reliable source.

I'm not entirely sure why this opinion was included in a tribute to Emma Thompson, but there seems to supporting information to suggest that what she said is not incorrect.

As for Walt being a "saint"....well, I think that makes him far less interesting than the more complex and human person he surely was....faults and all.

 

[hookedonears]

Other sources has referenced Walt as being anti-Semitic and Ward Kimball suggesting that Walt didnt trust women is a fairly reliable source.

I'm not entirely sure why this opinion was included in a tribute to Emma Thompson, but there seems to supporting information to suggest that what she said is not incorrect.

As for Walt being a "saint"....well, I think that makes him far less interesting than the more complex and human person he surely was....faults and all.

As another poster wrote, I've heard these same things, but have a few questions? How long ago was that? And how long has he been dead? And is he here to defend himself? And are others who may tell a different story given the same platform to defend him? I guess my point is, that actors in Hollywood need to do what they're paid to do, and quit using there UN-DUE UN-FAIR platforms spout opinions. They can to contribute to women's rights groups all they want to, which is great. I've contributed to a few myself, but Influencing others by their Un-due platforms is wrong.

 

[hookedonears]

Actors like Sean Penn should be given a platform to speak, because he's worked, and put his heart into his causes, and he knows what he's talking about. Many of these others are just letting people know that they are a part of the cool club, trying to make the fans, the commoners, the little people believe that they care.

 

[DisneyKevin]

As another poster wrote, I've heard these same things, but have a few questions? How long ago was that? And how long has he been dead? And is he here to defend himself? And are others who may tell a different story given the same platform to defend him? I guess my point is, that actors in Hollywood need to do what they're paid to do, and quit using there UN-DUE UN-FAIR platforms spout opinions. They can to contribute to women's rights groups all they want, which is great. I've contributed to a few myself, but Influencing others by their Un-due platforms is wrong.

I would guess that a vast majority of people didn't listen to or read what Meryl Streep said.

Of those who did....I would guess the vast majority don't care what Meryl Steep thinks of Walt Disney.

And those that did listen or read Meryl's opinion and are swayed by her opinion of Walt Disney without doing any research...are sheep. Next week they may be swayed by Justin Bieber or a Kardashian.

As for spouting opinions of people that have passed.....dont we all do that?

From what I'm gathering....you seem to think Meryl's opinion was wrong and uncalled for...so you must hold Walt Disney in a higher regard.

What makes your opinion (or mine, or anyone else's) more valid than Meryl's?

None of us knew him personally, so our opinions are based on what we hear, what we see and what we read.

Please know that I am not defending Meryl Streep. I couldn't care less about her opinion of Walt Disney....or anything else for that matter.

i enjoy her movies, but she doesn't color my opinions one way or another.

 

[DisneyKevin]

Actors like Sean Penn should be given a platform to speak, because he's worked, and put his heart into his causes, and he knows what he's talking about. Many of these others are just letting people know that they are a part of the cool club, trying to make the fans, the commoners, the little people believe that they care.

Do you think Meryl Streep needs to make comments about Walt Disney to be part of a "cool club"?

I think she's usually fairly quiet about her interests and affiliations.

 

[hookedonears]

Do you think Meryl Streep needs to make comments about Walt Disney to be part of a "cool club"?

I think she's usually fairly quiet about her interests and affiliations.

Kevin, your wisdom, experience and intelligence precludes you from being influenced by actors such as her, but there are too many younger, more easily influenced people who idolize Hollywood stars, and want to emulate them, and believe what ever they say is gospel. And it’s just not right.

 

[kbelle8995]

Other sources has referenced Walt as being anti-Semitic and Ward Kimball suggesting that Walt didnt trust women is a fairly reliable source.

I'm not entirely sure why this opinion was included in a tribute to Emma Thompson, but there seems to supporting information to suggest that what she said is not incorrect.

As for Walt being a "saint"....well, I think that makes him far less interesting than the more complex and human person he surely was....faults and all.

ITA.

 

[DisneyKevin]

Kevin, your wisdom, experience and intelligence precludes you from being influenced by actors such as her, but there are too many younger, more easily influenced people who idolize Hollywood stars, and want to emulate them, and believe what ever they say is gospel. And it’s just not right.

I think you flatter Meryl Streep (and Sean Penn) by suggesting that they have younger, easily influenced fans.

If it's the younger and easily influenced folks you are thinking about, I would suggest that we worry about the messages being put out by Bieber, Lohan, Kardashian, Cyrus, Rhianna et al.

Suggesting that misbehavior (often illegal) is something to be emulated and something that can be brushed off or easily fixed and / or that the only really important thing in life is being famous, is far more dangerous than Meryl Streep pointing out Walt Disney's alleged faults.

But again...this is just an opinion.

 

[DisneyKevin]

I would also ask what harm comes from Meryl Streep suggesting that Walt Disney was anti-Semitic or that he didn't trust women.

How do you think this will effect the "younger and easily influenced"?

I don't know that this will cause a crowd of young Disney haters...and what if it does?

Maybe this will relieve some of the congestion in the parks.

 

[hookedonears]

I would also ask what harm comes from Meryl Streep suggesting that Walt Disney was anti-Semitic or that he didn't trust women.

How do you think this will effect the "younger and easily influenced"?

I don't know that this will cause a crowd of young Disney haters...and what if it does?

Maybe this will relieve some of the congestion in the parks.

I don't know what her purpose was. It was a suspicion that was widely known, so what good was going to come out of her statements? What was she trying to gain? As a recent Secretary of State once said; at this point, what does it matter?

 

[jcb]

I'm in complete agreement with Kevin - just wishing I had said it as well as he did.

What I wonder is whether folks feel the same about statements by celebrities such as Mel Gibson, Clint Eastwood or Ted Nugent. Is your position on celebrities, in other words, more than a matter of disagreeing with Ms. Steep's alleged view point or is it a matter of truly thinking that all celebrities. no matter what the view point, should never use their fleeting fame to espouse their views.

 

[DisneyKevin]

I don't know what her purpose was. It was a suspicion that was widely known, so what good was going to come out of her statements? What was she trying to gain? As a recent Secretary of State once said; at this point, what does it matter?

I often share my opinions (whether people want them or not is another discussion) without looking to gain anything.

And...if it doesn't matter...what are we doing?

 

[SamSam]

Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion but I have trouble with Meryl using her status and the venue to state her opinion about such a topic. She was there basically to honor another actor and I feel her statements detracted from that.

Walt, as many during the period of time that Meryl was referencing, held views that they did not hold years later. People grow and change through the years, as I personally believe Walt did (as did many others). I grew up in the 50's and 60's and most men I was exposed to ( including my dad) did not think of women as being capable of holding positions that had formerly been held 'mostly' by men. I'm tallking in general, not every male had that opinion but that's certainly what I 'felt' growing up.

 

[hookedonears]

I often share my opinions (whether people want them or not is another discussion) without looking to gain anything.

And...if it doesn't matter...what are we doing?

Me to, as you well know.