Sip & Sonder has closed down.

[hardcorestitch]

The Black-owned coffee shop at Parkside Market in Downtown Disney has closed its doors just months after opening in January. A generic brand took over the former coffee space. It is not known if the new coffee shop that replaced Sip & Sonder is run by Disney (you could easily tell just by them serving Joffrey’s). This is a crushing blow to the Black community.

 

[maleficent55]

The Black-owned coffee shop at Parkside Market in Downtown Disney has closed its doors just months after opening in January. A generic brand took over the former coffee space. It is not known if the new coffee shop that replaced Sip & Sonder is run by Disney (you could easily tell just by them serving Joffrey’s). This is a crushing blow to the Black community.

I wonder what the reason for closing is?

 

[Chili327]

I wonder what the reason for closing is?

Rent is probably ridiculous. And if people don’t love the coffee (or at least the vibe), it would be tough to stay afloat.

 

[LKing]

Quality and service were mentioned as concerns in several of the reviews.

They have two other locations that are still open. https://www.sipandsonder.com/locations

 

[disneychrista]

It is tough to have a business in Downtown Disney. Rent is ridiculously expensive plus from what I understand they also require you pay a % of your sales.

 

[hardcorestitch]

It is tough to have a business in Downtown Disney. Rent is ridiculously expensive plus from what I understand they also require you pay a % of your sales.

If I were CEO of Disney Experiences right now… that would change. Especially for small businesses like this.

 

[LKing]

It is tough to have a business in Downtown Disney. Rent is ridiculously expensive plus from what I understand they also require you pay a % of your sales.

Are you referring to common area charges or "triple net"? It is pretty common in areas where there are multiple tenants (ex. malls). I have a triple net lease for my business.

 

[disneychrista]

Are you referring to common area charges or "triple net"? It is pretty common in areas where there are multiple tenants (ex. malls). I have a triple net lease for my business.

No I am not talking about triple net charges. I saw something awhile back that leases include a clause about revenue sharing, where the tenant pays (for example) 5% of their revenue to Disney on top of rent which includes triple net charges.

 

[LKing]

No I am not talking about triple net charges. I saw something awhile back that leases include a clause about revenue sharing, where the tenant pays (for example) 5% of their revenue to Disney on top of rent which includes triple net charges.

Can you find where you read that? I asked ChatGPT to do a search and nothing came up. It did find a "base rent plus percentage rent" structure for Build-a-Bear. According to Build-a-Bear, that is the lease agreement at a majority of their locations.

 

[disneychrista]

Can you find where you read that? I asked ChatGPT to do a search and nothing came up. It did find a "base rent plus percentage rent" structure for Build-a-Bear. According to Build-a-Bear, that is the lease agreement at a majority of their locations.

I will see if I can find where I saw it.