So can Pirates even appraoch this?????

[Bob O]

http://boxofficemojo.com/articles/news/?id=030518m.htm
Since the costs may be somewhat similiar in making the movie/marketing does anybody think Pirates can even approach this??? Or even make what Signs did last summer??

 

[wdwguide]

I have no idea what to expect from Pirates, but I doubt that it will get anywhere near where Reloaded is in terms of box office. I am not planning on seeing it unless the reviews are very positive.

 

[EUROPA]

Originally posted by Bob O
http://boxofficemojo.com/articles/news/?id=030518m.htm
Since the costs may be somewhat similiar in making the movie/marketing does anybody think Pirates can even approach this??? Or even make what Signs did last summer??

I just not sure that Pirates will have the appeal to pull those kinds of numbers.

I can see T-3 maybe coming close. After that its Return of the King. I really think that Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban might beat Spiderman

 

[Bob O]

Even thought im a terminator fanatic, i cant see it coming close to the numbers for the Matrix Reloaded. I think the new potter will be worse than the 2 prior potterr films.
I cant see anytthing else this summer beating Matirx at this time.

 

[Planogirl]

I'm curious to see what kind of staying power Matrix Reloaded has. Pirates won't approach it in my opinion but I think that it will do well. For one thing, Matrix is apparently more of a guys film per exit stats while Pirates will likely appeal more to both men and women (or at least I hope so).

 

[kitnrose]

Pirates has a good chance at drawing a wide crowd. It has fighting skeletons for the guys and Orlando Bloom for the girls. Seriously though, I've moved from my initial "Disney has SO run ouf of ideas for movies" to "hey, this looks like it might actually be really good!" in regards to Pirates. It's got a good cast, plenty of action and even a possible plot line which makes it better than many other movies you could chose from.

 

[ThAnswr]

>So can Pirates even appraoch this?????<

One word answer: No.

However, it certainly does lead to the question what is the appeal of Pirates other than the Disney name?

Maybe I'm getting too skeptical, but lest we forget "The Country Bears".

I just get the feeling Pirates is going to be another entry into the long list of very expensive, overly hyped, Disney stinkers.

Just my opinion, and if I'm wrong, someone remember to point that out to me.

 

[Tekneek]

My wife saw the trailer in the theater recently and told me she definitely wanted to see it. I watched the trailer online and it definitely looks good. Of course, that is the point of a trailer, but 95% of them today fail to hook me and this one has. I think it would be quite good, if people just remain honest and objective.

 

[katerkat]

No -- I seriously doubt anything will beat Matrix this summer. I would say X2 and T3 are the only ones that will come close. I don't think Pirates will do badly, but I don't think it'll be in the top five of the summer. Of course, pirate movies have never done exceptionally well. Something about the genre, I guess.

 

[stinkerbelle]

Can I just drop my my two cents?

Think about this - when was the last time Johnny Depp was in a movie that did well?

exactly
case closed.

 

[MelissathePooh]

I think it will be difficult for ANY film to approach the numbers of Matrix Reloaded. I'm not sure anyone would have predicted those figures in the first place for the film let alone an R rated film. Any film at all will have a tough time.

I'm sure Pirates won't do those numbers, but I still believe it will be successful.

What will be interesting to see is whether or not Reloaded has any staying power. I've heard from some Matrix fans who disliked the movie so much they have no intentions of seeing the second part this fall.

 

[HB2K]

Originally posted by MelissathePooh
I think it will be difficult for ANY film to approach the numbers of Matrix Reloaded. I'm not sure anyone would have predicted those figures in the first place for the film let alone an R rated film. Any film at all will have a tough time.

I'm sure Pirates won't do those numbers, but I still believe it will be successful.

What will be interesting to see is whether or not Reloaded has any staying power. I've heard from some Matrix fans who disliked the movie so much they have no intentions of seeing the second part this fall.

That was one of the funniest posts I've read in a long time.

A) The Matrix box office wasn't in question. The movie studios were looking at $100 to $150 mil from the opening extended weekend according to every artice I read on MSNBC, NEWSWEEK, etc.

B) There is NOTHING big opening up next weekend for Memorial day. Matrix will dominate again.

C) If we're talking personal experince, every Matrix fan I've talked to said they liked the second better than the first, and can't wait for November. I think that's the reason most of your Matrix friends are mad....but what did they want? A 5 hr movie?

There was an article in Newsweek which asked the Wachoski bros about the wisdom of having both movies released in the same year. Their answer (paraphrased)?

"Our fans would kill us if we made them wait any longer".

Trust me, the box office for this one alone will pay for both movie's production costs.....

As for Pirates, the trailers are growing on me, but I'm still worried about the apparent lack of a story line and how well that genre will perform in the middle of summer.

Another note about the Matrix....they used a formula similar to a certain old guy who's got a company named after him...

Tell a great story, use cutting edge technology to tell your story, and don't skimp on the quality.

Sounds like a formula for success. It's worked for Walt, it's worked for Pixar, now it's working for the Wachowski Bros. Too bad the originator's company can't figure it out.

 

[KNWVIKING]

"No -- I seriously doubt anything will beat Matrix this summer. I would say X2 and T3 are the only ones that will come close. "

Keep an eye on "The Hulk".

 

[MelissathePooh]

I guess I didn't pay as much attention to the predictions about opening weekend as I disliked the first Matrix greatly and don't care anything about the second, but I also read some articles last night about how the concern over the "r" rating caused some early questions as to its opening power. I was going by eveyone I have been around being astonished at the numbers.

Its (Reloaded) got a 75% rating on rottentomatoes right now. The rotten reviews were the exact arguments our friends had - while obviously in the minority of viewers.

 

[Kaelyn]

Liked the first Matrix but didn't like the second. To quote from an TCM commercial: "Visually stunning but ultimately pointless sequel." Agreed with this review: http://slate.msn.com/default.aspx?id=2082928 .

I've never read a comic book in my life and had to be forced to watch the first XMen which I really liked. LOVED X:2. Will see it again and am hoping they make a third.

But people, take my word for it and just wait for December. Right now I am simply marking time until Return of the King.

 

[d-r]

Originally posted by KNWVIKING
"No -- I seriously doubt anything will beat Matrix this summer. I would say X2 and T3 are the only ones that will come close. "

Keep an eye on "The Hulk".

I have to agree - for some reason our society really loves retold tales of comic book super heros - T3, Hulk, Matrix, plus several other big movies out there for Pirates to get lost in the crowd of.

And fwiw, I am astonished that an R rated movie did that well-
DR

 

[d-r]

I think that's the reason most of your Matrix friends are mad....but what did they want? A 5 hr movie?

actually...that was the funniest thing I've read in a while, but just because you didn't hear all the negative comments they had about how much time was wasted on things that didn't seem relevant to the story (I heard something like "there was like *forever* in some dance club where they just show people dancing, what was the point in that?") Anyway, they sure didn't want any more of it!

I think they may be from a different demographic - I think that the matrix has been most successful with young men.

DR

PS for what its worth, from boxofficemojo.com:

Prior to the opening, concerns were raised in the media and the industry over how the R rating would affect business -- Hannibal's $58,003,121 was the previous top opener that carried the label, and Beverly Hills Cop the top overall grosser at $234,760,478.

 

[EUROPA]

Originally posted by Bob O
I think the new potter will be worse than the 2 prior potterr films.

Why? "Azkaban" is considered by many the best book (or tied with Goblet) The Fan forums for Potter are drooling over the third movie.

 

[BRERALEX]

Azkaban looks to be way to complicated to be put into 3 hours. How can they incorporate everything without sacrificing alot? Sirius black the azkaban gaurds, wormtail, hagrids new class, Hermoine and the clock. the ending to Azkaban alone could be an hour.

 

[BRERALEX]

What will be interesting to see is whether or not Reloaded has any staying power. I've heard from some Matrix fans who disliked the movie so much they have no intentions of seeing the second part this fall.

Every person ive spoken to said they didnt like it. My gf almost fell alseep in those slow parts and i just saw it for a second time, they got real sloppy with the cgi. the george lucas- syndrome all cgi less story.

the 100 Smiths vs. Neo was horrible it looked like the animatrix. the chase was good but i didnt like it overall. THE MUSIC SUCKED LIKE BAD. they should look at the nightcrawler opening scene for x2 to know you dont need techno music in every scene to make it cool.