Shuttle may have been having problems as it passed over Utah

Liz

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A Utah man is on the radio talking about going out in the early morning darkness to watch the shuttle fly overhead.

He said they saw the big, red light in the sky as the shuttle passed, but they also noticed other balls of red breaking off and flying parallel to the main section. He has passed this info on to NASA and they may contact him again for further info.
 
...considering that it didn't pass over Utah.

:rolleyes:
 
What was its flight path?
 

It should have flown over extream southern California, Arizona, and New Mexico. I realize that it was about 38 miles in altitude over the Dallas, TX area but that's still too far to even see from Utah.
 
Well I don't know, I was just reporting what the guy was saying while being interviewed on the radio. He didn't appear to be trying to "pull something". I have since heard a report of someone in California reporting seeing the same things there. He was being interviewed on ABC.
 
I am watching our local news and they are talking about how the shuttle flew across southern Utah before breaking up over Texas.
 
My mistake and apologies extended. :(
That's what I get for believing the uninformed media.
As you can see by the links below the first one shows the flight path over Utah.

http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/groundtracs/sts-107/ksc255/ksc255_long.gif

This one shows where I was originally told it's flightpath was but it would have meant a later landing
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/groundtracs/sts-107/ksc256/ksc256_long.gif

But, on another note, problems appear to have only occured moments before the shuttle began to break apart. There were no indications in the transmissions or instrumentation (STS or HMC) that anything was wrong.
 
Ah...but remember "moments before" means travelling an awful lot of miles. If the shuttle was travelling at about mach 18, or around 12,500 miles per hour, that would be around 208 miles per minute. Mission control reported an intial loss of sensors (which would be mounted in/near/on the heat tiles) at around 7:56 CST, they had last communication with the shuttle at approximately 7:59 and lost all contact moments before 8:00. This puts the shuttle, figuring about 4 minutes x 208 miles per minute, a little more than 800 miles NW of Dallas- or consistent with a California, Nevada, Southern Utah projectory. Timing is right and consistent with something going amiss with the left wing, and then either a continued and massive loss of the heat resistant tiles or a change in position (e.g., flipping the shuttle around so side/back was going "first" ), which then caused a catastrophic event. Now Mission Control must gather evidence to support this hypothesis or a competing hypothesis, and then they will work on finding out WHAT events led to the loss of the shuttle. Last step is to develop solutions to prevent it from reoccuring. They will- and the program will continue.

It is such a tragedy- we have lost 7 of our best scientists, and years and years of data and research (in some cases, more than 10 years effort was lost). The 7 astronauts were up in space, but they represented hundreds and hundreds of researchers back here on earth. But perhaps these brave adventurers did not die in vain. Perhaps we will learn to value research, to better understand and value our scientists (oh for the day science garners as much support as the super bowl!)....and perhaps our younger generation will be awed and motivated to take over where these fine individuals left off. As a "science geek" myself, I can only hope that we find strength and not defeat in Saturday's events.
 


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