Spironolactone

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Took DD to a dermatologist today due to acne on her chest and back and this is what he prescribed. Also is sending her for bloodwork to check her hormones. Does anyone have any experience with this drug. He said he wants her on it for six months. Sounded a little excessive to me, but I'm not a dermatologist (and I don't even play one on the DIS!) ;) Also giving her foaming clothes to wash with and two foams (one for morning and one for evening).

Anything anyone can share would be greatly appreciated!
 
I use it in conjunction with Glugaphage (SP) for my PCOS. Acne is a symptom of PCOS so maybe he wants to check to see that her hormones are in check. I was diagnoised with PCOS when I was 17, although it wasn't called it at that point.

Hope that helps!
 
It was originally used as a diurectic and for high blood pressure, but it is an anti-androgen.
Anti-androgens like spironolactone block androgen receptors in the body, preventing cells from absorbing androgen hormones. Simply, spironolactone limits hormonal fluctuations that may contribute to acne breakouts. Hormones, specifically androgens, have been linked to the development of acne.

Because it is a diuretic ("fluid pill"), it will be best if she takes it in the morning. (Rather than running to the bathroom all night.) Also, most of the side effects are related to this, too, like dry mouth and thirst. Others might be breast tenderness, stomach cramping, nausea, dizziness and headache. Usually, most people can take it without too many problems.

Hope this helps,
Edie
(who is a pharmacist is her real life)
 
I use it in conjunction with Glugaphage (SP) for my PCOS. Acne is a symptom of PCOS so maybe he wants to check to see that her hormones are in check. I was diagnoised with PCOS when I was 17, although it wasn't called it at that point.

Hope that helps!

Wow, I had no idea. :eek: I think I want to make sure she gets her bloodwork done before she starts this medication. I'd hate to find out later there was an indication, but the medication covered it up.

Thank you for sharing your story with me. I hope you have been able to get this condition under control and it's not causing any further complications for you. :hug:
 

Wow, I had no idea. :eek: I think I want to make sure she gets her bloodwork done before she starts this medication. I'd hate to find out later there was an indication, but the medication covered it up.

Thank you for sharing your story with me. I hope you have been able to get this condition under control and it's not causing any further complications for you. :hug:

No problem. I didn't want to scare you, but I also wanted to let you know that that might be a reason why the DR is running the hormone levels.

MY PCOS is under control for the most part - except for the losing weight part. I have a very hard time losing weight.

If it does turn out to be PCOS, please feel free to PM me. :hug:

Good luck to you and your daughter! :)
 
It is originally a a blood pressure medication but is also indicated for treatment of acne and hair growth patterns.

I take it for both my blood pressure and hair growth. I was diagnosed with PCOS in 2000 and while I don't have problems at this time my blood pressure has gone up.

It's also a diuretic so she might be using the bathroom more than usual while her body adjusts. That is normal. Just have her drink plenty of water. And it can cause the usual side effects of diarreah and upset stomach but I have never experienced that.

Since it is originally a BP medicine she might feel lightheaded. Watch out for that...but it shouldn't be too bad.
 
Thanks. He did mention plenty of water and no bananas due to potassium levels. He also asked about blood pressure (which I wasn't sure of and he didn't take :confused3), as well as asking about her losing/or thinning hair. Sounds like he covered a lot of what you've mentioned. Hopefully no upset stomach, she deals with that enough during "that time", and occasionally deals with lightheadedness.

Maybe it's a good thing I took her. I'm thinking it's just acne and it could be something more. :eek: Not jumping to any conclusions, just hoping it's nothing more than acne.
 
No problem. I didn't want to scare you, but I also wanted to let you know that that might be a reason why the DR is running the hormone levels.

MY PCOS is under control for the most part - except for the losing weight part. I have a very hard time losing weight.

If it does turn out to be PCOS, please feel free to PM me. :hug:

Good luck to you and your daughter! :)

Thank you for your good wishes and your offer, which I will definitely take you up on if need be.
 
Thanks. He did mention plenty of water and no bananas due to potassium levels. He also asked about blood pressure (which I wasn't sure of and he didn't take :confused3), as well as asking about her losing/or thinning hair. Sounds like he covered a lot of what you've mentioned. Hopefully no upset stomach, she deals with that enough during "that time", and occasionally deals with lightheadedness.

Maybe it's a good thing I took her. I'm thinking it's just acne and it could be something more. :eek: Not jumping to any conclusions, just hoping it's nothing more than acne.

Poor girl...how old is she?

If for some reason her test results come back showing signs of PCOS, I would suggest finding an endocrinologist in your area. My endo controls my PCOS meds as well as my thyroid medicine. :hug:
 
Poor girl...how old is she?

If for some reason her test results come back showing signs of PCOS, I would suggest finding an endocrinologist in your area. My endo controls my PCOS meds as well as my thyroid medicine. :hug:

Just turned 15 yesterday. Besides an endo, shouldn't she see a gyno if something comes bad in her levels?
 
Just turned 15 yesterday. Besides an endo, shouldn't she see a gyno if something comes bad in her levels?


It may not be a bad idea - if for nothing else the peace of mind. The only medicine my gyno prescribes is my BC. I have discussed it with her, but as of right now I am OK. Things may change when my husband and I decide to start a family. I'm not getting any younger and I don't want to wait too much longer to have children especially since I have PCOS.

Does she usually have very heavy periods? That is also a symptom of PCOS.
 
It may not be a bad idea - if for nothing else the peace of mind. The only medicine my gyno prescribes is my BC. I have discussed it with her, but as of right now I am OK. Things may change when my husband and I decide to start a family. I'm not getting any younger and I don't want to wait too much longer to have children especially since I have PCOS.

Does she usually have very heavy periods? That is also a symptom of PCOS.

Not really. Not trying to be graphic, but doesn't have any accidents. I used to all the time when I was her age. The worst part of her periods are the cramps, headaches and nausea.
 
Not really. Not trying to be graphic, but doesn't have any accidents. I used to all the time when I was her age. The worst part of her periods are the cramps, headaches and nausea.

I feel so badly for her! At least she's not having accidents on top of all of that! Hopefully the bloodwork will shed some light as to what maybe going on.
 
I feel so badly for her! At least she's not having accidents on top of all of that! Hopefully the bloodwork will shed some light as to what maybe going on.

Thanks again for your guidance and support. Won't know anything until her next appointment which is 3 weeks from now. But I definitely want to get her in to get the bloodwork done ASAP and definitely before she starts the meds.
 
Make sure she keeps hydrated. I was on that briefly for mild acne and I likely wasn't hydrated enough and it went to my head - insomnia, forgetting conversations I had with people the night before, etc.
 
I just started taking this about two weeks ago. I was recently diagnosed with PCOS. So far, I've had no real side effects, but I do try to make sure I get plenty of fluids and stay away from anything too high in potassium(like bananas) As a PP stated, he is probably checking her hormones for things like PCOS. My symptoms started when I was about 14, but I was never properly diagnosed until 6 months ago.
 
I don't know what PCOS is but as far as being on acne meds for 6 months, that is pretty common. DS15 has been on his for over a year now. It takes a good 6 weeks to really start seeing good results and then continuing that over time to keep them cleared up. There is a good chance she will be on "something" until she is out of puberty. Our twins are both on doxycyclne and a couple different facial lotion things.
 
I'm glad to hear there are a few people out there who have taken this med, or similar meds, just for acne. :) I just assumed treating acne was going to be a short term process, never thinking it might be a symptom of something bigger and taking longer to correct.

Can't wait for the 3 weeks to be over so we can have some idea of what's going on. The thought of PCOS is really freaking me out, but I tend toward freaking out about everything.

Thanks to everyone for sharing your experiences and suggestions with me. I wish you all health and happiness. :hug:
 
Yikes. This is such a complex topic it would probably take me an hour to write all I'd want to write about it. Instead, I'm going to give you a link.

But before I do, I'm going to say this. PCOS is a very misunderstood syndrome, even within the medical community itself. I, to this day, am unable to find a really great link that sums it up accurately, so I can never provide that here.

What I will say is that, if the dermatologist suspects that your daughter may have PCOS, you should really take her to an endocrinologist to run the proper bloodwork and get a proper diagnosis, etc. Because if she does have PCOS, there are far reaching implications for her health over the long term, such as diabetes, cancer, heart disease and sub or infertility, to name just a few.

It could be that, no, the dermatologist doesn't suspect PCOS, but just wants to trial the aldactone to see what happens with her acne. I would probably want to clarify that with him or her. If he or she says that your DD does have some of the characteristics that would make him suspect PCOS, then I'd follow up with your primary care and schedule an endocrinology appointment.

PCOS is a syndrome. The name is unfortunate because it doesn't necessarily affect the ovaries with cysts, as the name would imply (however that may often appear). It's a problem of hormones in the body, and not just the ones associated with puberty, but the ones associated with blood glucose control (insulin), male/female hormones and every other hormone in the body, which is why you really need an endocrinologist to figure it all out. Each person with PCOS is unique and no two cases will be exactly alike. Many with PCOS are insulin resistant and will have hyperinsulinemia (high levels of insulin in the blood which is the body's attempt to make more when insulin isn't working effectively - obviously very important because insulin resistance is a short road leading to diabetes). People also tend to have hyperlipidemia which is high levels of fats in the blood which can clog arteries, including those in the heart, over time so it's something to get a handle on at a young age if possible. There are also lifestyle changes that could be made for a young person with PCOS, such as healthy eating, exercise and vigilent health monitoring. So a bonus if you know you're dealing with this now as opposed to finding out years from now. I would also schedule an appointment with a nutritionist for you and your DD even if I had to pay out of pocket, but if you do find that PCOS is a likelihood, then it should be covered.

HTH. Good luck in this endeavor. (You Go, Mom. :flower3: )

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/515682_4 oops sorry, link won't work unless you have an account, so I'll copy and paste.
Polycystic Ovary Syndrome (PCOS) in the Adolescent Patient: Management Strategies

Introduction
Pathogenesis of PCOS
The Diagnostic Work-Up
Management Strategies
Conclusion
References

Management Strategies
Patients, depending upon where they fall on the lifespan trajectory, have different issues or concerns related to management of PCOS. Because of the long-term consequences associated with insulin resistance and impaired glucose tolerance related to the development of type 2 diabetes and subsequently cardiovascular disease, it is important to diagnose and treat young girls with this disorder. In addition, because of the body image issues that plague adolescents and their need to be similar to members of their peer group, the hirsutism, acne, weight, and irregularity issues can be disturbing to young women with this disease. Therefore, management strategies for the adolescent patient should focus on resolving irregularity issues regarding the menstrual cycle, controlling hirsutism, managing acne, managing weight, controlling insulin resistance and hyperinsulinemia, and reducing cardiovascular risk factors. The cornerstones of this approach involve both the use of medications and lifestyle modification. In addition, nurses who care for adolescents with the disease must also address hair removal and the psychosocial issues that can be associated with PCOS.

Use of Medications in the Management of PCOS
Currently, there are no FDA approved medications indicated for the treatment of PCOS. Any drug that is used in clinical practice is used off-label (Meisler, 2002). Medications commonly prescribed to treat the many troubling signs and symptoms associated with PCOS include oral contraceptive pills, progestin, metformin, AldactoneAE, and Vaniqa99. See Table 2 for a summary of commonly used medications in the treatment of PCOS along with information regarding their use.

For many years, oral contraceptive pills have been the mainstay of therapy for women with PCOS not desiring pregnancy. The best choices are the combined oral contraceptives (COCs). This hormonal therapy can be used to regulate grossly irregular cycles, as well as decrease testosterone, thus decreasing the occurrence of acne and hirsutism. A newer COC, YasminAE, is being marketed as a good choice for PCOS patients because its progestin component (drospirenone) is an analog of spironolactone, a known antiandrogenic agent. An observational study on Yasmin in the management of PCOS symptoms revealed that this COC was effective in improving acne, showed little effect on improving hirsutism, and had a negative influence on fasting insulin concentrations and triglycerides (Palep-Singh, Mook, Barth, & Balen, 2004).

If girls cannot tolerate a COC, another pharmacological method available for regulating cycles is the use of a progestin such as medroxyprogesterone acetate (Provera). The patient is instructed to take 10 mg by mouth daily for 10 days. Once stopped, the patient should have bleeding mimicking a menstrual period. This type of cycle control can be used every 2-3 months to prevent the build up of the endometrial lining of the uterus that may lead to endometrial hyperplasia and subsequent endometrial carcinoma.

Another pharmacological treatment modality that has been used with success, although still being tested through additional clinical trials, is metformin. Metformin HCl (Glucophage) is a biguanide used in the management of patients with type 2 diabetes to control blood glucose levels by improving glucose uptake by peripheral tissues. Most recently, this drug has been used with very good success in women with PCOS to regulate periods, improve ovulation, enhance the effectiveness of fertility drugs, and decrease BMI (Sheehan, 2004). Only recently has the use of metformin with adolescents been studied. Recent clinical trials show good results with altering hyperinsulinemic insulin resistance (Ibanez et al., 2004). In clinical trials of less than 6 months with adolescents, metformin has also been shown to restore normal menstrual cycles (Kent & Legro, 2002). Metformin is prescribed in doses of 1,500 to 2,000 mg daily in treating patients with PCOS. Common gastrointestinal side effects (nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, and flatulence) can be avoided if the medication is started at lower doses and titrated upwards slowly.

Aldactone is another medication used in patients with PCOS. Aldactone (Spironolactone) is actually a diuretic that is commonly used to treat patients with hypertension and heart failure. Aldactone acts as an antiandrogen and actually decreases the amount of free, circulating testosterone, thus impacting most significantly on hirsutism (Richardson, 2003). Up to 200 mg can be taken daily as tolerated. Common side effects include nausea, menstrual irregularities, and increased breast size. The drug needs to be used for at least 6-9 months before any noticeable results may be seen (Attaran, 2005). Once the drug is stopped, hair growth will resume (Tweedy, 2000).

COCs can be used alone or along with antiandrogens and insulin sensitizing agents to improve control of unwanted body hair. In fact, because of the teratogenic effects of aldactone and because metformin can induce ovulatory cycles, if these medications are used, all sexually active females should be encouraged to take a COC concurrently.

Another medication that has shown moderate results in controlling hirsutism is Eflornithine HCl (Vaniqa). This topical agent (cream) acts to slow terminal hair growth resulting in a mild improvement in the presence of unwanted facial hair. Vaniqa is applied to the face, mainly the upper lip, chin, and side-burn area twice daily to achieve the best results.

Lifestyle Modification as a Treatment Modality
Although the use of medications has shown promise in the treatment of various symptoms associated with PCOS, the role of lifestyle modification can not be underestimated. Lifestyle modification revolves around weight loss through dietary modification and exercise.

Research indicates that even a moderate decrease in weight, as little as 5% from baseline, can improve rates of ovulation and conception by lowering androgen levels, as well as improve the insulin resistance associated with the disorder (Hill, 2003). Adolescents who are overweight or obese at the time of diagnosis should be encouraged to engage in a diet and exercise plan that will aid them in attaining and subsequently maintaining a healthy body weight, not just for overall health but for controlling many issues related to having PCOS.

Although there is not one particular type of diet reported as being the best diet for women with PCOS, simple dietary modifications that girls with PCOS may want to consider as a way to improve signs and symptoms associated with the disease could be considered. Dietary measures that have shown promise in this population include those that limit simple carbohydrates in lieu of complex carbohydrates. Small, frequent meals that combine healthy proteins, fats, and complex carbohydrates should be encouraged because small frequent meals consumed throughout the day help to lower elevated insulin levels (Tufts University, 2001). This type of eating plan helps to modulate the release of insulin when compared with larger meals filled with simple sugars that cause insulin surges.

The consumption of foods high in polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs) has also been shown to be beneficial in patients with PCOS. PUFAs have been shown to modulate blood glucose as well as to control levels of sex hormones (Kasim-Karakas, 2004). PUFAs can be found in oily fish, nuts, nut butters, olive oil, and canola oil.

Moderate physical activity, 30-60 minutes per day, should be the goal of all patients with PCOS. Aerobic exercise through walking, jogging, swimming, or biking should be encouraged.

Dealing With Unwanted Body Hair
The presence of unwanted body hair must also be addressed. Women with PCOS find this one of the most troubling aspects of the disease and the one that can impact their feelings as a woman the most severely (Kitzinger & Willmott, 2002).

Electrolysis and laser ablation therapy are the only two methods that claim to be permanent hair removal techniques. Electrolysis and laser therapy can be expensive and painful procedures. It is also important to refer patients to reputable technicians who perform these procedures to reduce the incidence of complications that are often associated with these methods of hair removal (scarring with electrolysis and hypopigmentation with laser ablation therapy). Plucking and waxing are inexpensive methods that can be performed in the privacy of one's home or through salon services. These are much less expensive, as compared with electrolysis and laser therapies, but are by no means a permanent solution to hirsutism. Shaving is yet another option, but many women find this very undesirable.

Psychosocial Support
Offering psychosocial support can be one of the most important aspects of managing this disease. This begins by building positive, supportive relationships with adolescents diagnosed with PCOS. These relationships will allow the adolescent to express her feelings and concerns regarding having a chronic disease whose signs and symptoms can greatly impact one's body image and self-esteem.

Education is another important component of psychosocial support. Through education, the adolescent can become knowledgeable about the disease and available treatment options. The adolescent will then feel empowered to make informed health care decisions on her own behalf. Education can occur through verbal exchanges, the distribution of written materials, and/or access to Internet-based information contained on Web sites. See Table 3 for a list of Internet resources.

The ability to interact and build relationships with other adolescents who have PCOS can also be a source of psychosocial support. The use of face-to-face or web-based support groups could certainly accomplish this management goal.
 


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