Some advice from my DVC peeps would be appreciated

[airjay75]

A week at Blt tpv, vgf resort view and akv savannah. They are all one bedrooms tho which im assuming might be harder to sell, but im thinking monorail resort during easter season would be a hot ticket. I would be totally fine with the 20-22 range for 1 bedroom and the hassle of doing it myself otherwise I might as well take the 18 from the rental sites.

Sorry if not allowed to post all that, I will delete, they are not for sale and hopefully won't be i will only do it if its last resort because I REALLY want to go. Do you think because theyre one bedroom at high cost resorts, some expensive views, high cost season i should do it sooner if the need arises?

Site sponsor lets you request as much as $20/point. Might as well try and if it doesn’t rent, then you just cancel. I’ve heard there is another broker that lets you set your own price even higher, but I’m not sure which one it is (haven’t cared enough to look much beyond the site sponsor or David’s).

 

[MICKIMINI]

I’d consider this path:

Plan to keep the reservation until 10 weeks out from check-in.

If you get the letter and an appointment date before your trip - solved!

If you do not, then this is a healthy window to sell a confirmed reservation for April. At 10 weeks out for a spring date, there will be very slim availability for DVC/onsite, which is going to help sell your reservation. If it doesn’t sell by 7 weeks out, lower the price. It should sell at a decent price and likely won’t come to this, but as a back-up for worst case scenario have a ‘lowest’ price you will price it at 5 weeks out.

Great idea! You might want to book the first several nights and then the second several nights separately so they might rent more easily (nights 1-3 and then 4-7 or however it works out). Just ask MS to put a note in your file, so if you end up staying for both reservations, you won't have to move. We often do this just because we use points from different contracts.

 

[PoppyJ]

I rented a confirmed reservation once through a third party website. It was a November studio. Realized we couldn't go in July. It was rented in August, so about a month. It seems to me that people looking at confirmed reservations are looking last minute (by DVC standards).

Not to worry you more, but also take into consideration the swearing in ceremony. Some people get the date of the ceremony at the interview and some don't. In my friend's case, he was told the date would be mailed. It took two months to receive the date in the mail and the ceremony was in two weeks from when he received the letter.

 

[Girlstar30]

Site sponsor lets you request as much as $20/point. Might as well try and if it doesn’t rent, then you just cancel. I’ve heard there is another broker that lets you set your own price even higher, but I’m not sure which one it is (haven’t cared enough to look much beyond the site sponsor or David’s).

I didnt know you could request higher for confirmed resys, thanks!

 

[Genie+]

A week at Blt tpv, vgf resort view and akv savannah. They are all one bedrooms tho which im assuming might be harder to sell, but im thinking monorail resort during easter season would be a hot ticket. I would be totally fine with the 20-22 range for 1 bedroom and the hassle of doing it myself otherwise I might as well take the 18 from the rental sites.

Yeah this is a little trickier. The highest price and easiest to unload is generally studio, standard view, in lower point seasons. Those go like hotcakes for near park resorts.

For some resaon I thought you had a split stay between 1 studio and a 1BR. Maybe that was your last trip?

The hard part about 1BR is we members pay double the points over a studio, while rack rates are generally only around a 50% increase in cash price and the biggest DVC resorts often have decent discounts on top of that at some point.

VGF is likely to get the highest $pp and sell first. There’s not much inventory and cash discounts are harder to come by. Lower percentage and less frequent. This along with BCV, Poly and are the easier 1BRs to sell off.

While BLT TPV doesn’t have a ton of availability or decent discounts, Lake View does which makes the pricing comparatively harder. AKV Sav is challenging too as one of most frequent/deepest discounted.

Sorry if not allowed to post all that, I will delete, they are not for sale and hopefully won't be i will only do it if its last resort because I REALLY want to go. Do you think because theyre one bedroom at high cost resorts, some expensive views, high cost season i should do it sooner if the need arises?

Hmmm… weighing everything… yes. How set are you on 1BRs?

I know you said you borrowed points, but are some in the current UY?

Because in that case, maybe choose one 1BR to keep, look to replace the other 2 reservations with studios (as long as you’re still able to bank the excess points from the switch).

The studios would be much easier to offload at an acceptable $pp, and then you only have one 1BR to worry about. This way even if the 1BR requires lowering price to sell in timely manner, the 2 studios will help the overall average $pp you received for the 3 reservations combined. Plus you’ll have more points for next UY.

What are the other choices again? Sorry. Don’t worry, give yourself some time to think through all the options.

 

[Girlstar30]

Great idea! You might want to book the first several nights and then the second several nights separately so they might rent more easily (nights 1-3 and then 4-7 or however it works out). Just ask MS to put a note in your file, so if you end up staying for both reservations, you won't have to move. We often do this just because we use points from different contracts.

Thank you They're already booked as 7 nights each so ill keep them like that i think cuz the dates arent available for a lot of days and I dont wanna lose some days Plus i still want to go Except for akv I have some flexibility with that because its pretty open!

 

[Girlstar30]

I rented a confirmed reservation once through a third party website. It was a November studio. Realized we couldn't go in July. It was rented in August, so about a month. It seems to me that people looking at confirmed reservations are looking last minute (by DVC standards).

Not to worry you more, but also take into consideration the swearing in ceremony. Some people get the date of the ceremony at the interview and some don't. In my friend's case, he was told the date would be mailed. It took two months to receive the date in the mail and the ceremony was in two weeks from when he received the letter.

Ugh i know its just too much stress and disappointment, hoping something comes and worrying if it doesnt. And then im tied to these southwest gift cards that now have short expiration dates because I bought them before the changes. If we dont get the interview notification before 10-12 weeks im just going to sell and book swan. I will still be happy with that

 

[PolyRob]

If it were me, I would keep the trip. If you find out the naturalization interview conflicts with the April dates cancel 31+ days in advance and start piecing together a summer/early fall trip before the points expire.

The trip could come and go before you even hear back.

 

[PoppyJ]

Ugh i know its just too much stress and disappointment, hoping something comes and worrying if it doesnt. And then im tied to these southwest gift cards that now have short expiration dates because I bought them before the changes. If we dont get the interview notification before 10-12 weeks im just going to sell and book swan. I will still be happy with that

It will all be worth it!

 

[Brian Noble]

Before you set expectations for what you'll get, you might want to see what the going rate is for the general public given the spring discount recently announced. For a 1BR, you might have less headroom than you think. Also, you are not necessarily competing only against other rooms at that resort/in that view category.

 

[airjay75]

Before you set expectations for what you'll get, you might want to see what the going rate is for the general public given the spring discount recently announced. For a 1BR, you might have less headroom than you think. Also, you are not necessarily competing only against other rooms at that resort/in that view category.

You made me curious. I have 4 nights in a BWV 1 BR (BW view) during the week of Easter. No BW 1 BRs are currently available, but P&G view is, which would cost the same number of points. With the spring discount, Disney is charging about $21.28/point. Interestingly, resort view at BWV is going for the same cash rate (but would be less points).

 

[Genie+]

Yep, yesterday I saw a BLT pref 1BR with AP discount for April that comes in $21pp after tax.

And also an AKV-K sav 1BR in Dec that appears getting sold as confirmed reservation for $25pp (it’s marked pending). There was definitely risk to move this, but now that there’s slim pickings elsewhere this renter had the fortune of getting a nice $pp. So it’s possible but this is one of the riskier ones to hold that long.

^Each were one week. The playing field does change as the date looms closer.

The hardest part about this is being three 1BR reservations (eta- and in a high point season). If one or two of the reservations were a studio, that would help reduce the stress and risk of not getting a worthwhile $pp avg across all 3.

I’be been watching these confirmed reservations very closely for at least 3 years now. Some patterns I’ve noticed: longer reservations often get a higher $pp than shorter ones, presumably because enough people don’t want a short stay or to piece together split stays. For near park resorts the last stretch usually becomes a feeding frenzy (outside summer).

 

[Girlstar30]

Yeah this is a little trickier. The highest price and easiest to unload is generally studio, standard view, in lower point seasons. Those go like hotcakes for near park resorts.

For some resaon I thought you had a split stay between 1 studio and a 1BR. Maybe that was your last trip?

The hard part about 1BR is we members pay double the points over a studio, while rack rates are generally only around a 50% increase in cash price and the biggest DVC resorts often have decent discounts on top of that at some point.

VGF is likely to get the highest $pp and sell first. There’s not much inventory and cash discounts are harder to come by. Lower percentage and less frequent. This along with BCV, Poly and are the easier 1BRs to sell off.

While BLT TPV doesn’t have a ton of availability or decent discounts, Lake View does which makes the pricing comparatively harder. AKV Sav is challenging too as one of most frequent/deepest discounted.



Hmmm… weighing everything… yes. How set are you on 1BRs?

I know you said you borrowed points, but are some in the current UY?

Because in that case, maybe choose one 1BR to keep, look to replace the other 2 reservations with studios (as long as you’re still able to bank the excess points from the switch).

The studios would be much easier to offload at an acceptable $pp, and then you only have one 1BR to worry about. This way even if the 1BR requires lowering price to sell in timely manner, the 2 studios will help the overall average $pp you received for the 3 reservations combined. Plus you’ll have more points for next UY.

What are the other choices again? Sorry. Don’t worry, give yourself some time to think through all the options.

Originally I had studios and then I dumped them for 1 bedrooms someone had cancelled the blt tpv and I jumped on it. I thought my wife deserved akv 1 bedroom cuz its her birthday and vgf one bedroom looks the best to me so they all got swapped and after I made myself log and and not stalk again This has stuck for some weeks so not changing it

Zero of my points are in current uy and if we go i def want the one bedrooms. I really really dont want to sell I feel like the best thing for me is just to wait and hope. I really dont mind getting $18 pp and just going with board sponsor i just dont want to get less than $18 pp for blt and akv points, SSR im fine with the $16 they give so I guess my answer should be to try to rent the one bedrooms and if not just sell points to davids or rental store (I believe davids pays more for my blt) i just want it to be fair, I dont need to make some big profit, just want my points to get a fair value. Ofc everyone wants the highest amount they can get but id rather do it fast and ensure I get a fair amount, i realize from my og post it sounded like I wanted top dollar.

The way I understand it is i have to book for people 7-11 months in advance for the $18 so for my december uy if we still havent heard anything from uscis and we sell points, I can book reservations for people for October and November.

Does anyone know if this is correct? Since its the holiday im hoping that wont be hard to do.

 

[Girlstar30]

If it were me, I would keep the trip. If you find out the naturalization interview conflicts with the April dates cancel 31+ days in advance and start piecing together a summer/early fall trip before the points expire.

The trip could come and go before you even hear back.

This is true, i am freaking out prematurely because with dvc I worry about having to do everything so far ahead of time.

We also requested september off for my wife's work to go to aulani and we were planning to purchase a direct contract next year to use the points there, but perhaps I just cancel April trip by the 7 month booking window of February if we havent heard anything, use the points for aulani (pending availability) and get the direct contract and bank points.

It would allow some of my other points to reset which would be great

 

[Girlstar30]

Before you set expectations for what you'll get, you might want to see what the going rate is for the general public given the spring discount recently announced. For a 1BR, you might have less headroom than you think. Also, you are not necessarily competing only against other rooms at that resort/in that view category.

I feel like if it comes down to it, it would just be easier and less stressful to book for people thru the rental store.

I think that week of actual easter would be worth it to do myself because there is no good availability for that, but the other days are pretty open for what I got going on and im not going to dump them until last minute when there will be nothing.

I suppose if I dump them I could book studios later for a hot holiday week to sell, but would this put me in commercial renting territory because im not trying to break the rules and be an a$$ lol

 

[Girlstar30]

Yep, yesterday I saw a BLT pref 1BR with AP discount for April that comes in $21pp after tax.

And also an AKV-K sav 1BR in Dec that appears getting sold as confirmed reservation for $25pp (it’s marked pending). There was definitely risk to move this, but now that there’s slim pickings elsewhere this renter had the fortune of getting a nice $pp. So it’s possible but this is one of the riskier ones to hold that long.

^Each were one week. The playing field does change as the date looms closer.

The hardest part about this is being three 1BR reservations (eta- and in a high point season). If one or two of the reservations were a studio, that would help reduce the stress and risk of not getting a worthwhile $pp avg across all 3.

I’be been watching these confirmed reservations very closely for at least 3 years now. Some patterns I’ve noticed: longer reservations often get a higher $pp than shorter ones, presumably because enough people don’t want a short stay or to piece together split stays. For near park resorts the last stretch usually becomes a feeding frenzy (outside summer).

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This is so interesting, thank for all your help, do you think id have an issue renting at $18 pp for a one bedroom, I just want a fair amount in the end

 

[Genie+]

I feel like the best thing for me is just to wait and hope.

In consideration of everything that seems best. There’s still a nice cushion of time to relax without needing to act. Good luck that this all becomes a non-issue!

I’m always looking at all the back-up plans should our trip(s) fall through

 

[PolyRob]

This is true, i am freaking out prematurely because with dvc I worry about having to do everything so far ahead of time.

We also requested september off for my wife's work to go to aulani and we were planning to purchase a direct contract next year to use the points there, but perhaps I just cancel April trip by the 7 month booking window of February if we havent heard anything, use the points for aulani (pending availability) and get the direct contract and bank points.

It would allow some of my other points to reset which would be great

Yes, I would wait it out and see what happens. One-bedrooms will be the easiest to book again in the summer/early fall and I know you are up to the task of hunting for rooms. It's unfortunate, but if April falls through it's for a good reason and you can celebrate on your next trip.

I think letting your contracts reset and booking with current UY allotment will be very beneficial for you going forward. This is when UY comes into play. It's unfortunate something unexpected like this could happen. If the reservation was on current UY points and you were traveling prior to the banking window you could safely push every single point forward.

 

[Genie+]

This is so interesting, thank for all your help, do you think id have an issue renting at $18 pp for a one bedroom, I just want a fair amount in the end

It’s hard to say because the confirmed reservation brokers tack their fees on and I’m not sure they have consistent formulas. One lets you set your own price and then tries to persuade dropping $pp before listing to leave themselves more room for fees lol. Just know to be firm with your price and they will accept.

You mentioned having the option of doing the standard type broker reservation with these points for fall, is that right? In that case you could try your hand with confirmed res, and set a date that if they don’t move at prices better than option B (standard rental), cancel the conf res listing and pivot to option B. The one we used allows cancelling, you just have to clear it with them before actually doing it.

 

[Girlstar30]

It’s hard to say because the confirmed reservation brokers tack their fees on and I’m not sure they have consistent formulas. One lets you set your own price and then tries to persuade dropping $pp before listing to leave themselves more room for fees lol. Just know to be firm with your price and they will accept.

You mentioned having the option of doing the standard type broker reservation with these points for fall, is that right? In that case you could try your hand with confirmed res, and set a date that if they don’t move at prices better than option B (standard rental), cancel the conf res listing and pivot to option B. The one we used allows cancelling, you just have to clear it with them before actually doing it.

Great suggestion, thanks! Fingers crossed we get that letter soon !