Shushh - what's this I hear about Disneyland Paris in Dec 2012?

Ms. Shuttergirl

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Are you holding out on us? Or have I missed a thread where you announced a European trip. You know Europe is my favourite subject at the moment.

Stop keeping secrets and spill please....:lmao:
 
No you haven't missed a thread...I haven't made any big announcements. LOL! Because I haven't been given a budget yet...:rotfl: DH is very nervous as you know we are building next year. The other reason I haven't made any big florid declarations of my travel plans is because I really don't know the details of what we're doing. And there's only 13 months to go. Shock horror!!!!

Ok so I lie, we are definitely doing some Paris, and DLP of course, we also want to go to a club med ski in France (the new one that is opening this year). And we've booked our Holy Land cruise with NCL which departs from Rome. Now I've got a "hole" between just before Christmas until Jan 12 when our cruise starts. What to do, what to do?!?!?!?!?

I could go into all of the chaotic thoughts and options that are in my head but I fear that it might kill off some of our friendly fellow DISboarders...
 
Oh I hope I haven't publicly outted you :confused3.

Happy to remove this thread if you like.

I think most people would love to hear about what you are planning. I know I most definitely would. I think the Aussie/NZ part of the Disboards has evolved into a place where we can chat about all travel destinations. I think it is really useful information.

Your trip sounds fabulous already. Can't wait to help you fill the "holes".
 
Oh Shushh, I too would love to hear of your travel plans whether they be Disney or anything else - I love all travel :)
 

Almost feels like last year to me....popcorn::...


We just need a little spat between two certain people....not a big one...just a little one. Ah.....meow-meries!
 
Well...now that I have an audience. I will have no choice but to reveal my plans or lack thereof! Ms shuttergirl, you may have just started my PTR for me...

Leaving early December, last chance to take children out of school early before I shuffle them off to private school (need to get my money's worth if I'm going to pay all that much for their education...)

Depending on days of week etc, will spend a few days sightseeing Paris and surrounds as well as 3-4 days at DLP. Followed by 1 week of skiing somewhere, the plan is club med ski at Valmorel, France. I know their standard of kids clubs and I'm comfortable letting them do their own thing while I do mine! This is followed by my "hole" between France and the 11 day Holy Land cruise visiting Cyprus, ISrael and Egypt.

OK dilemmas (how do you spell that word!??!!)

Where to spend Christmas?
Options:
French Riviera - Nice and Cannes appear to be great year round towns with a lovely atmosphere around Christmas. Great base to explore the rest of the French Riviera that I haven't been to.
Lapland - Santa, reindeer, huskys, nuf said
Family and Friends - so many of them spread out!!!! My dearest uncle and cousins in Holland would be choice number 1 but been there so many times. Children though have never been. 2nd would be Germany, would LOVE to show the children the christmas markets but once again, we've done Germany (mal and I) thoroughly already. Would get free accomodation everywhere though!

How to fit in Carcassonne?
On our to do list, a mecca for boardgamers. The classic game Carcassonne was based on this medieval UNESCO heritage listed city.

What about my Italian dreams?!?!?
I YEARN to visit Lake Como, and southern Italy but this may have to wait as it appears to just not be the right season for it.

Should I bother with a Asian stop on the way home?
Once again, family a plenty. Good food. Wouldn't mind visiting the new UNiversal studios in Singapore. Does help with jetlag. BUT do I allocate my precious time here or to Europe. Sigh...

PROBLEMS
This is becoming very expensive! To make things worse:
1) We are likely to start building our new home in Feb 2012
2) I am about to lose my job on Dec 16
3) The children are starting private schools in 2013

Ok so fire away with your thoughts, comments, suggestions!
 
:banana: Oh your trip sounds amazing! woo hoo

We have done lots of Europe trips for Christmas, I just love the feel of Europe at Christmas time.

My favourite places are Vienna, love the Christmas markets and the horse drawn carriages everywhere. The place we had spent Christmas day most often is in Zermatt in Switzerland. Oh I absolutely LOVE it there. You get to it by train as there are not any cars there, they have these funny little electrical cars and horse drawn carriages. It is just magnificant!

We loved DLP too around Christmas time, but boy oh boy was it cold. We were in -15 in Zermatt and it didn't feel as cold as DLP. OMG, one night, we went to a Mickey's Christmas Party and it was so cold, sleeting sideways and just burnt our faces. But they have the best hot chocolate at DLP. I"m not sure if it's because it's so cold, but it's lovely to go into one of the arcades on the side of main street and halfway down there is a window that sells hot chocolate. We spent a lot of time there :rotfl: We didn't walk past without grabbing a hot choc :rotfl:

But it was just beautiful. You will have such a wonderful time. I love Europe in spring and summer, but I think Christmas time is my favourite time to go.
 
Aussietravellers you just reminded me of the other option...Austria and Switzerland, places where we've not been to before. Would love to hear more about your Christmas experiences in Zermatt. The Matterhorn has caught my eye! Would love to see the original. Do you have family there? What do you actually do on Christmas day? Are you a skiier? Sorry for all the questions!
 
Shushh - There is always the option to spend Christmas in England....a nice country town; not a big city.

Austria and Switzerland are gorgeous. But I would also recommend that you consider Prague as well.

I also like the Bavarian towns along the Romantic Road....what would be more romantic than Christmas in a medieval walled city?

Then there is the Loire Valley, and the chateau's.

What about Carcasonne? Why wouldn't you consider spending Christmas around there? If you went towards Marseilles and Aix-en-Provence, you could cover the French Riviera, Provence and off to Carcasonne in the timeframe you have.
I'm a firm believer in picking one area and doing it well; rather than rushing around....particularly where Europe is concerned. If you stick to France, then you'll have covered it well with the kids.

And the money side of things? Only you can work out your finances. Plus, you may end up getting a job and then the cashflow is fine again.
 
Aussietravellers you just reminded me of the other option...Austria and Switzerland, places where we've not been to before. Would love to hear more about your Christmas experiences in Zermatt. The Matterhorn has caught my eye! Would love to see the original. Do you have family there? What do you actually do on Christmas day? Are you a skiier? Sorry for all the questions!

Zermatt is absolutely divine. Don't have family there, but every trip, my whole family goes. We usually do separate things before, then meet at Zermatt for Christmas.

We always stay at a hotel called Hotel Schweizerhof and it's great. On the main street, just up from the station. There is a fantastic park behind for ice skating and tobagganing. With the hotel it comes with half board (or is that full board, what ever it's called). So includes breakfast and dinner. The hotel its self has 4 restaurants. The main dining room but you can change your dinner booking to any of their other restaurants. There is a swiss fondue style restaurant, a more upmarket thai restaurant and then their cafe I guess you would call it. Its got traditional swiss meals (mmm, Zurichoise with rosti, my favourite meal), but breakfast is always in the main dining room. Their big main Christmas thing is Christmas Eve. They have a big formal dinner in the main dining room, (we can never be bothered to take tux's etc, so we just eat in one of the other restaurants). The owners of our hotel also own a couple of others so Christmas Eve afternoon they have a massive Christmas tea party for the kids. It is at a beautiful hotel up the road and although we go dressed smart, many are dressed in suits and the kids very very formal. At the party (which we don't pay for, you get an invitation from the hotel a couple of days before), you sit at set tables and served afternoon tea. The kids are all called up individually, by name, to see Father Christmas and given a gift from him. Many children also perform a poem or sing a song (DS is too shy and has never done that).

Christmas day is a little strange. We usually do presents in one of the rooms (my whole family goes), then go down for breakfast. I always take predecorated christmas trees that I have bought from the $2 shop, one for ever room and we just leave them there when we go (then gives me room for my shopping). And it's just a normal day, the shops are open, ski slopes are open. We go out for dinner at the Italian restaurant (which is now thai) usually in our hotel for our Christmas dinner. Christmas day, things seem to be open as normal.
Some of my family go to church, there is an anglican church (I think that is what it is), there is like a late night Christmas eve service, then services on Christmas day too. They say it's beautiful.

I do ski, but didn't last trip. I did go up the mountain though and watch everybody else and met them for lunch. They also had an instructor too. The skiing is fantastic, different mountains to go up, usually by train.

We went from Paris to Zermatt last trip. We took the TGV from Paris to Lausanne (took a few hours, amazing views too through the french and swiss countryside). From Lausanne, train to Visp. Change train again from Visp to Zermatt.

Here are some photos from our last trip.

Train from Visp to Zermatt
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Main Street Zermatt
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Natural ice rink behind our hotel (there is also a man made where they play ice hockey)
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They have these fantastic penguins that you hold (usually the kids but I use them too :rotfl:) the penguins help you balance as there aren't any sides on the natural ice rink.
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Had this furry guy on the train with us on the way down the mountain from skiing one day
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Up the top of Gornergrat (one of the mountains you go up to ski), not a bad view as you ski and ride the chairlifts.
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Another view up the mountain after lunch
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Where to spend Christmas?
Options:
French Riviera - Nice and Cannes appear to be great year round towns with a lovely atmosphere around Christmas. Great base to explore the rest of the French Riviera that I haven't been to.
Lapland - Santa, reindeer, huskys, nuf said
Family and Friends - so many of them spread out!!!! My dearest uncle and cousins in Holland would be choice number 1 but been there so many times. Children though have never been. 2nd would be Germany, would LOVE to show the children the christmas markets but once again, we've done Germany (mal and I) thoroughly already. Would get free accomodation everywhere though!

That's tough. I can't decide between French Riviera and Lapland. The French Riviera would be awesome for the adults and Lapland would be awesome for the kiddies, actually, it would be awesome for everyone. OK, I've made my decision.
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You should go to...
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Lapland. Decision made. lol

Are you parent going with you?
 
Oh and Skip Italy this time and make that a whole other trip so you have more time. The stopover sounds nice though on the way home but if it cuts into your Europe time....mmmmmmmmmmm I just don't know.
 
Thank you all! I knew I should have come here earlier.

Shushh - There is always the option to spend Christmas in England....a nice country town; not a big city.

Austria and Switzerland are gorgeous. But I would also recommend that you consider Prague as well.

I also like the Bavarian towns along the Romantic Road....what would be more romantic than Christmas in a medieval walled city?

Then there is the Loire Valley, and the chateau's.

What about Carcasonne? Why wouldn't you consider spending Christmas around there? If you went towards Marseilles and Aix-en-Provence, you could cover the French Riviera, Provence and off to Carcasonne in the timeframe you have.
I'm a firm believer in picking one area and doing it well; rather than rushing around....particularly where Europe is concerned. If you stick to France, then you'll have covered it well with the kids.

And the money side of things? Only you can work out your finances. Plus, you may end up getting a job and then the cashflow is fine again.

We'll leave the English isles for another time. The in-laws I think are keen to take the children there and show them around their village of origin!

As for staying in the are and doing it properly, I agree with you wholeheartedly. Hence the indecision, which region to go to? Initially I wanted to explore the towns around Carcassone and the Canal du midi. But upon research, discovered that the canal was closed in winter and most of the towns/attractions are closed or have limited visiting hours. This seemed to be the norm for much of Southern France with the exception of the Riviera region. I am quite happy to be proven wrong! But you are right, there are plenty of areas around France that we can visit to maximise our time and experience. Praque is also on the list! Too many places on the list!!!

As for a job, I just received a few phone calls today of job offers. Woohoo! Need to work out what will work with the family. But very happy about it.

Zermatt is absolutely divine. Don't have family there, but every trip, my whole family goes. We usually do separate things before, then meet at Zermatt for Christmas.

We always stay at a hotel called Hotel Schweizerhof and it's great. On the main street, just up from the station. There is a fantastic park behind for ice skating and tobagganing. With the hotel it comes with half board (or is that full board, what ever it's called). So includes breakfast and dinner. The hotel its self has 4 restaurants. The main dining room but you can change your dinner booking to any of their other restaurants. There is a swiss fondue style restaurant, a more upmarket thai restaurant and then their cafe I guess you would call it. Its got traditional swiss meals (mmm, Zurichoise with rosti, my favourite meal), but breakfast is always in the main dining room. Their big main Christmas thing is Christmas Eve. They have a big formal dinner in the main dining room, (we can never be bothered to take tux's etc, so we just eat in one of the other restaurants). The owners of our hotel also own a couple of others so Christmas Eve afternoon they have a massive Christmas tea party for the kids. It is at a beautiful hotel up the road and although we go dressed smart, many are dressed in suits and the kids very very formal. At the party (which we don't pay for, you get an invitation from the hotel a couple of days before), you sit at set tables and served afternoon tea. The kids are all called up individually, by name, to see Father Christmas and given a gift from him. Many children also perform a poem or sing a song (DS is too shy and has never done that).

Christmas day is a little strange. We usually do presents in one of the rooms (my whole family goes), then go down for breakfast. I always take predecorated christmas trees that I have bought from the $2 shop, one for ever room and we just leave them there when we go (then gives me room for my shopping). And it's just a normal day, the shops are open, ski slopes are open. We go out for dinner at the Italian restaurant (which is now thai) usually in our hotel for our Christmas dinner. Christmas day, things seem to be open as normal.
Some of my family go to church, there is an anglican church (I think that is what it is), there is like a late night Christmas eve service, then services on Christmas day too. They say it's beautiful.

I do ski, but didn't last trip. I did go up the mountain though and watch everybody else and met them for lunch. They also had an instructor too. The skiing is fantastic, different mountains to go up, usually by train.

We went from Paris to Zermatt last trip. We took the TGV from Paris to Lausanne (took a few hours, amazing views too through the french and swiss countryside). From Lausanne, train to Visp. Change train again from Visp to Zermatt.

Aussietravellers, thank you for sharing so much detail and for the photos. They are so spectacular! I looked it up straight away! Unfortunately, the hotel has a minimum of 10 day stay over Christmas, not sure if we want to stay that long, but will look into it. I really like the sound of Christmas Eve and Christmas day at Zermatt.

That's tough. I can't decide between French Riviera and Lapland. The French Riviera would be awesome for the adults and Lapland would be awesome for the kiddies, actually, it would be awesome for everyone. OK, I've made my decision.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
You should go to...
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Lapland. Decision made. lol

Are you parent going with you?

Oh and Skip Italy this time and make that a whole other trip so you have more time. The stopover sounds nice though on the way home but if it cuts into your Europe time....mmmmmmmmmmm I just don't know.

Lol...jacs1234. You are right. I know in my head that Italy doesn't make sense but my heart keeps putting it back on the list. OK. Scratched off permanently (well for 2012 anyway)
 
Oh and the parents are interested in Lapland. Mum probably wants to take the opportunity to visit her eldest brother who lives in Holland.

That might just be the determining factor! Think of the places DH and I could go to in the evening if there is free babysitting available...
 
Aussietravellers, thank you for sharing so much detail and for the photos. They are so spectacular! I looked it up straight away! Unfortunately, the hotel has a minimum of 10 day stay over Christmas, not sure if we want to stay that long, but will look into it. I really like the sound of Christmas Eve and Christmas day at Zermatt.

You're Welcome. If you need any more info I'm happy to help anytime (and on DLP, we did 8 nights there last trip).

It should be a minimum 5 night stay, that's what it used to be (we'd stay 7). I just checked at http://www.seilerhotels.ch/en/schweizerhof/ (then went to reservation at the top left). The 25th is in blue. If you run your curser over the 25th, it says 5 night minimum. Unless they are upping it for next year :confused3 They often won't release the following year too early. When you are there over Christmas, many rebook straight away (that's what we always did). A lot of families go back year after year. We used to store things there too, like my Grandmother didn't need her big winter snow boots, so she would leave them there year after year and when we would arrive, they would bring her boots up with her luggage or they would be in the room already. My DS actually walked in Zermatt to for the first time, such great memories there. Such a gorgeous place. Lapland would be amazing though, I would love to spend Christmas there, it would feel like the most real Christmas ever I think.

Decisions Decisions, but the planning is so much fun I think.
 
:banana: Oh your trip sounds amazing! woo hoo

We have done lots of Europe trips for Christmas, I just love the feel of Europe at Christmas time.

My favourite places are Vienna, love the Christmas markets and the horse drawn carriages everywhere. The place we had spent Christmas day most often is in Zermatt in Switzerland. Oh I absolutely LOVE it there. You get to it by train as there are not any cars there, they have these funny little electrical cars and horse drawn carriages. It is just magnificant!

We loved DLP too around Christmas time, but boy oh boy was it cold. We were in -15 in Zermatt and it didn't feel as cold as DLP. OMG, one night, we went to a Mickey's Christmas Party and it was so cold, sleeting sideways and just burnt our faces. But they have the best hot chocolate at DLP. I"m not sure if it's because it's so cold, but it's lovely to go into one of the arcades on the side of main street and halfway down there is a window that sells hot chocolate. We spent a lot of time there :rotfl: We didn't walk past without grabbing a hot choc :rotfl:

But it was just beautiful. You will have such a wonderful time. I love Europe in spring and summer, but I think Christmas time is my favourite time to go.

:rotfl: coldest place of our trip hands down DLP. :rotfl:
 
Well...now that I have an audience. I will have no choice but to reveal my plans or lack thereof! Ms shuttergirl, you may have just started my PTR for me...

Leaving early December, last chance to take children out of school early before I shuffle them off to private school (need to get my money's worth if I'm going to pay all that much for their education...)

Depending on days of week etc, will spend a few days sightseeing Paris and surrounds as well as 3-4 days at DLP. Followed by 1 week of skiing somewhere, the plan is club med ski at Valmorel, France. I know their standard of kids clubs and I'm comfortable letting them do their own thing while I do mine! This is followed by my "hole" between France and the 11 day Holy Land cruise visiting Cyprus, ISrael and Egypt.

OK dilemmas (how do you spell that word!??!!)

Where to spend Christmas?
Options:
French Riviera - Nice and Cannes appear to be great year round towns with a lovely atmosphere around Christmas. Great base to explore the rest of the French Riviera that I haven't been to.
Lapland - Santa, reindeer, huskys, nuf said
Family and Friends - so many of them spread out!!!! My dearest uncle and cousins in Holland would be choice number 1 but been there so many times. Children though have never been. 2nd would be Germany, would LOVE to show the children the christmas markets but once again, we've done Germany (mal and I) thoroughly already. Would get free accomodation everywhere though!

How to fit in Carcassonne?
On our to do list, a mecca for boardgamers. The classic game Carcassonne was based on this medieval UNESCO heritage listed city.

What about my Italian dreams?!?!?
I YEARN to visit Lake Como, and southern Italy but this may have to wait as it appears to just not be the right season for it.

Should I bother with a Asian stop on the way home?
Once again, family a plenty. Good food. Wouldn't mind visiting the new UNiversal studios in Singapore. Does help with jetlag. BUT do I allocate my precious time here or to Europe. Sigh...

PROBLEMS
This is becoming very expensive! To make things worse:
1) We are likely to start building our new home in Feb 2012
2) I am about to lose my job on Dec 16
3) The children are starting private schools in 2013

Ok so fire away with your thoughts, comments, suggestions!

Christmas in Lapland, New Year in Holland??
 
I am just in heaven reading each of the replies.

Aussietravellers, I adore those photos. It's picture postcard perfect and the barrel around the St. Bernard's neck, I swooned. Do they truly still wear them. I would adore to see some more pics of your time here. Care to start a new thread and share some more. I am fascinated and want to add some new destinations to my dream list too.
 
Shushh, it sounds like you are spoiled for choice. What an exciting dilemma. I can't wait to stand on the sidelines and watch the process of elimination. I don't know much about Lapland. I'm off to research.
 














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