Spin-off From SAG strike: Let’s Talk Unions

Second generation union member... second generation educator. I am pro union. I have seen how my mother's union benefits her, especially now she is a senior... her public school pension after 40 years teaching has allowed her to spend her remaining years independent in her own home with excellent health benefits.

My father was self employed (physical therapist) and I saw how he struggled, he worked up to age 83 (died at 86). Although he tried at times to save for retirement there was always something.
 
My husband was an electrician and was in a union the whole time. Thank goodness for it. They advocated for the workers so that he had a very good wage, good healthcare, and PTO. Other electrical companies that were not in the union, got about half the pay, awful benefits, and also had no union-organized training/certification to obtain.

I'm sure the union itself was beast that cost a lot of money, but for the worker, it was invaluable. I realize that hiring these union workers probably cost the construction companies/builders a lot more money but they got a better quality product, IMO.

That said, like anything, you can get into a very crappy union that doesn't do it's job, costs a lot of money, and doesn't know how to balance worker needs against what they should realistically expect to provide the employees.
 
When I was teaching, I was in the union. (I have been out of that for several years now so things might have changed)

The best I can remember, they took the money out of your check whether or not you were actually in, so you might as well be in it. I remember they would step in and prevent principals from overstepping their boundaries (imagine that happening lol). Principals LOVE to assign extra duties such as: supervision duties, covering classes during your planning, working ballgame gates etc... stuff like that got erased or would start getting paid extra for that kind of stuff.

I also remember in salary negotiations years, it would usually lead up to the point of ALMOST striking. I know some districts did end up striking.
 
I got a kick out of this tweet by a large teachers’ union. Nice flag, educators.
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Before being pro/con union, you need to look at what kinds of employment-related things your union will protect and not think about just pay scales. It's easy to say "union employees are slackers because they know they can't be fired" but that is not necessarily true; they can't be fired without CAUSE, and much of the time, companies would rather keep slacking employees than go through the steps necessary (reviews, notification, setting up an improvement plan and following up on it, etc). Also, I agree that sometimes unions get "too big for their pants," so to speak, but overall I believe I, personally, am protected from employer greed and am better off being represented in areas like salary, raises, health care, retirement, etc.

I think at this point, having a union is to your benefit. Employers are trying to trim costs everywhere, and a particularly easy place to do this is in health insurance. A union will fight to hold on to your benefits. For example (and I know this is just one example): I work for University M, DH works for University H. University M is unionized (actually several unions, depending on the job-type) and University H has no unions at all. My contract at University M stipulates for annual 4% raises and we have outstanding health insurance; by participating in the wellness program (one phone call a year with a coach), my premiums for 2 adults are $270 a month with a $250/$500 deductible and $1500/$3000 OOP annually. Most office visits, specialist visits, labs/xrays, etc have a $15-$40 copay, etc. My union fought hard to keep my costs to a minimum. At University H, mid-level coverage would be $620 a month, deductible is $6500/$13000, OOP $13000/$20000, and most services are deductible + 20% to 40%. Every year University H brags about how they have kept premium increase within 2% of the prior year, but that deductible gets higher and higher. University H gets away with this because there is nobody working and negotiating for the employees; the University sets raises, health care costs, etc., to protect THEIR bottom line. OR let's look at retirement. University H will match employee contributions up to 2.2% of what the employee puts into retirement. It used to be more (when DH started there 15 years ago, they matched contributions up to 5%). At University M, as long as I contribute more than 1% of my salary to my retirement, they will contribute 10% of my salary (not of my contribution, but of my salary). Once again, my union holds firm on this. It might not increase every year, but it won't decrease... and if it does, it won't happen unless (a) membership approves this and (b) there is something better in return.

I also worked as a parapro in a public school system for 10 years. I made crap (topped out at $21K) but the union made sure that ed techs were eligible for the pension system. It's not a lot, but I am happy for that $350 check every month; it covers car insurance, cell phones, and electricity for this family of 4.

Anyhow... that is my experience. Look closely at what the unions protect, don't just think about salary levels. Most unions let you opt in/opt out. If you don't join, you still have to pay something, usually, as you are benefiting from the work that the union negotiates (salary, benefits, etc). The trade off is that if you DO end up in a dispute with the employer, the union is not beholden to represent you. Sometimes it's really worth it to know that you will have someone on your side who is versed in labor law, if you have to go up against the employers to save your job, get equal pay, protect yourself from unfair practices. etc.
 
Congratulations on the new job!

NYC and family was always very pro, always bought with the, "Look for the Union Label," for human rights reasons as I was taught to do by my NYC immigrant child labor sweatshop TB victim grandmother. For those who don't know what the jingle is all about, it is sort of like how food gets certified as organic or cruelty free, but is instead a certification of no slave labor, no child labor and no human rights abuses, so like cruelty free for humans which shouldn't be controversial. Simple solution that was already created and implemented successfully

A few years back I went back to work at a school after raising my kids and got my first union job. Best part about it was the benefits, I was able to get full medical, dental and pharmacy benefits for my entire family for $35 a month with a $250 deductible. Job protection is important & so are the processes they are forced to follow.

Nothing is perfect but you couldn't get into a union unless you followed labor laws & so a union shop, or union jobsite was guaranteed free of kids and unsafe practices and injured workers had advocacy, that is enough for me especially for immigrants. These jobs paved the way for my family (and millions of others) into the middle class.
 














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