Should they have told us the fryer was down before we waited 1/2 hour?

To the OP, I agree with you. I would have been annoyed also. B&C is a must do on our trips also. We go there to get burger and fries or onion rings. We would go somewhere else if that combination was not available.

We have our favorite places and usually specific things we order at those places. For us, B&C IS burgers and fried stuff. Usually we skip the ice cream. (I know I know, that is wrong :rotfl2: )

To wait and then find out that the fryer is down is disappointing. At that point you either settle or go somewhere else. With hungry tired kids, too much effort to go elsewhere I am sure, but I would have been very disappointed also. I sympathize totally!

Thanks! :)
 
Never ate there but after looking at the menu, I agree should have let you know up front. Different if you had walked in and got a table right away but 1/2 hr wait. If I was somewhere with a bigger selection then it probably wouldn't bother me, but there it would have. I think for me that the response from the manager is what would really tick me off though.
 
Never ate there but after looking at the menu, I agree should have let you know up front. Different if you had walked in and got a table right away but 1/2 hr wait. If I was somewhere with a bigger selection then it probably wouldn't bother me, but there it would have. I think for me that the response from the manager is what would really tick me off though.

Perfectly said !! ITA !!
Telling the guest, or posting a sign even, would have been an effort at least, before letting them sit and wait there for a table. That would have given them enough information to make their decision on what to do. Not telling them until after they had already waited was 'sneaky', at best.
And the manager's response was totally inappropriate.
 
Hi Maria and RoliePolie. I didn't mean to offend anyone, truly, but the question WAS posed, so I answered it from my point of view. If it had been me, I wouldn't have cared if there weren't any fries or rings available -- in fact, I'd probably be secretly happy that I'd saved the calories and cholesterol. Guess I could have phrased it better though, it just seemed like such a small deal to me that I couldn't believe anyone would care or need advance warning.

But differences are what makes the world go round... again, didn't mean to offend. Just one gal's opinion.
 

MiamiBeach says :Guess I could have phrased it better though, it just seemed like such a small deal to me that I couldn't believe anyone would care or need advance warning.
It was nice of you to come back and post...I'm sure the OP appreciate it. But if one is going to B&C JUST for fries/onion rings and waited 30 minutes....maybe they had a real craving for them.....then has this long wait....I think it might bug more than a few people. So you're right, what is a small deal for some (those not really interested in fries or o rings), is a bigger deal for others (who went just for that specific reason). Think about the mom and dad who are waiting 1/2 hour with 2 or 3 cranky young children for a snack (of the non sugary kind), and then you might appreciate why some would care about advance warning. That would be enough to push a parent right over the edge.....:rotfl:
 
They should have told you. As others have said, the fried foods are a big part of a very limited menu. We were going to eat lunch there with my in-laws a few months back, but when we stopped by the hostess stand, they told us that the fryer was down. We just left and had lunch in Epcot, because the fries are why we go to B&C - I didn't feel like a grilled cheese sandwich and fruit! :rotfl2:

Those who compare it to Jiko running out of the filet must not have eaten at B&C and obviously don't get it.

Cheers!
Heather W
 
Ah, cranky kids! You're right, that one didn't sink in. We don't have kids and sometimes have to make an extra effort to relate. All this talk is making me want an order of onion rings and I don't even like them!
 
And the manager's response was totally inappropriate.

I don't understand why the manager is being bashed so much on this thread (and not just by you Robert P). As many people in the restaurant industry have reported, it is not standard practice to notify arriving guests that something is temporarily not available.

We weren't there. All we have is the OPs recollection of the incident to go on. We did not witness the tone of voice or facial expression that was used.
 
My father owns a restaurant (which I work at) and we don't tell people who are waiting that we're out of X item or can't prepare something because of X circumstance, if it was something big like the fryolators being down, we would close the restaurant for the night since a large portion of our menu is fried food (fries, onion rings, chicken strips, mozzarella stumps, lots of fish dinners, etc)

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A large portion of the B&C menu is also fried food so it is a big deal. I agree that people should have been told ahead of time. I worked in a restaurant for years, and if we had this issue, we definitely would have told people before they were seated.
 
Ah, cranky kids! You're right, that one didn't sink in. We don't have kids and sometimes have to make an extra effort to relate. All this talk is making me want an order of onion rings and I don't even like them!

You should go to B&C and try them, they're some of the best on property! ;)

(And no, not kidding either :upsidedow )
 
Yes, they should have told you.

I don't know WHAT is going on at that place lately, but IMO, they need to fire a few people and get better a better staff in there. I like B&C - a LOT - but the service has gone waaaaaay downhill.
 
Yes, they should have...we will be there in three weeks...and the main reason I go there is to eat the ONION RINGS! I would be really mad if that had been me!:confused:
 
hmm, well there are a lot of good points made here, but I don't think they were in the wrong not to tell you when you gave your names. IMO, the hostess is not obligated to tell you what they are out of, the waiters/waitresses do that when you are seated. It's happened to me a few times, where I'll go to a restaurant and I'm really looking forward to a certain item, and I find out when we're seated that they don't have it. Sure, it stinks, but regardless of whether or not they had told you at the beginning or not, you still wouldn't have gotten your onion rings that night. I think the hostess(es) probably just didn't see the point in telling everyone that the fryers were down, because there were other options for substitutes available. Now, if they didn't have the option of chips or fruit available for customers, then it would be a more dire situation because serving a "naked" burger with no sides at all probably isn't the best. But if you are seated and they say, "well we don't have fries or onion rings available tonight, but we can offer you fruit or chips to go with your meal", I don't see anything wrong with that. I don't doubt that lots of people go to B&C just for the fries and onion rings, but at the same time there are also many people who come in and could not care less about the fries. They do not know what people are coming in for, and that is why they tell you what they are out of when you are seated. Its kind of a hassle to ask each person who walks through the door what they are planning on ordering. Again, its JMO.
 
hmm, well there are a lot of good points made here, but I don't think they were in the wrong not to tell you when you gave your names. IMO, the hostess is not obligated to tell you what they are out of, the waiters/waitresses do that when you are seated.

My take on it is different. :) I agree that a hostess shouldn't have to tell everyone if the restaurant is out of an item. But, this wasn't the case. A piece of equipment that makes some major items on their menu wasn't working. To me that's different than being out of something and patrons should have been given a warning that several things would not be available.

Just my thoughts.
 
I don't understand why the manager is being bashed so much on this thread (and not just by you Robert P). As many people in the restaurant industry have reported, it is not standard practice to notify arriving guests that something is temporarily not available.

We weren't there. All we have is the OPs recollection of the incident to go on. We did not witness the tone of voice or facial expression that was used.

No problem Stinky Pete. Maybe I should explain my take better:
As I see it, the manager is 'being bashed' here because of their response to a legitimate concern of a paying customer. Some on the post have said they don't think guests should have been advised that a 'fairly significant' portion of the menu was going to be unavailable for their meal. Others, like me, are taking the view that before they sat there for 30 minutes waiting with hungry kids (and thus not exploring other dining possibilities), they should have been informed. (A possible middle ground on all of this being that if there was not a wait, then the waiter could have just told them this, upon being immediately seated).

My view is that the staff didn't post a sign, or inform the guests who were about to commit to a waiting time to dine there, of the downed fryer - because they didn't want them to elect to go elsewhere. By not giving the guest, who is wrangling hungry kids, that information, the guest didn't have the opportunity to make an informed decision for themselves, to stay or go elsewhere. By the time the guest waited the 30 minutes, then found out, they were probably time committed to stay. Their only other option would have been to regroup, settle the hungry kids without their food, and then try to go somewhere else, after having wasted 30 minutes at B&C waiting to be seated.
All that aside, in the original post, it says "the waitress said the hostess should have told us when we gave our name". When questioned directly about why the hostess didn't notify them (as per the waitress), the manager gave a lame response to the OP customer (about not knowing what people would be ordering), instead of seeking to address the problem for that guest, or to try to keep it from affecting further guests. From a manager's standpoint, that's a total cop out. The manager's attitude was not very customer service driven, especially for a WDW establishment. In the end, it appears the manager did not address the customer's concerns, or even tokenly deal with the problem at hand. The manager made an excuse.
No tone of voice or facial expression information needed for that. :mad: Simply, the manager made an excuse, and did nothing proactive or customer service oriented, to help resolve or lessen the problem (for this guest or the next ones). If there was indeed a breakdown in communication at the hostess stand, as alluded to by the waitress, the manager should have at least looked into it, not just made a weak excuse to the paying guest who brought it to their attention.

From the OP: "I said exactly, that is why you should tell people, no fries, no onion rings before they wait 1/2 hour and let them make their own decision."

If you tell the guests up front that the fryer is down, and anything fried isn't likely to be available, and they choose to stay anyway, they have made an informed decision.
If you let them put their name in, they hang around and wait 30 minutes, then spring that on them once they sit down, you have taken away their ability to decide for themselves. I believe that the OP has made a very valid point, as noted above from their original post.
 
No problem Stinky Pete. Maybe I should explain my take better:
As I see it, the manager is 'being bashed' here because of their response to a legitimate concern of a paying customer. Some on the post have said they don't think guests should have been advised that a 'fairly significant' portion of the menu was going to be unavailable for their meal. Others, like me, are taking the view that before they sat there for 30 minutes waiting with hungry kids (and thus not exploring other dining possibilities), they should have been informed. (A possible middle ground on all of this being that if there was not a wait, then the waiter could have just told them this, upon being immediately seated).

My view is that the staff didn't post a sign, or inform the guests who were about to commit to a waiting time to dine there, of the downed fryer - because they didn't want them to elect to go elsewhere. By not giving the guest, who is wrangling hungry kids, that information, the guest didn't have the opportunity to make an informed decision for themselves, to stay or go elsewhere. By the time the guest waited the 30 minutes, then found out, they were probably time committed to stay. Their only other option would have been to regroup, settle the hungry kids without their food, and then try to go somewhere else, after having wasted 30 minutes at B&C waiting to be seated.
All that aside, in the original post, it says "the waitress said the hostess should have told us when we gave our name". When questioned directly about why the hostess didn't notify them (as per the waitress), the manager gave a lame response to the OP customer (about not knowing what people would be ordering), instead of seeking to address the problem for that guest, or to try to keep it from affecting further guests. From a manager's standpoint, that's a total cop out. The manager's attitude was not very customer service driven, especially for a WDW establishment. In the end, it appears the manager did not address the customer's concerns, or even tokenly deal with the problem at hand. The manager made an excuse.
No tone of voice or facial expression information needed for that. :mad: Simply, the manager made an excuse, and did nothing proactive or customer service oriented, to help resolve or lessen the problem (for this guest or the next ones). If there was indeed a breakdown in communication at the hostess stand, as alluded to by the waitress, the manager should have at least looked into it, not just made a weak excuse to the paying guest who brought it to their attention.

From the OP: "I said exactly, that is why you should tell people, no fries, no onion rings before they wait 1/2 hour and let them make their own decision."

If you tell the guests up front that the fryer is down, and anything fried isn't likely to be available, and they choose to stay anyway, they have made an informed decision.
If you let them put their name in, they hang around and wait 30 minutes, then spring that on them once they sit down, you have taken away their ability to decide for themselves. I believe that the OP has made a very valid point, as noted above from their original post.

Thanks Robert P. :thumbsup2 Very good post!!!! :)
 
Hi Maria and RoliePolie. I didn't mean to offend anyone, truly, but the question WAS posed, so I answered it from my point of view. If it had been me, I wouldn't have cared if there weren't any fries or rings available -- in fact, I'd probably be secretly happy that I'd saved the calories and cholesterol. Guess I could have phrased it better though, it just seemed like such a small deal to me that I couldn't believe anyone would care or need advance warning.

But differences are what makes the world go round... again, didn't mean to offend. Just one gal's opinion.

No hard feelings!

Its just that my family and I eat fairly healthy at home. When we vacation the kids especially love it because they know they can eat ice cream for breakfast and french fries everyday. Thats just a rule I have on vacation, no healthy eating. :)

So yea they were ticked when they found out their alternative to french fries and onion rings was fruit. :eek: Its sometimes hard to relate when you don't have children , I totally understand. But I hope I did shed some more light on why it was a big deal for the fryers to be down.
 
Oh my, you should have been told, up front.... IMHO, it doesnt even need justification, it should just be that when something like that happens, the customer is informed.
 
If this had happened at home - no big deal, but when people are at WDW expectations are high, especially with children. If you've been there before you talk about the places where you want to eat and what you want to order. I may not even be the greatest food but it's part of the magic. It's the memories and it's disappointing when something ruins it.
 
Great post Robert P. I agree 100% :thumbsup2
It's such a small thing to do to make customers aware of certain things being unavailable (especially when the menu is so limited to begin with) ...simply make them aware....and it's effect is a much happier guest ! Why would the B&C CM's want to put up with disgruntled people when it's a simple fix ?
 


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