Sign this if the tour groups bother you

[FutureMrsC]

Add me too!

 

[wdwprks]

Add me too, we used to go in July, but could not put up with the BTG,they were so rude and did'nt care if they spoiled the rides for other people. So we go at another time now.

 

[Peepster]

Sign me up, too. We've been silent too long.

 

[Dznefreek]

Why does Disney tolerate this? Why can't simple rules be set in place when these groups make arrangements? People are spending alot of money for their Disney vacation experience,

So are the groups.

Nothing will come of this. Let us not forget WDW is a business first and foremost. There main goal is to generate income and satisfy stockholders. Tour groups are a BIG BUSINESS.

As far as letting the cheerleaders cheer they really cannot do anyhting about it they will never knowingly upset a guest. Much like the people who think WDW can stop people from attending Gay days, they cannot stop 20,000+ people nor do they have the desire.

I applaud your effort though.

 

[Momelie]

Add me to the list!

We're local, so we are probably there 3 times a month, 2 of those overnight stays. Once when we saw the Pop Warners and Cheerleaders waiting to get in, we just turned around and left.

I was able to do that, knowing that there were other days for us, but I feel very bad for the ones who are spending hard earned money and vacation time to have to put up with the bad behavior of these groups.

 

[J-Force]

I wonder if there's a published list on DIS or anywhere else that lists annual tour groups and what time of year they're typically at WDW. This would help in trip planning for those of us who would want to avoid the larger, most disruptive groups.

 

[taxmom04]

Add my name to the list!!

 

[resol37]

To be taken more seriously, you may want to chance "alot" to "a lot".

I'm not in love with any large group in WDW, regardless of whether they are cheerleaders or foreign tour groups (there are actually other countries beyond Brazil that visit WDW), but they've never bothered me enough to do more than roll my eyes and move on. Other than assign tour guides to these groups, I don't know if there's much more that WDW would be able to do (and I'm pretty sure those tour guides are an extra fee, I've only ever seen them with celebrities who are visiting). I think the responsibility relies more in the hands of the chaperones; unfortunately, there's not much we can do about them. I don't disagree that CMs should be more willing to enforce rules in the parks, but WDW has a high turnover rate with young locals and college program interns. Sometimes it takes a couple of months working there to be comfortable confronting guests, especially in large groups.

I won't add my name to the list because, as I said, they've never really bothered me (not as a guest, anyway), but more power to you. I hope WDW responds to your letter.

 

[MomofCKJ]

Feel free to add me to your list.

Rules are rules and groups should not be exempt. No one should be allowed to act so out of control and loud and rude. It is not fair to the many other guests around them. We all pay alot for these Disney trips and want to enjoy them. It really stinks when some group of wild, raised with no manners cheerleaders/football players/BTG ruins that for everyone they cross paths with.

Allyson

 

[jonestavern]

Your petition needs to go to the offending groups, also.
(Although, I am not sure what we expect the Brazilian Ambassador to do! ) Perhaps, the Pop Warner organization is not aware of the ill will they are engendering. Doesn't Pop Warner solicit contributions & run benefits?
This thread has some interesting observations, but just do a search for 'Pop Warner' (by date) & you'll turn up some doozies!
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1297248&page=2&pp=15
Simple raucous behaviour--excessive noise, swearing, pushing-shoving, inappropriate dress-- can be handled by hotel/resort management. You'd think Disney would have a specially trained, diplomatic (but firm) team to handle these situations. I have stayed at much lesser hotels where groups of adult revellers were asked to calm down or leave, In one situation, the cretins were escorted out of the hotel.
We have been during PW time, but fortunately weren't staying at their resorts. I have run into some very sweet cheerleaders, who while overly exuburant weren't disrespectful or nasty. I have also witnessed some pretty stupid antics by these groups. Here I speak of swearing in front of young children in the parks.
It would behoove Disney to remember who their base customers are: families.
Families of all descriptions, shapes & faiths or no; the overwhelming majority expect a clean, safe & sane environment. I think most of us can brush off the ocassional burst of youthful enthusiasm & high spirits, but a steady diet of rudeness, midnight screaming up & down resorts, rowdiness at the pools & foul language we have a right to expect will not be tolerated or welcomed.

Jean & Chris

 

[Missec]

Why does Disney tolerate this? Why can't simple rules be set in place when these groups make arrangements? People are spending alot of money for their Disney vacation experience, and it's very disheartening to see that Disney turns a deaf ear to these disruptive groups. Sadly, their so called "chaperones" often do nothing to set these groups in line.

Please, look closely into the matter and show some more respect for your guests.

Thank you.

I might be hated after this post. But here goes.

Yes the groups are a pain in the butt.

But to write a letter to Disney about that is well.....

So what your saying is your money is better than theirs. The thing is, if you set rules for them you have to set it for all people, everyone that walks into a park or resort. So that means if your kid is screaming at the top of his/her lungs then Security can pull you aside and say your child is screaming to loud. How would you feel, I know how you would feel, you would be pissed. You might not even go back. So if Disney would tell these groups what your suggesting, then how much money would they loose?

Its all about $,$$$,$$$.

My suggestion to you, is go when there aren't as many groups.

 

[pepe of ohio]

Large groups are disruptive, holding hands through the parks makes for unbreaking chain to try to cross, unruly at attractions and especially repeating an attraction speal while riding it. We watch when these groups are posted on being in WDW and plan to be there ourselves at some other time. For the money I pay, I want a quiet vacation experience.

 

[MsTinkerChele]

Add me too

 

[disneyfanfamily]

We can only go in July when DH has vacation. Lots and lots of BTG.

I do not have a problem with tour groups. I was a kid once and I remember the fun of being in a group. However, we were - and HAD to be well behaved or we would be sent home IMMEDIATELY.

Last time we were there, a group of kids that were with a BTG cut in a line waiting to see Woody and Jessie. My DD4 and I were 1st in line - originally. They pushed right through and literally shoved DD4 out of my hands and she was crying because she could not find my for about 10 seconds. I was angry but there was nothing I could do. The sad part was, the chaperones did nothing and we were almost back at the end of the line. There was 1 nice girl that told my and DD to come up in front of them (after I reconnected with my scared DD)

So, sign me up..

 

[fireman17]

Count me in as well. This was our first trip during the holiday season and our family was looking forward to a wonderful time, that was until we ran into all the Pop Warner groups and crowds.
I agree in that we and alot of other families are paying plenty to go to WDW only to have it disrupted by these groups that only pay so much per person.
I don't know why Pop Warner has to be there during December?

 

[Dopey & Grumpy]

Sign me up too. Maybe nothing can be done but I feel better knowing it isn't just me. We went last week and there were groups of kids all over the place. Most of them were pretty well behaved but there were a couple of groups who weren't. They yelled cheers in the lines, had one or two people get in line and then, at the last minute, fourteen friends would shove their way thru saying "I'm with them", all stand in the middle of the road trying to decide what to do next, etc. There may have been chaperones but I didn't see any adults with them.

We will definately check when these groups are suppose to be there and avoid those times.

 

[truebelievers]

I might be hated after this post. But here goes.

Yes the groups are a pain in the butt.

But to write a letter to Disney about that is well.....

So what your saying is your money is better than theirs. The thing is, if you set rules for them you have to set it for all people, everyone that walks into a park or resort. So that means if your kid is screaming at the top of his/her lungs then Security can pull you aside and say your child is screaming to loud. How would you feel, I know how you would feel, you would be pissed. You might not even go back. So if Disney would tell these groups what your suggesting, then how much money would they loose?

Its all about $,$$$,$$$.

My suggestion to you, is go when there aren't as many groups.

I do not think the OP is saying anything about their money being any better than the groups who are paying to be there as well. However, there ARE unwritten rules of the parks (i.e. not cutting in line, not being excessively loud/disruptive, etc.) that all guests should adhere to. No, not everyone does, but such common courtesies should at least be understood.

Also, you proposed a "how would you like it?" situation in which your child was screaming/carrying on and Security stepped in and said something. You see, there are - and rightfully should be - different expectations in behavior between children and young adults.

Disney should be a great experience for all guests, and I really don't think a request of courtesy is too much for the groups to handle. Beyond that, all you can do is hope the kids are going to be mature enough to handle the responsibility.

That said, please do NOT add my name to the list. I have never experienced these sort of antics from a group of any kind, and extend my apologies to anyone who has.

 

[matlock42373]

I think the tour groups should enjoy Disney just as everyone should. I believe it is out of disneys control who is allowed to visit. I also believe WDW has never turned down full resorts or full parks and never will. If we politely explain to the chaperones and the kids the proper way to behave in public maybe this rude behavior will stop. The Brazilian folks are party people and it is up to CM's to police the line budging.

 

[scarboroughmom]

I agree, Pop Warner kids really acted terribly when I was there in 12/2004.

 

[disney junky]

Disney is aware of the situation. They are aware of everything that goes on in their parks. It's their business. A few years ago they went so far as to send videos to the groups who set up the foreign tours in order to offer models of appropriate behavior. It didn't change a thing, but WDW made the attempt.

What rules do you propose that would apply to a group that would be any different from an individual? How would these be enforced? What constitutes a group? Ten or more? Twenty? Thirty?

A family reunion of 50? What rules should they be subject to that you aren't?

WDW enforces a whole lot of things, but they try to be subtle. They don't feel that it enhances the experience to have cm's patroling, and you might be within 20 feet of a situation that is being handled and you won't be aware of it.

These groups have as much right to WDW as anyone. If they are unruly, it is handled. To exclude any group or to hold them to a different or higher standard is impossible.