Senators to Vote on Stimulus bill without even reading it!

Laz

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They are about to put the American voter in debt for decades and they won't even take the time to read the bill. These people could care less what they are doing. :sad2:

http://cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=43478


In addition, Drudge (so it must be verified) reports Pelosi wants a quick vote so she can hurry off to Rome! Like she is really worried about us tax payers!

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashpr.htm

HURRY, FELLAS, LET'S VOTE, I AM OFF TO ROME!
Fri Feb 13 2009 09:18:52 ET

Rep. John Culberson, TX claims the "stimulus" bill must be urgently voted on today -- because Speaker Nancy Pelosi is leaving at 6:00 PM for an 8 day trip to Europe!

Culberson made the charge on Houston's KSEV radio.

Pelosi is hoping to lead a delegation to Europe; there's a meeting with the Pope and an award from an Italian legislative group.

Calls to Pelosi's spokesman went unreturned.

In the rushing, Democrats have now broken their promise to have the public see the $790 billion bill for 48 hours before any vote.

Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) predicted that none of his Senate colleagues would 'have the chance' to read the entire final version of the 1,071-page bill before it comes up for a final vote.

Developing...
 
Number one rule in life is never sign or vote for something you haven't read. It is a sad day for the American people because we don't even get to truly voice our opinions.
 
I was reading about this last night. Apparently they voted 2 days ago that the spendulous would be posted on the internet for the public to look over for at least 48 hours prior to any vote, additionally the bill would be made available to all congressmen and senators for at least 48 hours prior to any vote. They announced last night that they would be voting this morning and while many lobbyist had copies of the bill most congressmen hadn't received it yet:scared1: . How on earth can they vote on this without a clue as to what they are voting for??? I hope with all my heart that they get many many more no votes because of this, but like you said they don't care and will likely just pass it:sad2: .

Tina
 

I doubt many bills ever get fully read before they are voted on, in all administrations. Do you think they will sit down and read 800 pages. They have staff members going through sections for them and reporting on it but I'll bet no bill is ever actually read by a voting member of either party. This tells me that the language is way too complicated and leagalesque.
 
I'll probably will get flamed for this but I think people really need to start looking outside the two party system. We need change or the government is going to distroy the US. People need to wake up and see how the government is destroying the US and taking the citizen's rights away. I fear what the country will be like when my children grow up.
 
I'll probably will get flamed for this but I think people really need to start looking outside the two party system. We need change or the government is going to distroy the US. People need to wake up and see how the government is destroying the US and taking the citizens rights away. I fear what the country will be like when my children grow up.

I understand your frustration. I am not ready to throw away the 2 party system yet, but am ready to throw out all the politicians in office. In both parties.

We need term limits. NOW! I just hope we don't need a Cincinnatus to make this happen.

JMO
 
I understand your frustration. I am not ready to throw away the 2 party system yet, but am ready to throw out all the politicians in office. In both parties.

We need term limits. NOW! I just hope we don't need a Cincinnatus to make this happen.

JMO

In the last election I voted against every single incumbent, all the way down to school board. It doesn't matter which party. I will continue to do so until the voters wake up and do the same.
 
I doubt many bills ever get fully read before they are voted on, in all administrations. Do you think they will sit down and read 800 pages. They have staff members going through sections for them and reporting on it but I'll bet no bill is ever actually read by a voting member of either party. This tells me that the language is way too complicated and leagalesque.

It seems impossible for some to offer the slightest criticism of their preferred political party. This rationalization is just ridiculous. It is ok to support the legislation. However, anyone who cannot see that this enormous and complex bill is being pushed through under the cover of darkness is in complete denial. Don't you think that some responsible citizens might want to take a look at this and have the opportunity to contact their respective representatives? This is not the transparancy we were promised.
 
I understand your frustration. I am not ready to throw away the 2 party system yet, but am ready to throw out all the politicians in office. In both parties.

We need term limits. NOW! I just hope we don't need a Cincinnatus to make this happen.

JMO


We need to repeal 2 U.S.C. sec. 2 and have term limits!! Then we will have hope and change.
 
It seems impossible for some to offer the slightest criticism of their preferred political party. This rationalization is just ridiculous. It is ok to support the legislation. However, anyone who cannot see that this enormous and complex bill is being pushed through under the cover of darkness is in complete denial. Don't you think that some responsible citizens might want to take a look at this and have the opportunity to contact their respective representatives? This is not the transparancy we were promised.

It's not a rationalization or excuse at all. I stated that the language is too complicated and legalesque making it impossible to read every page of an 800 page bill. This is how all our bills are written now, and I hate to say it, but Senators of both parties do NOT sit down and read every word of every bill they vote on. They just don't.
 
It's not a rationalization or excuse at all. I stated that the language is too complicated and legalesque making it impossible to read every page of an 800 page bill. This is how all our bills are written now, and I hate to say it, but Senators of both parties do NOT sit down and read every word of every bill they vote on. They just don't.

Fair enough. Why the need to rush it through? At the very least these actions give the impression that our poiticians are hiding something.
 
Fair enough. Why the need to rush it through? At the very least these actions give the impression that our poiticians are hiding something.

You're right. Maybe they should change the rule to make it a 7 day waiting/review period for all legislation. Overall, the language should be clear enough so that everyday people could understand what was being written, even if they didn't have a law degree. Unfortunately that 's not the case.
 
the thing is there is no point to change the rule if they are going to not follow it. The rule they just voted on was 48 hours - they didn't even follow that.

I agree term limits!!!! We the people all of us need to stand up for term limits.
 
The reason for the rush is that congress is off next week and they're ALL heading out of town, Not just Pelosi!!

As far as not reading the bill, how many people here would actually take the time to read the entire 800+ pages? Did you read every word of the contract when you bought your house or car? I DON'T THINK SO!!!
 
The reason for the rush is that congress is off next week and they're ALL heading out of town, Not just Pelosi!!

As far as not reading the bill, how many people here would actually take the time to read the entire 800+ pages? Did you read every word of the contract when you bought your house or car? I DON'T THINK SO!!!

I did read my entire financing contract for my house and my car. It would have been foolish not to have read it.
 


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