Should I follow this touring plan-it seems off

[b5sgqueen]

I will be in MK on 3/4 solo. This is one of the days that touring plans originally had at 5 that jumped up to 8. I haven't been to Disney in 25 years so I purchased touring plans because I thought it would help. I also did a ton of research and began following easy wdw.

I got FP at 30 days out and here is what I would come up with on my own:
BOG breakfast at 8am, be out by 8:45 to line up.
7DMT
check wait to Peter Pan, if manageable ride, otherwise..
Pooh
BTMRR
HM
Jungle Cruise
Pirates
Space FP
Buzz(depending on wait)
BTMRR FP

I have a Peter Pan FP for 3:50pm that I will try to modify earlier, otherwise I will fill in with Under the Sea, Barnstormer, Muppets, Philharmagic etc.(no set things I have that I need to see beyond the above) and lunch.

Here's what touring plans has me doing:
BOG breakfast
Buzz
HM
7DMT(they have a 33 minute wait at 9:40am-I didn't think that was even possible)
Under the sea
Barnstormer
Space FP
Jungle Cruise
BTMRR FP
Pirates
Pooh
Peter Pan FP

I follow easywdw and have looked at a lot of his rope drops and this touring plan would seem to contradict his strategy, but maybe it's better? I typed in my plan into touring plans and had them evaluate and they came up with me waiting a ton more.
I am really confused and am looking for guidance from Disney vets who would know the best way to do this. I'm really confused and want to maximize my time.

 

[Robo]

Take any "plan" and "crowd prediction" as a "suggestion," at best... a "guess" at worst...
and an "option," more likely.

There are just far, FAR too many unknowns and variables to follow any plan and
expect it to be overly accurate.

(Kind of like a long-range weather forecast... something interesting to discuss...
after finding out what REALLY happened.)

 

[chris benton]

The Tp site also has a msg board for questions exactly like this. Many ppl use that board and post a link to their published "plan" to allow other tp users to see if there's an issue somewhere.

Your tp has ALL of the attractions you'd like plugged in. I'm not sure you are comparing apples to apples.

Don't allow the software to take away common sense. You don't really even need to have 7d on your plan. You already know you'll be done with 7d at 9:05 am. If you think that's some kind of issue, remove it. You already know that's what you are doing, and what time you'll be done.

Is BOG your starting point at 9am? That might be an issue if the software thinks you are starting at the park entrance at 9am.

 

[lisa cameron]

Keep in mind you can try for additional FP after you use your 3rd so the TP doesn’t account for this. Easy to get a day if FP for Buzz, Under the Sea, Pirates, even JC. Really most anything by SDMT. BTMR and Space can be tough on a crowded day too but otherwise you can easily pick up several more FP especially since you are traveling solo.

 

[aimes0105]

I think your original plan looks good. The touring plan softwares does not account for early arrivals before park open which makes the initial estimations off especially if you start inside the park. This system is probably better for the average person who typically isn't going to be at the rope as early as needed to see low waits for SDMT first thing. Josh mentions in his rope drop posts that if you're in the back of the rope drop crowd you're probably better off doing other attractions with lower waits rather than getting in the end of the line right at park open as the line does actually drop a little after that initial surge (though you're right that 34 minutes seems a little bit too optimistic)

 

[JustCallMeMommy]

Also, if you are using their app, you can optimize at any point during the day to get more up-to-date times. I sometimes create a touring plan, but I mostly use it to get the day started.

 

[wdw&sonny]

Your plan is better. NO question.
But, on your plan, i would go to HM before BTMRR to save backtracking. I would also add Splash Mt.

 

[WhitneyMB]

Definitely take the above advice and remove Seven Dwarfs from your plan. Just add BOG to your plan at 8:00am and make it for 65 minutes. That way Touring Plans will start in Fantasy Land at 9:05. TP doesn't adjust for you being at the front of the line due to PPO breakfasts--and you are correct that the line for 7DMT will definitely be longer than 30 minutes. After you've done this, then you can optimize it again to get suggestions.

Maybe I missed it, but what are the rest of your Fastpasses? Usually people use their first three FPs between 10-12/1, so then they can start trying to get additional ones. If you want to use TPs as accurately as possible, it's important to put in all your FPs.

I use TPs to schedule my FPs and to get a good jump in the morning. Then I base it on what has a low line and what FPs are available.

 

[PrincessWithABlaster]

You often need to trick the software into treating you like an advanced, knowledgeable user rather then someone who's behind the pack. If you want to have 7DMT in your plan, there are two options. Either create a break at 8:50 for 15 mins and label it 7DMT (it can't move it around on you then) or put in a FP for it starting at 9. One of the very smart things they did is that TP FPs do not follow Disney rules. You can put in as many as you want whenever you want. They can be overlapping. If you then click the box to force Optimize to use your FPs it also then can't move 7DMT on you. That also allows you to put in FPs beyond the first 3 for rides you can reasonably expect to get an FP for. The pp had a good list.

TP is helpful, but you do have to apply common sense. Sometimes (ok, often) Optimize goes off the rails. Adjust it with things you find in Josh's plan or things you know from here to get it set the way you want. Then never ever again use Optimize. Evaluate only. You can move rides around and Evaluate to see if it looks like it will save you time one way or the other. If you want to try Optimize in the park to see if it will give you better options based on current wait times, make a copy of your final plan that you can go back to if need be. I do actually find it fun to play with. Enjoy.

 

[princesspaigey]

I use TP and *never* optimize. I put the rides I want in the order I want and in logical clusters, then evaluate and experiment by moving a ride or so and re-evaluating to compare.

I don't like trekking back and forth through the park but sometimes I'll revist an area more than once to catch a couple rides there but not just one and on to the next area.

 

[CAQDaddy]

I think your plan is fine. Since you're solo it makes it much easier to adapt on the fly. I wouldn't stress about it. Use your plan as an outline and if it doesn't work out perfectly just make an adjustment the day of. You will have a great day regardless

 

[TammyLynn33]

Yes I am using for the first time and I’m using it as a guide but will make my own adjustments but then jump back in with the plan when it fits what I’m seeing in the park

 

[lentesta]

I will be in MK on 3/4 solo. This is one of the days that touring plans originally had at 5 that jumped up to 8. I haven't been to Disney in 25 years so I purchased touring plans because I thought it would help. I also did a ton of research and began following easy wdw.

I got FP at 30 days out and here is what I would come up with on my own:
BOG breakfast at 8am, be out by 8:45 to line up.
7DMT
check wait to Peter Pan, if manageable ride, otherwise..
Pooh
BTMRR
HM
Jungle Cruise
Pirates
Space FP
Buzz(depending on wait)
BTMRR FP

I have a Peter Pan FP for 3:50pm that I will try to modify earlier, otherwise I will fill in with Under the Sea, Barnstormer, Muppets, Philharmagic etc.(no set things I have that I need to see beyond the above) and lunch.

Here's what touring plans has me doing:
BOG breakfast
Buzz
HM
7DMT(they have a 33 minute wait at 9:40am-I didn't think that was even possible)
Under the sea
Barnstormer
Space FP
Jungle Cruise
BTMRR FP
Pirates
Pooh
Peter Pan FP

I follow easywdw and have looked at a lot of his rope drops and this touring plan would seem to contradict his strategy, but maybe it's better? I typed in my plan into touring plans and had them evaluate and they came up with me waiting a ton more.
I am really confused and am looking for guidance from Disney vets who would know the best way to do this. I'm really confused and want to maximize my time.

If you're 100% sure that you can be at the front of the 7DMT line, then I'd suggest giving your plan a try.

TP assumes that most people can't be at the front of the line. So if you're at the end of the first wave of 7DMT riders, you'll wait somewhere between 25 and 30 minutes to ride. So the incremental wait between that and the estimated time at 9:40 a.m. is 3 to 8 minutes. (There's an initial rush of people headed to 7DMT, then it slows a bit, then it starts picking up later in the morning.) In that case, you're better off riding something else first, because the incremental wait for *that* when you get off 7DMT would almost certainly be more than 3 to 8 minutes.

Regardless of what you do, re-optimize every couple of steps. Some rides don't open exactly on time; others break down. The software will route you around all of that.

 

[MomOTwins]

Your plan is better, but I would drop the first BTMRR because the line will be long by the time you get to it and you have a FP later anyway, and you don't want to backtrack from BTMRR to HM and then criss cross back again to adventureland--too much wasted time walking, and you'll want to get to jungle cruise before it gets hot and crowded given that long outdoor queue.

 

[hes122]

Don't forget that you may be able to get some of those as a 4th FP (like Buzz for instance).

I personally don't like either option, as both have you traipsing back and forth across the park.

If I were in your shoes, I'd do some sort of the following:

-knock out everything in Fantasyland you want after BOG (if it's not EMM that day, you should be able to to get on 7DMT before or just as the RD crowd arrives)
-hit up Tomorrowland

Lunch

-hit up Adventureland
-hit up Frontierland
-hit up Liberty Square

By this point you should be in your window for PP if you aren't able to move it up. This assumes your Space FP is before your BTMRR FP. If those are reversed I'd do:

-knock out everything in Fantasyland you want after BOG (if it's not EMM that day, you should be able to to get on 7DMT before or just as the RD crowd arrives)
-hit up Liberty Square
-hit up Frontierland

Lunch

-hit up Adventureland
-hit up Tomorrowland

Head back towards Fantasyland and use your Peter Pan FP if you weren't able to move it up.

 

[b5sgqueen]

Thanks everyone for all the advice! I think I will modify mine a bit but stick mostly with it. I prefer walking over waiting in line so I think I'm going to stick with big attraction's first and then see what FP I can get for smaller ones later or wait for them.