SSR Annual Meeting - 12/01/05

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Since we arrived too late for the OKW meeting yesterday, we attended the SSR meeting this afternoon.

As others have already reported on the upcoming DDP program for DVC members, I won't repeat that info but will comment on some of the other discussion. There was a pretty large audience- I'd guess it was over 200 members. Total DVC membership is over 95,000 right now and they anticipate reaching 100K in 2006.

Per usual procedure, the DVC Board of Directors meeting lasted about 5 minutes and was tightly scripted. Immediarely following, the DVC members meeting was convened as was also a tightly scripted event. There was an opportunity for members in attendance to ask questions about the proposed 2006 budget before an actual vote was taken. The vote was made by the unit representative and not by those in attendance. The SSR budget was approved as submitted and the '06 dues will be $3.98. The operating budget is actually a little lower than 2005 on a per point basis, but the projected Ad Valorem Taxes are higher, thus the increase over 2005. The questions from the audience were responded to and Jim Lewis directed the board to include actual budget numbers for the preceding year in the future when the proposal is sent out so we, as owners, can better compare the increases. They did explain that for SSR, the increase in transportation is based on the number of stops made in the resort- two stops have been added recently in the Paddock area. The transportation budget is based on time spent in the resort by the buses. OKW has 5 stops and SSR will eventually have more than that in all likelyhood. Fuel increases were also responsible for some of the increase. The developer subsidy will be in place at least thru 2006. They are ahead of construction schedule and expect the Phase III buildings to be open in early 2007. Phase I and II are both complete at this time with all 12 buildings open now.

The Turf Club will be expanded to offer table service dining at the resort. Artist sketches were on display of the new restaurant. Two more pools will be included and another pool bar.

Also to be added in the near future at SSR will be horsedrawn carriage rides- in keeping with the theme for the resort.

Jim Lewis made comments about the upcoming improvements to the DVC website- before the end of this year we will have the ability to view our reservation history online and pay dues. In the spring and by the end of 2006 they hope to add more functionality including the ability to make mortgage payments online as well as banking/borrowing transactions. He was asked about making reservations online and replied that will be a goal, but no timeline has been set. He underscored the challenges with the reservation system- room availability both from cash (CRO) and member inventory, points being used for non-DVC options freeing up more cash availability, banking/borrowing, etc. He acknowledged that many other timeshares offer online capability (most are outsourced), but few have the same needs as DVC regarding the issues already outlined.

He also mentioned that they will be addressing MS hours and will be making changes to those hours. He emphasized the need to balance additional hours with our dues and questions from the audience about those living in CA and overseas served to illustrate the issues he had already outlined. Having MS open 24/7 would be a very expensive operation. He suggested that Sat hours were a likelyhood. (Stay Tuned!!)

Jim Lewis is a vibrant personality and seems like a great cheerleader for DVC. I look forward to his leadership in the coming years. The meeting lasted about 90 minutes and there was ample time afterwards to talk with individuals if desired. I was able to speak with Jim Lewis, Sonya Deese-Byrnes and Lynn Mitchell briefly afterwards before heading over to the Merry Member Mixer (report on the Planning Board).

I apologize if any of this is a repeat of earlier posts. I'm sure I've left out many things and will try to add them if/when they come to memory. If there are any questions, please ask.
 
Since one of the reasons listed for the dues going up is the increase in buses, was anything said about doing something with people parking for free at Downtown Disney and walking to SSR to ride the bus? I don't want our dues to just skyrocket because of this problem.
 
Thanks Doc, we appreciate your report and input.

First I've heard of the carriage rides but I think it would be a real treat. Are horses and street sweepers more expensive than the buses? Do you think they would charge for the carriage rides? That would help offset the expenses.

I do hope the online service and MS extended hours becomes a reality. With the online services, that should cut down on manpower needed at MS and maybe no increase will be necessary. Of course creating the system is expensive in the beginning but that could be absorbed within a 1 to 2 year period, then even out.

Thoughts anyone?

Tom :sunny:
 
There was no mention or question about non-guests riding the SSR buses. My personal feeling is that, at this time, it is a non-issue since the SSR buses are rarely filled anyway (except possibly at park closing) and any extra riders don't add any expense for buses already scheduled for the resort. I think that most of any non-guest transportation from DD is spread out among the resorts near parks anyway and is not unique to SSR. While it could affect bus seats in the future, at this time it appears to be of minimal inconvenience for SSR guests.

No mention was made regarding whether the carriage rides will be gratis or fee based - I would think there would be a fee involved rather than making the service a dues component. It would seem to me to be more fair if it was paid for by those who will use it (like the surrey bikes and water mice). In addition, no mention was made of the expense of adding online accessibilty. Not all members use the internet (this fact was brought forth by a member who spoke at the meeting and who doesn't even have a computer) so I wouldn't be completely surprised to possibly see a transaction fee or at least an increase in dues to cover the development costs once the system is in place.

Stay tuned!
 

I think the publication we got today said carriage rides at SSR would be
$35. :sunny:
 
so I wouldn't be completely surprised to possibly see a transaction fee or at least an increase in dues to cover the development costs once the system is in place.

First off thanks Doc for your time in getting the info.

As for the above mentioned,( maybe an increase in dues to cover development costs). Would that be fair to raise dues for those of us that wouldn't use the on-line ressie system? You mentioned someone at the meeting who doesn't have a computer, why should their dues go up ( maybe go up)for this service. I for one like to talk to a CM when making my ressies. I could just see all the commotion if there were a computer glitch and ressies were lost.
thanks again DOC
 
paults said:
Would that be fair to raise dues for those of us that wouldn't use the on-line ressie system? You mentioned someone at the meeting who doesn't have a computer, why should their dues go up ( maybe go up)for this service.

That is like saying that someone that doesn't use the slide or the pool shouldn't pay that portion of their dues. Our dues go for the entire good of the system, not just the services that we use.
 
Was there any mention of adding the availability of a dining plan?
 
Thanks for this info. It is nice to know what is going on. DH and I are going to call DVC in the next couple days to tell them we want to buy. I am so excited. These boards sure are great!
 
Thanks for the info, Doc. I was wondering if you looked around SSR while you were there for the meeting. How does the resort look to you? You mentioned two more pools and another pool bar. Does that mean one of the two new pools will be a themed pool? Or do they look like two new quiet pools?

I hope they run more than one carriage at a time. SSR could have informal races with possible side bets. Now that would really add to the Saratoga theme!
 
So they say more bus stops leads to extra costs for transport but then Yacht CLub with one stop, BEACH CLUB with another stop (that's two if you are counting) ends up being charged essentiallythe same as BOARDWALK with one stop and one stop only.....

this added info confirms what I have been saying for 2 years about the Boardwalk transport charges....They need to get the transportation story straight.
 
The member news has been getting better and better every year since Jim Lewis has been in charge! I'm psyched! Thanks for the report, Doc!
 
KLEONARD said:
... You mentioned two more pools and another pool bar. Does that mean one of the two new pools will be a themed pool? Or do they look like two new quiet pools? ....

I think the additional new pools will be neighborhood pools and not another themed pool. The third phase has two buildings in the Paddock area that are already in the framing stage and the other buildings along the golf course have just started foundation work- no evidence of the pools at this point in the construction process.

PKS44 said:
... So they say more bus stops leads to extra costs for transport but then Yacht CLub with one stop, BEACH CLUB with another stop (that's two if you are counting) ends up being charged essentiallythe same as BOARDWALK with one stop and one stop only.....

this added info confirms what I have been saying for 2 years about the Boardwalk transport charges....They need to get the transportation story straight.

Since this was the SSR meeting there was no opportunity for questions about the budget at other resorts. The response given certainly made sense to me regarding SSR. I know the dynamics are different for the Epcot resorts- especially regarding the resort sizes and transportation needs (boats and buses). Hopefully someone was able to ask those questions at the BCV and BWV meetings and can give a report.
 
I did ask a question about the boat schedule.

There was a change during the food and wine.
I was at MGM going to BCV and the boat loading announced was MGM - BW - Epcot. I asked if BWV this costed BWV additional money, I was told no.
 
KLEONARD said:
I hope they run more than one carriage at a time. SSR could have informal races with possible side bets. Now that would really add to the Saratoga theme!
:rotfl: too funny!

Thanks for the info Doc, this was great to read.
 



















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