Should I sell house as is or fix it up?

gisellewannabe

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Hi! I would like to sell my house that I paid 109,000 for 8 years ago. The agent suggested 102,000. However, it needs new carpet and I would say new bathtub would be great, and a new front door because although it's airtight its hard to open, you have to tug. It was never hung right. . So do we spend , like, 3-4 thousand on this and maybe try to sell for what we paid, or clean carpet professionally and put on new door and new tub and sell for 102,000? This is the first time I have sold a house so I really appriciate any experiences you all have! Thanks!:flower3:
 
I would fix everything before putting it on the market. In this type of a market there is a lot of inventory. In order to get your listing price (or close to it) your home will need to be "repair free". If it needs repairs be prepared for buyers to offer you less than the lising price, knowing they need to fix things.
 
I have never sold a house, but I watch lots of hgtv :)
Have you ever watched Designed to Sell? They do amazing things with a $2000 budget.

I would say try to make the house as move-in ready as you can afford. Definitely new carpet, tub and door, and fresh paint if possible. Replacing dated fixtures and cabinet hardware is another easy fix up. Be sure to get rid of any clutter and extra furniture (rent a storage locker if need be). Make sure the function of each room is clear, for example if you are using the dining room as a play area or office, clear it out and maybe borrow a dining set to do your own "staging".

When buyers are looking, they start adding up the costs of everything that needs to be done, and for many its just not worth it then. Especially when the market is so saturated right now and its a buyer's market.
Plus...a house that needs many cosmetic improvements also sends the message to the buyer that the house was not well cared for. If it needs all this work that I can see, what else does it need that I can't see?

Good luck and I hope you at least get what you paid for the house!
 
Thanks! It looks like fixing it will be the way to go then. We do have all new lights and its a pretty new house so its not dated 70's stuff at least.
 

Definitely fix the door....first impression and all.
If you do carpet, get something very neutral but not too light. But I'd suggest cleaning it and seeing how that looks first. New owner may want to choose their own new carpet.
 
What if we had carpet samples and then said " You can choose want you want if you buy?" Of course these would be in the range that we could afford.Or does it look better just to have new carpet?
 
Ditto on cleaning the carpet, I've seen rugs that I'd swear on a stack would have to be replaced turn into something that if I didn't know better, was brand new! Hire a profesional and see what you can do with it.

Rather than buying a new door, can you hire a handyman that could just re-hang it? That might solve your problem and will only cost you the handyman, rather than a new door plus the installation.
 
Awesome idea! Thanks I will see if I can get someone to rehang it. The door is good, its steel. Maybe I could just replace the brass plate on the bottom and the knocker. Oh, wow, if I can do that it would save hundreds. Steel doors are expensive.
 
I would definately have the carpet cleaned professionally. A good cleaning can do wonders. Besides I'd haet for you to spend the money on new carpet for the next owner to only rip out becuase it's the wrong color not not the desired thickness/quality. I agree on the new door as it is the first impression. Plus change any outdated outlet covers and drawer/door knobs. Another idea is a fresh coat of paint in a few of the rooms. Also, new shutters or some landscaping elements can add to the exterior.

Peronally I wouldn't be too upset listing the house at $102k, even at $105 with room to negotiate. When we sold our house on the west coast almost 3 years ago we started at around $250k and had to drop the price down to~$150k in order for it to sell. Talk about losing money!!! But we were moving and needed to off load it. Plus DH and I literally built it with our own hands so the total cost was under $100. In our minds a small profit was better than no profit.
 
Kitchens and bathrooms are what sell houses, so I would start there. Professionaly clean the carpet, if it is almost there try an area rug to cover and draw the eye away from a not so perfect area. Fresh coat of paint in some rooms and a extreme scrub down of the house should put you up towards you original price.
 
What is wrong with the tub? If it is cosmetic, get it sprayed. It will save a TON.
 
Beware. You could spend the money on the house and it may still only sell for $102,000. The house will only sell for what the market will bear. You need to understand WHY the realtor suggested 102. Generally speaking, houses are appraised based on square footage, bedroom/bathroom count, etc.

Decor doesn't have anything to do with appraised value.

Some of the HGTV shows that advise sellers to update are misleading. Yes, move-in ready condition will have a positive effect on the selling price, but only within the constraints of what the market will bear. The idea is that if your home COULD be 109 with improvements, but isn't because of the need for updating then updating could get you the 109. And the fact is that, if you DON'T update, you could get less than 102 and be on the market longer. It is a buyer's market for sure.

An average buyer will spend around 5 to 10 minutes looking at your property. They have a very short period of time to get an overall feel for what your property offers. Formal dining room? Big master? Eat-in kitchen? How does your house function? It's why they say, make the dining room look like a dining room and nothing else. Don't confuse a buyer. It's not an office/dining room. They will try to remember your house later, and wonder, did it have a dining room?

The goal of a first showing is to get a second showing. The first showing is almost always a way to narrow down a long list of potentials. The second showing is when the buyer will really take a look at specific details.

And remember, half of the time the buyer spends at your house will be standing on the front stoop waiting for their Realtor to get the lockbox open and get the key to open the front door. Spend time here making it look inviting, it's the longest time the buyer will spend in one place. Fix that front door. These impressions are important. They need a positive impression here for sure, otherwise everything will be clouded by that sticky front door. They will wonder how well you've maintained everything else as they walk through and be more apt to look for flaws with a poor first impression. Try to clean the brass first. See how good it can look first.

Cleanliness will trump updates. Cleanliness implies good care and maintenance. Get out your toothbrush and get down and dirty with every aspect of your house. Clean all the baseboards. All the moldings. The doors. The cabinets. The hardware. The carpet. The grout. Clean the walls. You'd be surprised what that can do. You may not have noticed the product on your walls in the bathroom...but removing it makes the walls just look newer.

Clean up and clear out. Make sure a buyer can easily walk around your rooms. Clear all personal items. You don't need the buyer to visualize you living in the house. You would be amazed how buyers will get distracted looking at personal items and totally ignore the functionality of the room. Clear off the kitchen counter. Make your house look like it has enough room to live in. Cabinets. Closets. You are selling a lifestyle, not just a home. Think, this is the house where I will finally be organized and have company over for dinner. That's what the buyer wants.

Yes, kitchens and bathrooms sell houses, because they are the most expensive rooms in the house to change. But little things can go a long way. Not sure why you think you need a new tub, which unless it's free standing, would be a major thing to change. Instead, clean it super clean first. Remove all the old caulk. Get all the mildew out. Potentially, you could get a powerful steam cleaner to get at the grout. Potentially, you could use a power washer to remove old grout. Regrouting with a different color could make a big change in the bathroom and be relatively easy to do. And definitely, recaulk. There are touch up kits for tubs. Look to cleaning and repair before you completely update and replace.

When you are ready to show. Take a lesson from model homes. Turn on all the lights. Set the dining room table. Set the breakfast table. Get spa-like stuff for your bathroom (not clutter-like). Put out the pretty towels. Make the master bed impressive with pillows and a throw. Make the other bedrooms look like something out of a hotel. Think streamlined. You don't sell a home the way you live in a home.

Selling in today's market isn't easy. We are getting ready to go on the market ourselves.
 
ask your realtor for advice before you put in any money on home improvement.

We sold our house in '07 for $107k. So I get at that price point folks aren't expecting tons up updates, etc...

Your realtor will help you pick and choose... they know what will move the house.

In our situation, we were asked to replace the carpet (found a local shop that charged $.97 sq ft, including installation!) but to not replace the roof (which needed replacing) The thought was, folks were going to ask for something off anyways, even if you do *everything*

It was true in our situation. Our offer was full price ($107k was what we asked) and after inspection they asked for a $3000 credit. If we had replced the roof we would have been out $3000 (or more!) but likely wouldn't have a full price offer.

Our realtor was also able to get us in touch with a inexpensive handy-man to help with a few little fix-its. In all we spent about $2,000 to get it ready for sale.

What costs nothing, but helps tons... is CLEAN YOUR HOUSE! OMG! Seriously, it will make a difference, especially if folks around you don't find it necessary. It is hard, and not comfy (especially with small children around) but always, always keep it picked up. Dishes clean, beds made, floor mopped, etc... And DECLUTTER! May as well pack up now, since you are hoping to move. No sense leaving all that crap around, if you'll have to eventually pack it up anyways.

Housecleaning and decluttering are FREE! And you can't beat that!
 
I would get advice from several realtors. May I ask why you want to sell? I know it is really none of my business but it really does matter to the answer.
 
When you are asking the agent for advice keep in mind that some agents are idiots.

We sold a house several years ago.
We had owned the house for over 20 years.
(I was proud that it ended up selling to the daughter of a house inspector)

One agent that DH had look at the house wrote up a bound report of things that we should do to that house.

In it she said to replace the "pink" carpet. (It was beige)
(It sold with the carpet cleaned because the buyer wanted to redo the hardwood under the carpet.)
She also suggested that we paint the white aluminum siding tan...uhh no we did not paint the aluminum siding!
There were some other stupid ideas that I don't recall right now.

We did have the roof replaced with a lovely green one and painted the shutters to match which made a huge difference.
(the first agent we listed with said not to replace to roof)
We also put in a new dishwasher and range.

My advice is to find an agent who sells a lot of houses in your area.
The "big" agents have more connections.
 
Thank you all so much for the replies! To answer some questions, why we want to sell is to get into a better area and another bathroom. Our area is going downhill. Used to be filled with homeowners. Now it seems more people are renting. Lots of police activity lately. I never used to see police around here! Someone two doors down actually got hit in the ear by a bullet that came through his house and struck him while he was sitting at his kitchen table! Unbelievable! Although that was maybe a year or two ago , I can just see a steady decline. Went I go out to walk the dog I am scared sometimes. Well, when there is a police helicopter right over my head I am.

Also we would like another bathroom because we only have one and a half.

The acrylic bathtub I am thinking needs replaced because the drain stopper is missing, the actual drain ring { was brass} is totally corroded, the knob is backwards, meaning hot is cold and cold is hot, {a friend repaired the leak and said he could not figure out how to get it back the right way:confused}I am not handy at all but last summer I grouted and caulked the tile around the bathtub. I was so proud:cheer2:

Everything is neutral in the house. We just had the whole upstairs painted and we are going to have the downstairs retouched. Its been about 3 yrs since we painted downstairs.


I will try to clean the door, thanks! And yes, I will clean like I have never cleaned before ! I redid my closet today, so just a few things are hanging and just a few choice pairs of shoes, nothing on top except pretty baskets. I want it to look awesome!
 
Wow. It sounds like you just need to get out of that neighborhood for sure! Yikes.

Plumbing is a whole separate issue from the actual tub fixture. Talk to an experienced plumber. There are decorative kits available that replace things like those rings, knobs, tub spouts (not the whole plumbing configuration in the wall, just the spout), like if you wanted to change it from chrome to brushed nickle. Stick with want goes in your bathroom, but the point is that these things are replaceable without having to replace the whole tub!
 
Deinately get a few more realtors involved. We just sold our home in Sept and had 3 market analysis' done. They were so far apart. The first realtor suggested a starting price of $168,000, (And told us we'd more than likely only get about $160,000.) the second suggested $186,000, and the third $199,900. We went with #3 and sold our house in 9 days for $194,500!!!!!! I sooo wanted to call realtor #1 and give her a piece of my mind! :mad: Thank God we didn't go with her!

I'd fix the door, but leave the tub and carpet. Clean the carpet and if it becomes an issue when you have an offer you can always give them an allowance to replace it if they choose.

Good Luck.

Oh, and my tip for selling the house. Take 1/2 of the clothes out of your closets. Organize what's left by color and if possible, make sure they're all on white hangers. I know it sounds wierd, but it looks fabulous and really will make your closet look spacious and clean.

ETA: I just read about the tub. You definately need to get that fixed. A inspector will find it and you'll have to do it anyway.
 


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