Shoulder pushing? Weird post...

mndisfam

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We (mostly me) had the weirdest thing happen quite often at MK and Animal Kingdom on Xmas break.

Both times, this happened about 3 times in one hour.

It was very very very crowded - almost you couldn't walk easily. We are absolutely not used to crowds like this. The weather was great.

Here is what happened - and it ws def. 50% my fault, but still. It was so crowded, it was hard to walk directly to or around anything. Most of the time, if I accidentally, and mutually, stepped right in front of someone, we acknowledged each other and moved around each other. I probably ended up in people's path accidentally bcs I was literally so happy to be there I was looking at all the great decorations, etc.

A few times, however, I saw a person look at me, look down to avoid eye contact, and put their head down and shove their shoulder, one shoulder leaning forward right into me. it was so weird bcs I was almost always bigger than these women. (It was all women and I am a woman...)

I was so flabbergasted, and shocked at people 1) invading my personal space, and 2) how deliberate it was.

It was very very crowded...but this was really deliberate action. And it was not teens by the way. Is this some new weird thing, or are we yokels from Minnesota?http://www.wdwinfo.com/images/smilies/rotfl2.gif
 
I'm somehow reminded of water buffaloes putting down their heads and charging... :eek:

I have yet to see that kind of behavior in regular park guests...

Rest assured, you're still well within normal limits. It's the "Dodge Ram" ladies who are out of bounds. Maybe they've watched too many truck commercials...?
 
It has happened to me - more than once - at the MK - where I always encounter the rudest people imaginable.
 

I wonder what they would do if you yelled "OW!!!!!" as loud as you could and grabbed your shoulder.....my Dh would do something like that.
 
I would never teach my children to push with shoulders, that could really hurt someone, but we do the "butt thrust" in large crowds.

To keep your personal space, firmly plant feet into the ground and push your butt out while curving your back. Now, we do this hopefully when no one is extremely close from the behind, but it does keep your personal space open especially when you are short like we are in my family.

The shoulder thing, is plain rude and dangerous!! (we also do the butt thrust if we want to stay together in a crowd)
 
Note to self: this story yet another good reason to studiously avoid WDW at the peak, peak times. There's enough rudeness in the world without having to encounter it from some ugly lumox while trying to enjoy a major holiday.

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I can honestly say that after a full day of avoiding running into people by being the one to move, I sometimes will just not give a care and force someone else to move around me. Sorry, but it gets to me after a while. It's quite possible the OP had that happen to her. These people might not have been rude 99.9% of the time that day but she just happened to be the one they gave up on.
 
I'm thinking about strategically placed thumb tacks and the looks they might give after being surprised by one... unfortunately that makes it too easy to unintentionally stab a loved one.
 
Disnut -t hey were not standing their grand, they rammed me. Well, as much as people about 5'2 140 and older can ram someone 5'9 and 175...

I wish I was swift enough to think about reciprocating, but it would probably just escalate. We aren't the escalating kind, but it would have been REAALY funny if I screamed OW and started crying!!!
 
I agree!

We were at MK on New Year's Eve...totally busy / big crowds. We were walking in Tomorrowland by Stitch attraction. My son who was 7 years old at the time was walking just ahead of me on my right side. When..

This 'lady' in her 80s, in a hurry to get ahead of others, placed her hand on my son's shoulder and pulled as if to give her momentum to pull through the crowd, almost toppling my son over in the mass of people!

Now, I agree that by the end of my trip I start to lose my patience with rude people, but I remember having to take a deep breath and count to 10 because I almost went off on this lady! The mere thought that I would be [GASP!] kicked out of WDW was enough to calm me down.

Seriously! What causes people to be so rude!?!
 
See it all the time, everywhere, all walks of life, all ages. I got a disease in my shoulders, and if someone did that to me, it would seriously hurt me, and my DH would hunt them down and probably have them arrested. You just don't know how bad you'd hurt people if you hit them ANYWHERE. Luckily I'm usually in my wheelchair to avoid that anymore, cause it has happened, and causes really bad pain for me. I'm sorry that happened to you, but not all people are raised the same way, and are nice.
 
I think they need to post "Go to the right and You'll never go wrong" signs. Most Americans tend to walk on the right side of the pathway and when coming head on to someone, sway right. But I'm thinking the left side of the road foreigners need to be informed. I was amazed last weekend by the number of people that made NO effort to avoid a head on collision. And it wasn't even that busy.
 
If I see a collision about to happen, I just stop! They can walk into me or around me.
I too got to the point where I got sick of zig zagging all over the place to avoid people who seemed to be making a beeline towards me :rolleyes:
 
I can honestly say that after a full day of avoiding running into people by being the one to move, I sometimes will just not give a care and force someone else to move around me. Sorry, but it gets to me after a while. It's quite possible the OP had that happen to her. These people might not have been rude 99.9% of the time that day but she just happened to be the one they gave up on.

Yep, this was me on our trip. I was bobbing and weaving trying to avoid people walking at me, but the time came several times where it was like "look, I'm walking in a straight line here with one other person; you're walking in a straight line with six. I ain't moving this time; I'm tired of it" and ran into a couple of people. It's funny how something like that can wear on you. Or DBF and I would be holding hands walking RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER, and someone would break apart from their group and then go between us. WTH, we were off to the side! Why would you do that!!?

Yes, I bumped a few people out of irritation. :(
 
I'd be willing to bet the shovers are Packers fans. That kind of behavior has all the hallmarks of a Packers fan.
 
I can understand getting annoyed when dealing with rude people in a packed park. However, things like the butt thrust is just asking for trouble. If I was stuck in a crowd and got a butt thrust, I would give that person a good push. When you're in a packed area it's hard not to touch those around you.
 
This just proves why we don't go to Disney during the high peak times. However, we have gotten people who cut us off by walking in front of us and then stop to look at something or read their maps, but we have never encountered any types of rude behavior like the one the OP had encountered :sad2:. I am just in awe that someone would actually shoulder shove in the Happiest Place on Earth and with so many kids around too.
 
In my younger years, we used to go to Bourbon St during Mardi Gras and I guess I developed a knack for moving through heavy crowds. The trick is to see the crowd like a river and find the current moving in the direction you want to go. It also helps to be 6'7" 350lbs as well. Seriously though, Often you will see these folks coming the OP is referring to, and when I see an intentional collision coming, I quickly step to one side or another and that person often will just about fall down when they realize all that forward momentum has no place to go.
 
I can understand getting annoyed when dealing with rude people in a packed park. However, things like the butt thrust is just asking for trouble. If I was stuck in a crowd and got a butt thrust, I would give that person a good push. When you're in a packed area it's hard not to touch those around you.

The butt thrust is never ever done to hurt someone, just a way too get yourself situated in a crowd so that no one can push you out of the way. It is always a preventative "stance" so that we don't get a shoulder thrust like the OP. It is a way to secure our personal space without hurting anyone. I would NEVER teach or hurt someone myself, but some people in crowds are rude and being proactive is a smart thing to do. Also, it is done when the crowd is more at an extremely slow pace or not moving. You always have those people who think that they can move the whole crowd, which you know is just NOT going to happen.
 


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