Service isn't so "Magical" right now...

denas

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So we just returned from our 7-night Eastern sailing on the Magic. We last sailed on Disney 4 years ago with my two kids who were then 4 and 6 months. This time we brought the older two (now 8 and 4) my youngest (10 months) and my in-laws. My in-laws are veteran cruisers with2-3 cruises a year on many lines (mostly Royal Carribean recently) and avid Disney fans. The kind of Disney fans that have Disney-themed Christmas trees, dining rooms, artwork, and are annual pass holders. They have never done a Disney cruise because the price was so much more for them than they typically spend on other cruise lines. We paid for their cruise and have been saving and planning for several years.

DH and I had been raving about the fabulous Disney service and were really excited to cruise. I read the few negative comments on this board and figured it was mostly from people who cruise Disney so much they were nit-picking. Now I think they may have some legitimate concerns....

Service ranged from absolutely awful to just OK with a few exceptional spots. Our Assistant waiter was awful. Really, really awful. The first night, my SIL had mistakenly booked a spa treatment at 7:15 thinking we would be done with our 5:45 dinner and ended up only getting an appetizer and one glass of water. The rest of us finally left the dining room at 8 and gave up on getting dessert. Our waiter did everything - having to bring silverware, drinks etc.

While our waiter seemed to cover better by night 2, the assistant server was worse - but at least we all ate and managed to leave by 7:30 (which is still a long time for three kids to behave). By night three, I ended up leaving at 7:15 with a crying baby, no entre for me, no dessert for any of the adults, and barely made our show. The assistant waiter served a flat coke that didn't arrive until the main course. When my SIL asked if he could possibly serve her that wasn't flat, he looked at her incredulously and asked if she expected him to go to another machine:scared1: However, the final straw that night was when he started clearing and replacing silverware from our table and the other table he was responsible for. He was taking the dirty silverware and putting it into a bin and then pulling the clean silver ware FROM UNDERNEATH and putting it out for use (for both us and for the following seating because we watched him do it at the table next to us when he was re-setting for the next meal.) At that point, we sat our waiter down and told him this was not working out. He told us the assistant server was new and he would try and train him more.

On night 4, no assistant server showed up. It was kind of amazing that our waiter provided much better service without an assistant (drinks on time and what we ordered, silverware out when it was time to eat something, etc). We inherited a replacement assistant.

The next day, I was up with a cranky baby very early at topsiders and saw a couple of officers who were clearly in charge of food service checking on something at the drink station. Remembering someone's comment here on DIS about not letting your cruise go by before complaining, I flagged him down and expressed our problems - and mostly requested that the replacement assistant server stay with us for the remainder of the cruise. At least at this point, Disney customer service began to kick in. He took everything down on paper. That evening, a restaurant manager came over to talk to us and said that the previous assistant server would be doing something else for the remainder of the cruise. While dinner service definately improved, it was still INCREDIBLY slow. We wanted to enjoy the evening family caberet at 7:30 and it was hard to make it, even when we were the very first people in the dining room at 5:45 when it opened.

Our waiter told us that probably close to 85% of the crew were on first contracts with Disney. He was also a first Disney contract, but had been at sea for 9 years sailing with Royal Carribean. He said the biggest problem was close to 40% were probably first time at sea!!! It definately showed. We had really hoped to wow my in-laws and they were clearly dissappointed. My mothe-in-law kept pointing out that on Royal Carribean they managed to get served dinner in an hour and on Royal Carribean they were given towels and there were bottles of water for purchase right where they disembarked the ship to take with them on excursions, etc. We did have some great service in pockets....I needed some kind of broth soup to feed my baby and asked a waiter at the lunch buffet one day if he could find me something. He ordered it for me from room service and delivered it to my table (I didn't know they had chicken soup at room service and had had spent two days searching for broth soups!) Our room steward was great. I was glad Disney resolved my complaint. My biggest problem, however, was that Disney is training A LOT of people on the job. As I pointed out to the manager, I realized that people needed to be trained, but I had paid a lot of money and didn't want to train them on my cruise - I wanted them to arrive at my table trained!!

We also had problems with the condition of the Magic. I didn't notice the little things that people have complained about - rust spots, chipped tiles, dirty chandelier, etc. I did notice that the entire ship was out of hot water for a day. It was especially irritating, because I went to take a shower and found no hot water and called maintenance. The lady took my room number and said "you don't have any hot water??" like it was a big surprise and room specific. My in-laws also didn't have hot water next door. I decided to go to the changing rooms on deck nine in the spa for a shower and found it was also cold. There was another lady doing the same thing because her shower was cold. When I left the spa, I mentioned it to the ladies at the front desk thinking that no one knew there was a water problem. That is when she said "oh, the entire ship is without water and has been since noon. THey didn't expect so many people to be coming back to take showers right now" THis was at 5 pm when the ship was in St. Maarten and everyone was getting ready for pirate night!!! I thought the maintenance people should have told me they knew about the problem. I also spent most of that dinner wondering how they had washed their hands and cleaned the dishes without hot water. At least I was only without hot water for a day. I talked to a couple of people that told me they hadn't had hot water the first 3 days of the cruise.

The kids had a great time, but the crew really seemed surprised by the number of kids and unfamiliar with how to manage a crowd - very un DIsney. The first Princess gathering occured on Monday. It clearly stated in the Navigator it would be repeated on Thursday. The line was so long that 30 minutes prior to it starting they were telling people at the end of the line that it would be repeated and to come back on Thursday.

We opted for the Thursday princess gathering. As we watched the princesses file in, Aurora wasn't there. On the Monday princess gathering, Aurora, Tiana, Cinderalla, Belle, Snow White, Alice and Peter Pan had all been present. I asked a CM where we could find Aurora. She told me they had decided not to include her, Alice or Peter Pan in this gathering because it had been too crowded on Monday. I was kind of suprised that the CMs had not been prepared for the amount of little girls who would come to a princess gathering and didn't know how to manage the crowds. Hasn't DCL been doing princess gatherings on the Magic for years??? But, the worst part was that Aurora was not only NOT coming to the princess gathering, she wasn't out again at all until the party the final night. My daughter was in tears about missing her favorite princess which made me really irritated that I had followed the navigators and assumed it really would be repeated on the second day. My 4 year old couldn't stay awake until 10:30pm to see her the final night. They also closed the Oceaners Club down for the day we were in St. Thomas. They ended up cancelling half the activities in the lab and half in the club and combining the groups together there. My kids still had fun, but they had highlighted activities they wanted to do that day from the navigators and were dissapointed that they weren't offered because the Club was closed. Not at all sure why they did that.

We re-booked on board so I could have the discount if I decide to cruise again. However, right now I think there is probably a greater chance that we won't - at least until Disney has finished putting out new ships and can catch up with training the crews.
 
So sorry to hear about your less than "Magical" cruise. So very unlike Disney! Our family will be on the Magic again in October. I sure hope they have these problems ironed out by then.
 
Sounds horrible, so sorry. This definitely doesn't sound like Disney. We are booked to go on the Fantasy in June 2012. I really hope everything is worked out by then especially as high as the price has gone up.:confused3
 
That really is a shame. So sorry that your experience was not everything it should have been!
 

so sorry to hear about your experience. how unfortunate for you and your family on your vacation. as others said, it doesn't sound like disney.

we just returned from the wonder (vs magic). the service we had was very good and our dining team and the room host did leave us with an impression they wanted to provide wonderful service and did. we had a similar experience last spring on the magic in our mediterranean cruise as well. i would have been very disappointed too if we had a bad experience so i'm sorry for your situation.
 
Thank you for sharing your experience! As someone who has never cruised, I was considering booking something on DCL for 2012, as the kids were both very interested, having seen the recent commercials and TV coverage for the Dream. Posts like yours have convinced me that we'll save our money for now. DCL just doesn't sound like a good product at this point, and the Disney brand overall is more than a little tarnished for me at this point (both because of negative reviews of late, and also - primarily - personal experience with a number of issues on our recent WDW trip).
 
. . . Service ranged from absolutely awful to just OK with a few exceptional spots.
With DCL placing so much emphasis on the Dream, I'm not surprised service on the Magic has suffered.

Woody
 
Sorry that your magical trip wasn't so magical. Hopefully, the newbies will learn quickly!

It's also a shame that Aurora didn't come out....
 
Not good, so sorry for your special trip...one could be like you and think that some of the complaints are too picky..but this seems to be a trend...I can understand how difficult it must be to teach 3000 new employees (probably more if you consider port agents etc.) the 'Disney' way..but I think with these types of reports trickling in that Disney needs to do something for these first 6 months of cruising (on all ships)...

Perhaps offer a better on board discount for a future trip to prove that they can work out the kinks and that customer service is their priority. But, I firmly believe that everyone who has concerns/complaints should make it known BEFORE they leave the ship...sometimes we just get complacent and try to focus more on forgetting the bad and moving on that the ship honestly doesn't realize to what extent the standard has dropped for passengers.

I would ask someone to have Aurora send your daughter a postcard..I'd be happy to, we sail in one month...you can pm me your address and I'll put it with the pillowcase we're having signed...I can specifically ask for Aurora!

Tara
 
I'm really sorry to hear about this, too. Especially because we'll be traveling on the same cruise here in 47 days, our first DCL cruise. :sad1:

I have always felt very strongly that consumers need to very respectfully speak up when things like this happen, and I applaud you for doing that. The companies that strive to please will listen and change it.

Your experience sounds so bad that I really think you ought to call DCL and let them know about your frustrations as well. Particularly not having hot water and slow service. Sounds like the other problems did get taken care of, at least to some extent. I would just call the reservation line and ask how you would go about making an official complaint and then be as specific as you can.

As someone who will be sailing on this ship soon, I would really appreciate them being made aware of your difficulties before my trip. :worship: And when I have done this sort of thing in the past with companies that aim to please, I often find that they try to make it up to me. Who knows, maybe you can get a postcard from Aurora from your daughter or a discount on a future cruise or something. But if nothing else, you'll have tried to make things better for future DCL travelers. I would let them know that you wanted to share your negative experience because Disney is a good company who aims to please, and that wasn't your experience this time. I would let them know that you know it's not the fault of the person you're speaking with at that moment, but you're hoping they can pass it on to the "higher powers" there at Disney to make a difference. :goodvibes

I almost feel like forwarding your post to Disney myself, but I really think you would need to be the one to do it. :grouphug:

Sorry your trip wasn't everything you Dreamed of!
 
Sorry you guys had such bad service. We were on the same cruise as you and had WONDERFUL service & a wonderful time! Everyone we came in contact with anywhere on the ship was nothing but helpful, very friendly & just plain great. We did notice a little ware & tare on the magic but nothing too big & nothing we haven't seen at expensive hotels. Not only did we love the cruise, we loved the Magic & we re-booked for the western Caribbean on the Magic next Jan.
 
Gosh! You had a bad cruise for sure with no hot water, the clubs closing and a horrible assistant. Luckily we didn't have any of those problem on the 1/8/11 cruise. I had been nervous about it though after reading the reports here. I didn't see anything wrong with the interior areas of the ship either and was looking for issues. Our servers were not as good as our previous favorites but then I would never expect anyone to top them. They were okay though and friendly and we did get food and drink in a timely manner. We have never gotten out of the dining rooms in an hour on DCL and this was our 7th cruise. I honestly do not think that is possible, especially for the light show in AP since the courses are timed to the music. We are usually there almost 2 hours, especially when cruising with friends, and we spend the time catching up on the day's activities with the kids. We have always seen CMs selling water at a cart by the elevators before you get off the ship. I wonder why they didn't have that set up?
 
I'm sorry you had so many issues on your cruise! We were on the 1/22 Western and didn't experience any of the things you did. We did have a new assistant server, and there were some problems with things like bringing white milk instead of chocolate milk for the kids, but we didn't let it get to us. We could tell he was trying and by the end of the cruise he had really gotten the hang of those ketchup Mickey heads, lol. Our server was fantastic and he had us laughing so hard every night that you could tell the tables around us wished they had our server too. We had no issues with the kids clubs closing, although one evening they sent all the boys to the Club while the girls went to the Lab to get their make-up/nails done.

One thing to consider regarding all the "new" crew members is that not all of them are new to working for cruise lines. I'm not sure if you had the same server as us, but he had previously been with RCL and has been with DCL for 3 months, so although he was new to DCL, he was very experienced.

Again, I'm sorry you didn't have such a "magical" trip. For those of you reconsidering your trips, I think no matter where you choose to vacation, there will be a handful of folks who don't experience the best service, for whatever reason. You can often read here about different families sailing on the same cruise with very different experiences. This was my second DCL cruise, and I'm looking forward to my third (whenever that might be). :goodvibes
 
We were on this cruise as well and I too have to say the dining part was terrible. This was our 5th cruise so we noticed the difference. Some of the older servers are on there so if you were lucky to get one great. I could tell the difference from our servers and the ones that served us at lunch. Our dinner was 5:45 too and we didn't get entrees sometimes until 7:30. And then it was cold or just luke warm. Something is definitely off.

I also do not like how they bunched the kids together. I think they should go back to the 5-7 , 7-11 age groups again. The lab was terrible for my 10 year old dd. To many to make flubber and cookies. And we were there early to sign her in and she didnt' get to do it that time. :sad2: It is this way because parents wanted siblings together. I also never saw the Oceaneer club closed either. But I did this time. :confused3

Also missed the terminal people coming out and waving the big Mickey hands.....
 
so sorry to hear about your experience. how unfortunate for you and your family on your vacation. as others said, it doesn't sound like disney.

we just returned from the wonder (vs magic). the service we had was very good and our dining team and the room host did leave us with an impression they wanted to provide wonderful service and did. we had a similar experience last spring on the magic in our mediterranean cruise as well. i would have been very disappointed too if we had a bad experience so i'm sorry for your situation.

@mrosen: Glad to hear that the Wonder seems to be holding up with all the org changes afoot (or alfoat?). Sounds like you just completed the MR - any other things you liked/disliked that you can share with us DCL Wonder MR n00bs? (DH and I actually veterans of 5 Regent cruises -technically one with with Paul Gaugin in Tahiti which at the time was Regent, now it is its own company- and myself 1 river cruise in the Seine last year with Avalon) this DCL cruise purely is for family (DD's 9 and 7 1/2 respectively) enjoyment and adjusting our expectations as such e.g. I expect to be blown away with Disney service and entertainment, not so much with the food...hate to say the food p0rn link on this site has yet to blow me away except for Remi on the Dream, which is another kettle of fish...please don't flame me but on Regent you eat "Remy Style" wine included every night in the main dining room - but hence, this is Disney not Regent so we are very much looking forward to the DCL experience and have adjusted our expectations foodwise to merit...therfore my comparison with Regent ends here...
 
so sorry to hear about your experience. how unfortunate for you and your family on your vacation. as others said, it doesn't sound like disney.

we just returned from the wonder (vs magic). the service we had was very good and our dining team and the room host did leave us with an impression they wanted to provide wonderful service and did. we had a similar experience last spring on the magic in our mediterranean cruise as well. i would have been very disappointed too if we had a bad experience so i'm sorry for your situation.

double post, sorrypirate:
 
This makes me so sad. :sad2: Our first cruise was on the Magic, and it was completely Magical! We had awesome servers. It spoiled us for our recent RCL we took in October 2010. We were so disappointed in service, activities and crowd control that we vowed to only pay for DCL cruises in the future. I hope things improve, and I'm sure they will with feedback. I have been raving to everyone about how great DCL is as opposed to RCL. Now I'm embarrassed to have taken such a strong stand.:upsidedow
 
I've been following these threads lately and found them really interesting. Some people have great experiences and some not so great- a lot of it centered on the dining rooms.

Last month we did the Panama Canal on the Wonder and we definetely noticed some decrease in dining room service. I think that's always were it's so noticable since eating is something you do three times a day, every day and is where you come into the most contact with the crew. We were very lucky and had a WONDERFUL server, but some of the folks we saw at breakfast and lunch weren't great. We took many a "tour" through the dining room with a new (gosh we hope they were new) CM to find our table and there were two separate lunches were I finished my food before a drink ever showed up. The servers seemed to be either very experienced from working at Disney awhile OR brand new to the cruise line and maybe food service all together.

I think that's why there's such a wide range of experiences and reports coming back from the ships right now. I do think that Disney needs to make some fast adjustments though and get their dining crews up to speed. A bad experience there really sticks with someone.
 
ITA - The whole "Disney experience" is why so many of us justify the higher prices.
 

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