Should Disney add calorie counts?

[maverick61]

So ignorance is bliss is winning?

Sorry but I would love to be able to review that information and then make an informed choice. If that choice is to still eat that 1000 calorie piece of cake - well then I was well informed in making that choice.

I think our children deserve to learn how to make right choices and not to always use "on vacation" as an excuse to binge.

Providing the information doesn't take away your right to order it and I highly doubt you will enjoy it less because you know how many calories are in it.

And you probably think when someone says "I am from the givernment and I am here to help you" - its a good thing.

Enough of the ridiculous regulations and government / company driven mandates. As someone else noted, publishing this on menus will have lots of unintended consequences. All it would take is one media outlet to run with a story about high fat or high calorie menu items at WDW and they'd be making all the menus Weight Watchers compliant! Who wants that.

And what ever happened to personal responsibility and common sense. I guess it has gone out of style in our country today as people look to big brother to protect themselves.

Here is a clue - That Ice cream sundae or big piece of cake - it has lots of calories. No need for a menu to spell it out.

Those french fries - not a great nutrional choice.

Bacon and eggs - and a nice juicy cheesburger, well . . . .

Its called COMMON SENSE people. If you want to eat healthy - and are practicing what you preach, you ALREADY KNOW what is and what is not healthy. Why do you need Disney to spell it out for you? Or is it you just want to legislate / shame others into eating on vacation how you think they should?

I am sick and tired of government / other people imposing more and more ridiculous regulations on people. Who cares if California requires restaurants to post this. California regulations in a whole lot of areas make no sense. Thats why I will never live there.

Freedom, Personal responsibility, limited regulation - Thats my mantra. If our country practiced this, we all would be better off

 

[JB2K]

.So I'm curious...
Do you think Disney should post calorie information on their menus?
If they did, do you think it would guide your choices while eating in the world?
Would this information be a positive, or would it interfere with your fun of indulging on vacation?

I think the "Nutrition Facts" should be available to the customer, somewhere in the dining establishment, but never on the menu or in plain sight (this is WDW, not NYC!).

 

[kaytieeldr]

You GO, Maverick! !
Although, ice cream IS made from milk (okay, fine, cream) and that does have vitamin D, and we need vitamin D - doesn't that make ice cream 'healthy'?

I won't tell you the stupid law that just went into effect in Boston - because it's not Disney- or food-related. But it's STUPID - where Maverick's support for consumer common sense would suffice.

 

[JoanneNC]

And you probably think when someone says "I am from the givernment and I am here to help you" - its a good thing.

Enough of the ridiculous regulations and government / company driven mandates. As someone else noted, publishing this on menus will have lots of unintended consequences. All it would take is one media outlet to run with a story about high fat or high calorie menu items at WDW and they'd be making all the menus Weight Watchers compliant! Who wants that.

And what ever happened to personal responsibility and common sense. I guess it has gone out of style in our country today as people look to big brother to protect themselves.

Here is a clue - That Ice cream sundae or big piece of cake - it has lots of calories. No need for a menu to spell it out.

Those french fries - not a great nutrional choice.

Bacon and eggs - and a nice juicy cheesburger, well . . . .

Its called COMMON SENSE people. If you want to eat healthy - and are practicing what you preach, you ALREADY KNOW what is and what is not healthy. Why do you need Disney to spell it out for you? Or is it you just want to legislate / shame others into eating on vacation how you think they should?

I am sick and tired of government / other people imposing more and more ridiculous regulations on people. Who cares if California requires restaurants to post this. California regulations in a whole lot of areas make no sense. Thats why I will never live there.

Freedom, Personal responsibility, limited regulation - Thats my mantra. If our country practiced this, we all would be better off

Actually no I didn't vote for Obama - Thank you

So - cigs never should have the warning on it that they are dangerous? Hair dryers shouldn't have warnings on them that they shouldn't be used in the bathtub? yes common sense should cover all of those, but face it - common sense is NOT something everyone is born with. Heck our economy is where it is party because consumers didn't have the common sense to realize that a 20k income really shouldn't be buying a 200k mortgage. Sorry but I don't have faith in common sense.
Look around - we are a nation of obese adults and CHILDREN. With huge portions and readily available fast food - good choices have gone out the window. If you can't enjoy that over sized chunk of cake because the truth is staring you in the face - that should tell you something.

Disclaimers - I am not obese but I am not skinny either. I am a chocolate lover and don't always make the best choices but as with anything in my life, I prefer to take the informed route then the head in the sand route.

 

[kaytieeldr]

JB2K - I do not agree that nutritional information should be required by legislation ANYwhere.

 

[JoanneNC]

JB2K - I do not agree that nutritional information should be required by legislation ANYwhere.

In clarification I do not believe it should be legislation either but I think it should be available as the right thing to do

 

[kaytieeldr]

Look around - we are a nation of obese adults and CHILDREN.

Your children are YOUR responsibility - not Disney's, not the New York City Council's, not the California State Legislature's.

NO restaurant should be required by law to post nutritional information. School cafeterias, okay. Government run food-service operations in government-owned establishments, okay. But where does it stop? But if you own your own restaurant, WHY should the government be able to make laws affecting YOUR business, especially in a potentially negative financial way? No more trans fats? Awesome. Who pays for the reformulation of recipes, and the potential higher cost of acceptable-to-the-government cooking oils/fats? Not the mayor of New York. Who pays the additional cost of researching the exact nutritional information for every menu item served by affected restaurants, and for new (larger) menus? Again, not the city of New York; not the state of California; not the state of Florida - because, realistically, can you see ANY regular restaurant voluntarily doing the research and redesigning entire menus, except if required by law?

 

[shordiebecka]

back to Disney calorie counting...

I'm on weight watchers, and will not be counting "points" or really WATCHING what I eat down there, but would love if they had nutritional information so I had SOME idea. I wouldn't let it spoil what I got or how much I ate, I just want to know.... hopefully by then I will be able to take a guilt free week off though!

 

[JoanneNC]

Your children are YOUR responsibility - not Disney's, not the New York City Council's, not the California State Legislature's.

NO restaurant should be required by law to post nutritional information. School cafeterias, okay. Government run food-service operations in government-owned establishments, okay. But where does it stop? But if you own your own restaurant, WHY should the government be able to make laws affecting YOUR business, especially in a potentially negative financial way? No more trans fats? Awesome. Who pays for the reformulation of recipes, and the potential higher cost of acceptable-to-the-government cooking oils/fats? Not the mayor of New York. Who pays the additional cost of researching the exact nutritional information for every menu item served by affected restaurants, and for new (larger) menus? Again, not the city of New York; not the state of California; not the state of Florida - because, realistically, can you see ANY regular restaurant voluntarily doing the research and redesigning entire menus, except if required by law?

I 100% agree that the government shouldn't REQUIRE this but I don't feel its a bad thing to be voluntarily done by an establishment. Since when is knowledge such a bad thing?

 

[kaytieeldr]

In clarification I do not believe it should be legislation either but I think it should be available as the right thing to do

Ah, okay! I completely agree! Not only should the information be readily available, but the information that it IS available should be easily shared - big letters at the bottom of each page of the menus

And I didn't mean "your-JoanneNC's" children in my post above, I meant "your-everyone's" children.

 

[JoanneNC]

Ah, okay! I completely agree! Not only should the information be readily available, but the information that it IS available should be easily shared - big letters at the bottom of each page of the menus

And I didn't mean "your-JoanneNC's" children in my post above, I meant "your-everyone's" children.

Well my kids are my responsibility so its all good

 

[Eeyore's Buddy]

I think the "Nutrition Facts" should be available to the customer, somewhere in the dining establishment, but never on the menu or in plain sight (this is WDW, not NYC!).

 

[Colleen27]

Who pays for the reformulation of recipes, and the potential higher cost of acceptable-to-the-government cooking oils/fats? Not the mayor of New York. Who pays the additional cost of researching the exact nutritional information for every menu item served by affected restaurants, and for new (larger) menus? Again, not the city of New York; not the state of California; not the state of Florida - because, realistically, can you see ANY regular restaurant voluntarily doing the research and redesigning entire menus, except if required by law?

Exactly! And if you think the DDP led to the "dumbing down" of Disney menus, can you imagine what this would do? Particularly to signature restaurants, where the menus are chef-driven and change often... Disney isn't just going to absorb the cost of compiling new nutritional information on every seasonal change of menu at California Grill or on every "fresh catch" Chef's special at Flying Fish.

 

[erinbee]

An estimate of the nutritional information should be available by request.

I know that the school bread or chocolate croissant are loaded with calories and fat - but I am still going to eat them. I only eat them at Disney - I look forward to it between visits. I plan my meals as a huge part of our vacation experience. The last thing I want is to have to stare at a menu and argue with myself to go with a meal I don't really want that has fewer calories than one that I truly want to eat.

I walk more at Disney than anywhere near what I do on a normal basis. I have never gained weight while there (I've lost some actually) so I am entitled to a guilt free vacation.

 

[emmabemmainc]

Here we go again w/ the stupidity disease--"gee, I didn't realize the huge, lunch meat loaded sandwich w/ tons of mayonnaise had lots of fat grams/calories in it--how did I get so fat??" I am so sick of it. I AM overweight, but I know why--I don't need anyone to tell me what I should and should not eat. If Disney wants to list the counts somewhere in small letters, then let them take the time and spend the money to do so. I won't be reading. But, big letters? Really? If people want to eat high caloric foods, especially at Disney, then who cares?
Oh, and BTW--I suffered from huge gall stones for 10 years and finally had my gall bladder removed last year--I KNEW what I couldn't eat--it's not rocket science. I don't need warnings put on my food.

 

[donaldndaisy]

Nope, don't wanna know

 

[MissionMouse]

I think the nutritional information should be provided and most chain restaurants in this country that do not do so because providing this information would negatively impact their business if people knew the unhealthy composition of the meals their serving. Overall, this information provides you insight to preparation methods (fried) used and the quality level of the ingredients (fat content, etc.). When you are cutting cost..just like major food manufacturers...quality is usually impacted and fat and salt use is increased to offset the loss of flavor, texture and taste. You also need to be concerned if their using food extenders which provides greater number of servings too...again usually not healthy ingredients. I have had conversations with major food executives who even refer to their food products within their organization as grubbage and state consumers are more concerned about their budget and making the food last..they don't want quality. ...this is what you eat from a major food manufactuer you all know and most likely are buying even today.

 

[Beauty & the Best]

Okay. So I'm of the opinion that the info should be available UPON REQUEST and maybe on the disney website somewhere. Then people who are genuinely (sp?) interested can find the information and make educated decisions. Everyone else who doesn't want to know doesn't have to.

And as for common sense ordering, I have a bone to pick here.....
Like a lot of other posters, I try to use common sense when ordering at restaurants. But sometimes I'll check the nutritional information on something that I perceive as "healthy" and I find that it's loaded with fat and calories.

Case in point- a turkey sub at Firehouse Subs or almost any pre-arranged salad at Crispers (like their Summer Salad) has more calories than a Big Mac.

Sometimes you look at the info and you're shocked b/c it sounds healthy but isn't, this is why the info should be available upon request. Yes people use common sense, but sometimes that doesn't exactly steer you the right way.

 

[jamstew]

And as for common sense ordering, I have a bone to pick here.....
Like a lot of other posters, I try to use common sense when ordering at restaurants. But sometimes I'll check the nutritional information on something that I perceive as "healthy" and I find that it's loaded with fat and calories.
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Sometimes you look at the info and you're shocked b/c it sounds healthy but isn't, this is why the info should be available upon request. Yes people use common sense, but sometimes that doesn't exactly steer you the right way.

I'm not a chef, and I don't cook much. Until I started dieting (for the first time in my life at age 62), I didn't have any idea how bad my normal diet was. I've lost 35 pounds in the last year, and without nutritional information, there's no way that could have happened.

 

[kaytieeldr]

If Disney wants to list the counts somewhere in small letters, then let them take the time and spend the money to do so. I won't be reading. But, big letters? Really?

No. Please go back and read my response again. I said the information THAT nutritional information is available can be printed in big letters at the bottom of every page of the menu, i.e. make the information THAT the information is readily available - should any diner choose to request it.

Really. Here's http://disboards.com/showpost.php?p=30507972&postcount=50 the link to the post to which you refer, and for convenience (versus vanity ) I will quote myself

Ah, okay! I completely agree! Not only should the information be readily available, but the information that it IS available should be easily shared - big letters at the bottom of each page of the menus

I hope that clears up any confusion. Please feel free to link, or scroll back up, to post number 50 to see that I never changed/edited anything in it, that it has stated this exact information since it was originally posted more than two hours ago.

Overall, this information provides you insight to preparation methods (fried) used and the quality level of the ingredients (fat content, etc.).

Respectfully, any fast food diner who does not know that, or at least have an idea of it, has their head buried in the sand. French FRIES? FRIED chicken? Hamburgers cooked on a flattop NOT designed with a nonstick surface?

But we're not discussing McDonald's or Taco Bell, except referentially. We're discussing Disney, and only in concept.