Seniors for McCain

[wardfamily1]

I think you are correct, no matter how flamed you get.

I strongly believe that my liberal 76 year old mother does not like Obama is because he is black. She cannot articulate what she does not like about him. She just says he makes her uneasy.
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SO then what do you say about all the Hillary supporter (young and old alike) that will not vote for Obama? Are they all racist?

Obama rubs a LOT of people the wrong way with his 'clinging to their guns' and 'American's can't speak French' comments amongst other things. I don't think it has to do with race, it's the fact that Obama is a Elitist (or Snob if you don't like the 'E' word).

 

[gottaluvPluto]

I know I am going to get a big Flame for this one, but I am going to put it out there.

For the "Mature" Americans that have been LIFELONG Dems are switching to the Republican side? They don't like Obama, as PP's have stated.

Is it because he is black? I think that is an honest question and really deserves an honest answer. Many in the Democratic Party don't think this is an issue, I disagree and think it is just being pushed to the wasteside and it should not be, it should be addressed.

I know my grandfather - god rest his soul - would have a really hard time voting for Obama because he is black, he comes from a different time and had his views even though he was a Democrat I think he would have to vote for Mccain.

I am NOT looking for a fight or HUGE negative debate I feel that many are pushing this aside and that is why people are "Voting against him"

Flame suit on

Some older people will not vote for him because of his race, but I don't think it is a huge number.

Since you brought this up, lets look at it another way. I live in a primarily black neighborhood. Majority of my neighbors are voting for Obama based on his color. They don't know the issues and they just want a black person in as a president. They see this more of a civil rights issue. Their words not mine.

 

[Chicago526]

My father (age 70) is a life long republican, and has lived in AZ for about 10 years now. He can't stand McCain but, surprise surprise, is still voting for him. He just can't bring himself to vote for a Dem, no matter how lousy the Rep running is. (and I don't believe it's due to race).

 

[LotsOfQuestions]

SO then what do you say about all the Hillary supporter (young and old alike) that will not vote for Obama? Are they all racist?

Obama rubs a LOT of people the wrong way with his 'clinging to their guns' and 'American's can't speak French' comments amongst other things. I don't think it has to do with race, it's the fact that Obama is a Elitist (or Snob if you don't like the 'E' word).

I have no idea what their motivations are.

We are discussing seniors here and what might be their motivation. I am highly suspect of my aging parents' reasons and I have heard it right out of their mouths from other seniors that they are not voting because of race.

You may not want to believe it has anything to do with race, but I have heard it point blank from a small segment of seniors that it has everything to do with race.

 

[LotsOfQuestions]

Some older people will not vote for him because of his race, but I don't think it is a huge number.

Since you brought this up, lets look at it another way. I live in a primarily black neighborhood. Majority of my neighbors are voting for Obama based on his color. They don't know the issues and they just want a black person in as a president. They see this more of a civil rights issue. Their words not mine.

It just goes to show that there are many reasons why people will vote for somebody.

And it rarely has to do with actual nuts and bolts issues.

The majority vote on perception, which is why negative campaigning is so effective.

 

[Lionqueen2]

Well, I know my MIL definitely is not a racist. Obama's color had nothing to do with her decision to vote republican. She feels that Obama will not improve the health care system in this country despite his promises and that his plan seems so expensive that it is unrealistic and she has numerous other issues with Obama also. She doesn't feel that Obama has any interest in senior issues and that as a group, he is tossing them aside.
Although MIL has a lot of disagreement with Obama, race is not a factor in her decision. I think it is sad that so many Obama supporters see only race as a reason for voting against him. For those voting for Obama because of race, and those thinking that voting against him is because of race, perhaps it is time to take a look at Obama's agenda and start realizing that that may be the problem.

 

[Magic Mom]

Exactly. It can't be because they can think for themselves and disagree with wanting a socialist to run our country....it must be because he's black

You know in the end that's what it will come down to. If (yes I said If) McCain wins, his entire time in office we will hear how racism won him the election. The minds of the far left (to include most of the print and television media) can't conceive of the idea that regular Americans care more about issues than skin color.

 

[LotsOfQuestions]

I think it is sad that so many Obama supporters see only race as a reason for voting against him.

I don't think a single Obama supporter here has ever stated that race is the only reason that people are voting against him.

But it is sadly one of the reasons.

Just like I bet there will be some extreme chauvinists out there (and they do exist) that won't vote for McCain because he has a woman on the ticket.

 

[Took]

I don't think a single Obama supporter here has ever stated that race is the only reason that people are voting against him.

But it is sadly one of the reasons.

Just like I bet there will be some extreme chauvinists out there (and they do exist) that won't vote for McCain because he has a woman on the ticket.

Exactly. In fact, I think it's more likely that race is a factor for those who claim to be "life-long" dems and who cannot vote for BO than for those who are Rep and are not voting for him.

McCain is another Bush, whatever he may say. He lost my respect when he hugged on him during the 2004 election after saying incisive and true things about how wrong-headed this admin was. I supported him then. Not anymore--same old thing now. change, my foot!

 

[Pete's Mom]

It just goes to show that there are many reasons why people will vote for somebody.

And it rarely has to do with actual nuts and bolts issues.

The majority vote on perception, which is why negative campaigning is so effective.

I don't think a single Obama supporter here has ever stated that race is the only reason that people are voting against him.

But it is sadly one of the reasons.

Just like I bet there will be some extreme chauvinists out there (and they do exist) that won't vote for McCain because he has a woman on the ticket.

Well said! I think both sides are guilty of falling into negative campaigning. I can't ever remember an election being this heated or ugly. I can admit reading something that made me so angry, that I wanted to post something equally ugly but stopped. It's easy to get sucked into the negativity when emotions run high.

Right now, I worry about the future of what will happen AFTER the election regardless of which party wins. Whether or not we will all be able to pull it together or if there will be a terrible backlash against the next administration. It makes me angry to know that our enemies are sitting back, gleefully rubbing their hands together hoping that America will implode.

 

[duckfan78]

Well from what I hear most the seniors I know are voting McCain.

Its funny, I was at a trade show last night for work. It is basically a show of the metropolitan area. Now most of the people in the industry are older and have been around a while.

I talked to a bunch of them, and did not find one who likes Obama. All of them were voting McCain. I found this strange since it was the NJ/NY area.

I was shocked also to see the Rasmussen poll that showed Obama ahead only 2 in NJ and only 5 in NY.

 

[manning]

I'm curious, since this thread is titled Seniors for McCain...do seniors not care about the health care system? Obama is looking to improve that...is McCain? Because right now the health care system stinks. My parents can attest to that. My FIL lost his entire life savings in just one year of illness. I would honestly think that would be a major issue for seniors.

Then again with Obama's plan he can die waiting for treatment.

Number 253, calling 253, 253

number 254 .............

 

[What the Heck]

I'm curious, since this thread is titled Seniors for McCain...do seniors not care about the health care system? Obama is looking to improve that...is McCain? Because right now the health care system stinks. My parents can attest to that. My FIL lost his entire life savings in just one year of illness. I would honestly think that would be a major issue for seniors.

For some of them, it's perhaps because they have seen promises like this before and know they have no chance of happening. Obama could have the best of intentions with them, but it has 0 chance of happening. And if it does, it has 0 chance of working. It still allows for rampant legal actions, which is a force that must be headed off (as well as the healthcare field and the insurance industry) before any kind of change will work. I don't necessarily like McCains plan either.

As for the one question of if race is part of the issue, I would have to say it probably is to some degree. I don't think it is large enough of a force to win even 1 state, but to ignore it I don't think is the truth. In fact, in many states, the whites who won't vote for him because he's black are probably offset by the blacks who are voting for him because he's black.

As for the seniors voting for McCain, I have a story about that. I work in a Senior Living Community and I was passing by this one resident who was having a conversation with one of the outside caretakers and the only part of the conversation I heard was "what do you MEAN he's too old?" (I was waiting for the man to catch fire ). Anyway, many of those who live there are still very sharp in their thoughts even into their 90's. One of the residents would tell her family - "it's my body thats giving out on me, not my mind".

 

[jamesrthomas2006]

I havent chosen McCain or Obama. Im still undecided. My question is how will McCain help to fix the economy? Its very alarming whats happening in the economy. The national debt is now 9 trillion dollars, its increased more than 500% percent!

I was reading a quote from McCain where he admits that he knows nothing about the economy and then later tries to take it back in another interview. Its hard to have military power and take care of our veterans and troops when we cant pay for it. My family is usually Republican but they are saying now that Obama is the better candidate because he has more economic experience and he doesnt take money from lobbyists.

What does everyone else think?

 

[Christine]

My mother is 64 (and working 12 hours a day in a very demanding job). She is a Republican and, as far as I know, has never voted Democrat. She is not voting for McCain. She does feel he is too old. That's not why she's not voting for him, but it was a comment. That was her perception after the debate on Friday.

I think my mom is EXTREMELY concerned about the economy and the state of her retirement.

 

[disneyjunkie]

I guess I'll get flamed also. I think race plays a huge part in a life long Dem not voting for Obama.

As far as black voting based on race, I'm not buying it.

If we voted solely on race, Obama wouldn't be the first to have made it this far. He would be the 5th.

Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Shirley Chilsom, Lenora Fulani

If blacks vote based on race, why didn't these people make it to this point? If we're talking race only, Fulani, should have been the Dems worst night mare. She’s black and a woman! She should have pulled all the black voters and many of the women, away from the democratic party. It didn't happen.

McCain won't win the black vote because he is a republican, not because he's white.

 

[disneyjunkie]

One quick question.


For those of you who say you know blacks who are voting for Obama based on race, have those people ever voted for a republican in a presidential race?

 

[sweetandsassyfl]

My roommate, who called me a racist the other day because I'm voting for McCain and not voting for "a man who can save the country JUST because he's black" (um, no...I'm voting for McCain because he's the Republican nominee and I would have liked to see him as Pres. back in 2004....sounds to me like she's more racist than I am), voted for Bush over Kerry.

 

[JARNJ3]

Well from what I hear most the seniors I know are voting McCain.

Its funny, I was at a trade show last night for work. It is basically a show of the metropolitan area. Now most of the people in the industry are older and have been around a while.

I talked to a bunch of them, and did not find one who likes Obama. All of them were voting McCain. I found this strange since it was the NJ/NY area.

I was shocked also to see the Rasmussen poll that showed Obama ahead only 2 in NJ and only 5 in NY.

I wonder how those polls are looking now?

There's a theory going round that there is a reverse Bradley effect going around. People are saying they won't vote for Obama to their friends - but when they get in the booth - they will pull the lever for him........

Time will tell........

My 78 Dad is voting for Obama, and proud to do so. He "doesn't trust a republican as far as he can throw him!" Apparently, Bush is a failure too (in his opinion........)

 

[Tigger Woods]

I did not call anyone a racist, I just want an honest answer.

My stepfather was not going to vote for Obama b/c he was black. He can get upset with me, I don't care. I still love him

However, after watching the DNC and hearing Obama speak he realized that he needs to vote for Obama because our country needs this change and he knows that after being a lifelong Democrat he stands for and beleives in the Democratic Party NOT the Republican Party.

Wow, your racist stepfather heard the Great One speak, and was instantly 'healed'? Halleluiah!