SLI - optional rental car insurance ?? Do you buy it?

Besides which, aren't you required to call the police any time there is an accident, even if it is a fender bender that you solve out of pocket? So, the insurance company could easily look up police reports in you name and find info, even if you hadn't made a claim.
 
I recall this becoming an issue a few years ago in Ontario (though I do not have any hard facts to back up my claim). Motorists were forgoing making insurance claims on smaller accidents, as they didn't want their insurance to rise. However, as all accidents over $1000 in damage need to be reported to the police, the insurance company found out, and raised premiums anyway.
 
Besides which, aren't you required to call the police any time there is an accident, even if it is a fender bender that you solve out of pocket? So, the insurance company could easily look up police reports in you name and find info, even if you hadn't made a claim.

For the record -- I'd like to know the answer to this.

I was rear-ended three times in the last year - all incidents that were the other person's fault.

Police responded to only one of these when called. THat was because the driver appeared drunk. To the other two situations the police asked if the vehicles were driveable and if anyone was injured. When the answer to those questions was "yes' and "no" - they indicated they would not show up.

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Knox
 
For the record -- I'd like to know the answer to this.

I was rear-ended three times in the last year - all incidents that were the other person's fault.

Police responded to only one of these when called. THat was because the driver appeared drunk. To the other two situations the police asked if the vehicles were driveable and if anyone was injured. When the answer to those questions was "yes' and "no" - they indicated they would not show up.

:confused3

Knox

I think it's odd that they wouldn't show up but I don't really know the law. The other party still has to give you their insurance information though, don't they?
 

I think it's odd that they wouldn't show up but I don't really know the law. The other party still has to give you their insurance information though, don't they?

In Ontario, the police will only attend an accident scene if criminal activity is suspected (ie drunk driver) or if someone is injured. Otherwise, both parties must exchange info (name, address, etc). If the estimated damage is greater than $1,000, each party must go to an Accident Reporting Centre within 24 hours of the accident, to fill out an incident report.
 
In Ontario, the police will only attend an accident scene if criminal activity is suspected (ie drunk driver) or if someone is injured. Otherwise, both parties must exchange info (name, address, etc). If the estimated damage is greater than $1,000, each party must go to an Accident Reporting Centre within 24 hours of the accident, to fill out an incident report.

Right. But still there is some record kept. I can remember being in a rental that got into a fender bender. It wasn't my rental but I remember going to the police station to file a report or something with the driver. So, I guess it doesn't matter so much if the police show up, so long as there is a record?
 
Right. But still there is some record kept. I can remember being in a rental that got into a fender bender. It wasn't my rental but I remember going to the police station to file a report or something with the driver. So, I guess it doesn't matter so much if the police show up, so long as there is a record?

But the question is does that affect your insurance rates? If the police aren't coming and you are not charged with a traffic offence does it cause your rates to go up? What about accidents or "bumps" in parking lots where police have no "jurisdiction"? If you bump a pole in a parking lot all by yourself and pay out of pocket to fix it (no claim filed) it certainly does not affect your insurance rates. And back to the original topic - how does all this affect your insurance rates at home if you opt for the optional rental car company insurance?
 
I don't know how this works in ONT but here in NB any reported accident ( over $1000 ) regardless of fault shows up on your driving record and can effect your insurance rates .
 
But the question is does that affect your insurance rates? If the police aren't coming and you are not charged with a traffic offence does it cause your rates to go up?

And I would say it does. Like Tribus said:

I don't know how this works in ONT but here in NB any reported accident ( over $1000 ) regardless of fault shows up on your driving record and can effect your insurance rates .

When you go to get insurance or renew your insurance, you are asked if you have been in any accidents. That includes ALL accidents whether or not they made an insurance claim. Most are supposed to be reported to the police. So, even if you don't have a traffic offense resulting from it, there is a record that the insurance company can clearly find.
 
In Ontario, when you apply for insurance, you are asked if you've had any accidents in the past 6 yrs. As a broker, we hope for honest answers, but rarely get them. We run a report (Autoplus) by using your drivers licence number. These reports are not 100% accurate all the time. It's based on information that insurance companies provide to the company that compiles info for the Autoplus. Then we have to rely on people to enter the info correctly. Quite often, they can type one little thing wrong and it looks like a client has had an at fault accident, when they haven't. The claims information is provided by insurance companies in Ontario.

In my 10+ years as an insurance broker, I've never seen an out of province accident show up on one of these reports. So to make a long story short, an accident in Florida isn't going to show up unless you are making a claim with your own insurer. Police reports done in Florida or any other jurisdiction won't come back to your insurance company. However, if you get a ticket, like following too close, that would appear on your Ontario Motor Vehicle Report which would generate the question from your insurance company "What happened that you got that ticket?". Then your company might find out.

What happens in some cities in Ontario is that the police depts are directly reporting all accidents to insurance companies. I believe Toronto might be one of those police depts. that does this. I know it doesn't impress some insurance companies, because if a client doesn't want to make a claim, the insurance company doesn't really want to be bothered with it, especially the small stugg. I know of an employee of an insurance company who backed into a pole in a parking garage, for some reason the police had to be advised (I can't remember why), he had no plans of making a claim, he was just planning to fix it & be done with it. But Toronto Police reported it to the insurance co. that he was with (and worked for). His rates weren't affected, he paid for it himself, but that's a single veh accident.

I know Windsor police doesn't report directly to insurers (yet), nor does the OPP.

Your best bet is to call your own insurer/broker and see how an accident with a rental, to which you've bought the collision waiver insurance would affect your insurance. Most brokers will tell you it won't. But if your insured with a direct writer or group co., like the various banks, you'll most likely be speaking to someone in India, so don't expect accurate or good advice. And be careful they don't go reporting an accident that you didn't have!
 
Dh just left on a business trip to the US, where he'll be renting a car from Avis for 3 days. It seems every so often it crosses my mind about our coverage for rental cars so I pulled out the paperwork to check. I asked him what is he using for coverage and he said our credit card. He says Avis allows him to switch back to the company credit card (which doesn't offer CDW coverage, it's a very basic card) when he returns the car and pays the bill.

This year we upgraded the liability to $2 million dollars on both our cars. On his car he has GCNA 20* Combination of OPCF 20 and OPCF 27 for Loss of Use $900 and Liability for Damage to Non-owned $50,000. I hope this is good coverage!

My question is, when you decline the rental car coverage, do they write in that you are using your credit card's CDW coverage or the Policy number if you are using your own insurance? Does the liability coverage on your Policy still cover you if you use your credit card's CDW coverage?

I have a few old notes from a call to my broker but I intend on calling again on Monday to update my knowledge, but being the weekend and I remembered this thread, thought I'd ask here first. :idea:
 
This year we upgraded the liability to $2 million dollars on both our cars. On his car he has GCNA 20* Combination of OPCF 20 and OPCF 27 for Loss of Use $900 and Liability for Damage to Non-owned $50,000. I hope this is good coverage!

My question is, when you decline the rental car coverage, do they write in that you are using your credit card's CDW coverage or the Policy number if you are using your own insurance? Does the liability coverage on your Policy still cover you if you use your credit card's CDW coverage?

I haven't rented a car in years, so I'm not exactly sure about the contracts, but I think you just check a box that you're buying or declining their insurance. Technically you can just decline the additional coverage from the rental car co. They don't really need to know what coverage you're using unless there's a loss. You could just pay cash for the damages if you wanted to (or could afford to). Yes, your $2,000,000 liability with GCNA would extend to the rental as well, regardless of the CDW coverage that you use.
 
Is SLI something that you would purchase in addition to the liability coverage you already have or is this for someone who doesn't have car insurance at all?

Also, I was wondering, for anyone who rents a car while on business trips, is it common practice to have coverage through your employer? A friend of mine works for a company who dropped the rental car coverage portion from the company vehicle policy, in an effort to cut costs and was told to decline coverage. I guess the company thinks the individual traveling can use their own insurance if they have the "misfortune" to get into an accident.
 















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