Solo: A Star Wars Story

[jknezek]

Loving the spin machine.

It underperformed because of Star Wars fatigue. It was too sunny outside. Bad marketing campaign. They never intended on making money with this movie. Blah, blah, blah

Check out the financial sites for the real story. Money talks and BS walks so places like Seeking Alpha are cutting through the spin.

Disney stock is down 1% today. But I’m sure that has nothing to do with Solo, right?

As someone who works in finance I'd tell you that this really means very little. Since 2017 Disney has traded between 97 and 116, mostly between 100 and 110. Since January, despite the massive box office of BP and IW, the stock has fallen from 112 to as low as 97. Right now it sits at 101.33, we'll inside the range. Most of April was spent between 99 and 101, so Solo, has a minor impact on a massive company, is essentially a non-factor to today's move. Disney is basically mirroring the larger market today which is down close to 1% as well on much more important global news.

Attempts to link Disney's stock price to a single movie on a single day are simply irrelevant and display massive ignorance of how the stock market works. Sorry.

 

[hertamaniac]

I don’t see either of those, the last two days have one Solo article each day; what investors need to know about Solo’s low debut and Solo struggles at the box office

My point is simple:

I told you there’d be a boycott

Solo has underperformed just like I said it would

It’s hilarious watching Disney, the media, and others act like there are other reasons Solo failed.

In my experience, most large cap companies have at least one product "miss", but the market cap of DIS is so large that it won't adversely effect the stock price.

 

[mcjaco]

Saw it today, really liked it! I am not a huge fan of the Star Wars story, blasphemy... I watch as the family enjoys it. I had low expectations for this movie, though, due to the lack of hype and “who could fill Harrison Ford’s shoes.” I was quite surprised.

I stayed away from all reviews, and was completely surprised about the casting for Beckett- that was awesome. I thought the actor for Solo was good, Lando was fun and gave good character back story, and I do love Chewbacca so that was special.

I felt it was fast paced throughout and could have benefited from some slower moments. I also thought they missed out on opportunities for good dialogue by glossing over what could have been these slower activities. Probably all thoughts already in this thread.

A fun watch. The theater also gave applause at the end, so it seemed well received.

Funny. I thought it was slow. My kids thought it was slow. And a lot of the dialogue felt forces, and un-funny to me.

Saw it earlier today...thought it was kind of meh. My son asked what my favorite part was and honestly couldn't come up with one.

Thought L3 was really annoying. Glad about what happened to that droid.

Not a horrible movie, but way below Rogue One's quality and one I don't really need to see again Hopefully, whatever the next one is will be better.

Same. I really disliked L3. Almost like they were trying to out do K2.

 

[tlmadden73]

I saw it and really enjoyed it. It was just fun! It is obviously not as popular as other Star Wars movies as I was able to get a last minute ticket on opening night. But I thought it was just a fun heist movied. It wasnt as grand of sscale as the other movies (even Rogue One) and that is okay to me. It is akin to all the novels and comic books that tell a smaller scale story in a large universe.

It definitely didnt have as many awful plot holes as the Last Jedi nor did it seem to push politics as heavily. I mean they actually cast white males in some key roles! LOL.

I still feel they just released it too soon after Last Jedi and that affected sales .. people are still talking about that and thus there was no hype build up for this movie.
And they just didnt (or couldnt) market it as heavily. They are competing with themselves. The market push was all about Avengers and now Incredibles (still weeks away) .. Solo seemed to be just left to die.

I think the franchise will need the time off .. and the build up of Galaxys Edge and Episode IX will more than help the wounded franchise to recover.

 

[umichigan10]

I don’t see either of those, the last two days have one Solo article each day; what investors need to know about Solo’s low debut and Solo struggles at the box office

My point is simple:

I told you there’d be a boycott

Solo has underperformed just like I said it would

It’s hilarious watching Disney, the media, and others act like there are other reasons Solo failed.

Solo underperforming is far from a hot take and has little to do with any sort of social political “boycott”. Now Star Wars fatigue? Uninterested masses? People pissed at TLJ? Sure. But that’s far from a boycott

 

[rteetz]

I don’t see either of those, the last two days have one Solo article each day; what investors need to know about Solo’s low debut and Solo struggles at the box office

My point is simple:

I told you there’d be a boycott

Solo has underperformed just like I said it would

It’s hilarious watching Disney, the media, and others act like there are other reasons Solo failed.

The boycott is funny because I saw someone who claimed to be a boycotter but still at the movie. They took a photo of their theater not filled and said #BoycottStarWars or whatever. So you boycott by going to the movie you are supposed to boycott?

And there are several reasons Solo failed not just this stupid boycott.

 

[adam.adbe]

It’s hilarious watching Disney, the media, and others act like there are other reasons Solo failed.

Every single person I know who might otherwise be in the market for this movie, but has chosen to sit it out, has given one or more of a very small number of reasons: "not interested in a Han Solo movie"; "trailers seemed meh"; "reviews seem meh." You seem to have an agenda, and you're clearly going to count every empty seat as a victory for your opinion, despite any evidence or anecdata to the contrary.

My guess is that in six years time when various SW movies have collectively added a another 1.5 to 2 Billion to Disney's box office numbers, you'll be oddly silent on the subject. Meanwhile Disney's stock price will still be in the doldrums, because the market has already factored this franchise in to its numbers, but you'll definitely manage to see proof of something there.

 

[zebrastreyepz]

Loving the spin machine.

It underperformed because of Star Wars fatigue. It was too sunny outside. Bad marketing campaign. They never intended on making money with this movie. Blah, blah, blah

Check out the financial sites for the real story. Money talks and BS walks so places like Seeking Alpha are cutting through the spin.

Disney stock is down 1% today. But I’m sure that has nothing to do with Solo, right?

You seem to be pushing an agenda. You won't get anywhere with that here.

 

[zebrastreyepz]

I don’t see either of those, the last two days have one Solo article each day; what investors need to know about Solo’s low debut and Solo struggles at the box office

My point is simple:

I told you there’d be a boycott

Solo has underperformed just like I said it would

It’s hilarious watching Disney, the media, and others act like there are other reasons Solo failed.

Boycott by whom? A ragtag unorganized bunch of hurt fanboys throwing a fit?

Sheesh.

I liked the movie.

I would call myself a serious fan seeing as how I named one of my kids after Obiwan.

Whatever "group" this is has an inflated sense of their own power, IMO.

If it is said to have performed badly it is for TWO REASONS:

1. Many couldn't accept a Han recast.

2. All the production issues were bad press and cast a pall over it.

But people are seeing that it isn't as bad as they thought it was and going to see it.

Did it smash "all the records"?

No.

Is it a piece of garbage that will go down in infamy like The Lone Ranger and A Wrinkle in Time?

No way.

 

[kbelle8995]

I enjoyed the movie. It was a nice movie to have after The last Jedi. Enjoyed the actors and will definitely get it when it comes out on streaming. It was a good movie.

 

[Dis_Fan]

I don’t see either of those, the last two days have one Solo article each day; what investors need to know about Solo’s low debut and Solo struggles at the box office

My point is simple:

I told you there’d be a boycott

Solo has underperformed just like I said it would

It’s hilarious watching Disney, the media, and others act like there are other reasons Solo failed.

Correlation does not equal Causation.

 

[OhioStateBuckeye]

Saw it for the second time yesterday, memorial day. It was a 4 pm showing and it was near to sold out, just some seats in the front.

So it might be from good word of mouth.

 

[jknezek]

Saw it for the second time yesterday, memorial day. It was a 4 pm showing and it was near to sold out, just some seats in the front.

So it might be from good word of mouth.

This is my big question also. I don't think it can save itself, but a decent couple weeks before the next big opening can mitigate some of the damage. I came in to the office this a.m. and was the only one to have seen it, but given my review there is interest where there wasn't before from a few people.

We will see.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I don’t see either of those, the last two days have one Solo article each day; what investors need to know about Solo’s low debut and Solo struggles at the box office

My point is simple:

I told you there’d be a boycott

Solo has underperformed just like I said it would

It’s hilarious watching Disney, the media, and others act like there are other reasons Solo failed.

The quotes I took is from the "what Investors need To Know about Solo's Low Debut" https://seekingalpha.com/article/4177681-investors-need-know-solos-low-debut ... so perhaps you didn't actually read it?

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Saw it for the second time yesterday, memorial day. It was a 4 pm showing and it was near to sold out, just some seats in the front.

So it might be from good word of mouth.

It seems like Sunday and Monday has more reports of crowded theaters so I think positive word of mouth may have helped. Also, there was rain on Sunday in the Northeast so people may have figured "enjoy the good weather on Saturday and go to the movie on Sunday"

 

[umichigan10]

Correlation does not equal Causation.

you beat me to it

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Correlation does not equal Causation.

but how does the Calrissian fit into this

 

[kbelle8995]

I saw it Monday and the theater was pretty full. I plan to see it again next weekend. I love Han. Have all the books about Han.

 

[BrianL]

There are of course numerous possible causes for Solo's pretty astonishing under-performance at the box-office over the weekend. I think the number one reason is timing, and feel like there is just too much competition out there right now. Most people don't go to movies every week, and they may have hit their fill right now after Avengers and Deadpool. Also, I think interest in this movie wasn't all that high to begin with, not because people thought it would be bad, but more that they just felt the story didn't need to be told. Now, this would be fine if the budget were in line with it, but with a swollen spend of $250 or even $300M, there was no way it was ever going to meet that. Rogue One only had a $200M budget. I think that's the biggest problem here.

As for any boycott, I seriously doubt that had a major effect on the take. It might have made a small impact, but I doubt your average movie goer was even aware of any of that. Fans sometimes forget that we are only small part of the actual movie-going audience. If anything, I would say that those who were very disgruntled by TLJ should go see Solo to show Lucasfilm that that is the kind of Star Wars movie they do want. Personally, I liked both of them, but I can see where Solo is more of a movie "for the fans" than TLJ was.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Hadn't seen it mentioned yet, and I will put it in spoilers for the exact reference, but just realized there is a reference to Galaxy's Edge in Solo

Spoiler

when L3 is walking down to the Millennium Falcon she tells Lando that he couldn't navigate to the Black Spire Outpost without her