Segmenting - Can anyone PLEASE Help, THANK YOU!

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I have never done DDP before and wanted to know if you all think I can do the following:

I will be at BLT for 5 nights and want DDP for only 3 nights.
Does below work and do you think this is a good choice. We are 3 adults and 2 teens. We all enjoy a good meal and my teens order steaks, fish and pastas for dinner (as well as the adults). Our dinner choices are usually on the higher end price wise on the menu:


Wednesday, August 31 - Arrive around 9 pm. No Dining Plan

Thursday, September 1 - DINNER: Rose and Crown - DINING PLAN

Friday, September 2 - DINNER: Kona Cafe - DINING PLAN

Saturday, September 3, 2011 - No Dining Plan
DINNER: Citricos OOP

Sunday, September 4, 2011 - Ohana - DINING PLAN

Do you think above is a good idea and can I do it and how do I do it?

Thank you so much!
 
I have never done DDP before and wanted to know if you all think I can do the following:

I will be at BLT for 5 nights and want DDP for only 3 nights.
Does below work and do you think this is a good choice. We are 3 adults and 2 teens. We all enjoy a good meal and my teens order steaks, fish and pastas for dinner (as well as the adults). Our dinner choices are usually on the higher end price wise on the menu:


Wednesday, August 31 - Arrive around 9 pm. No Dining Plan

Thursday, September 1 - DINNER: Rose and Crown - DINING PLAN

Friday, September 2 - DINNER: Kona Cafe - DINING PLAN

Saturday, September 3, 2011 - No Dining Plan
DINNER: Citricos OOP

Sunday, September 4, 2011 - Ohana - DINING PLAN

Do you think above is a good idea and can I do it and how do I do it?

Thank you so much!

Can anyone please help me. I have been on the Dining Boards but people there tell me to come here regarding segmenting. Is it a big deal.
Someone posted to me that they think it would be too much trouble.

Also, I am trying to switch Rose and Crown to Coral Reef but no availability. I'll keep trying.
 
There have been more reports of successful stories of segmenting. But it is possible each segment may require spending a few hours at the front desk as they sort out any issue(s) issues may include no credits available when you eat, so you have to charge to the room and sort it out later. At a minimum you will spend 10 minutes at the front desk to get new keys for each segment.

Segmenting requires new room cards for each segment .
Segmenting usually requires a MS supervisor to segment the reservation (otherwise you may loose nights of your reservation while they release and add segments)

If I'm thinking correctly, DDP credits are valid til midnight of check-out, so just get 3 consecutive DDP days to use over 4 nights. (And fewer segments, simplicity is a good thing)
 
You can do what you are aksing but why bother with the trouble- just get all the days with the dining plan and instead of paying OOP at Citricos use the 2 credits for it. Some people have had luck with segments and other have had daily long trips to the front desk. If you have never used the plan before then I would suggest just doing it for the whole stay instead of segmenting.
 

There have been more reports of successful stories of segmenting. But it is possible each segment may require spending a few hours at the front desk as they sort out any issue(s) issues may include no credits available when you eat, so you have to charge to the room and sort it out later. At a minimum you will spend 10 minutes at the front desk to get new keys for each segment.

Segmenting requires new room cards for each segment .
Segmenting usually requires a MS supervisor to segment the reservation (otherwise you may loose nights of your reservation while they release and add segments)

If I'm thinking correctly, DDP credits are valid til midnight of check-out, so just get 3 consecutive DDP days to use over 4 nights. (And fewer segments, simplicity is a good thing)

You can do what you are aksing but why bother with the trouble- just get all the days with the dining plan and instead of paying OOP at Citricos use the 2 credits for it. Some people have had luck with segments and other have had daily long trips to the front desk. If you have never used the plan before then I would suggest just doing it for the whole stay instead of segmenting.

Thank you both.
I will figure out the prices and try to see best option.

The thing is though the following:

Wednesday, August 31 - Arriving Late so no dining needed

Thursday, September 1 - Rose and Crown (Trying to move to Coral Reef)

Friday, September 2 - Kona Cafe

Saturday, September 3 - Citricos (Was going to do this OOP)

Sunday, September 4, Ohana

Monday, September 5 - Leaving very early do not need Dining

Given above, what would you experts do?
Thank you.
 
Thank you both.
I will figure out the prices and try to see best option.

The thing is though the following:

Wednesday, August 31 - Arriving Late so no dining needed

Thursday, September 1 - Rose and Crown (Trying to move to Coral Reef)

Friday, September 2 - Kona Cafe

Saturday, September 3 - Citricos

Sunday, September 4, Ohana

Monday, September 5 - Leaving very early do not need Dining

Given above, what would you experts do?
Thank you.

I would get it for Thursday, Friday and Saturday, if 3 nights were in my budget. The credits are good Until midnite Sunday.

If I were to segment it would be regular plan Thursday and Friday nights and deluxe dining plan on Saturday night which would take care of your Citricos on Saturday and Ohana on Sunday.
 
It might be a close call, but as a PP pointed out, your dining plans are a "perfect match" for just using the regular DDP (w/out segmenting) for your whole stay...it all depends on how much you'd spend at Citrico's...

Generally, using DDP for signature (2-credit) meals isn't a great use of the DDP...you pretty much have to get the most expensive item on the menu (or close to it) AND want dessert to realize any savings...but in this case, you may save a bit (depending on your food choices) and you'd definitely save yourself some hassle factor...

Here's some math for you to consider:

If you think your Ctricos orders--drink plus entree plus dessert--will total $46 (or more) per person, it makes sense to not bother segmenting and just go w/the DDP-

A quick look at the current Citricos dinner menu shows entrees ranging from $23 to $46 ...desserts are $8-$9 each--no prices are shown for soft drinks...but if memory serves, they're around $4...

So, if you figure you'll get the least expensive item on the menu (seared tofu for $23), each meal will be $37 (give or take). But you say your kids like steak...the steak/beef choices are $38-$42, so that meal would be $51-$55...

Keep in mind that DVC stays on points do not carry a seasonal surcharge--I presume you're staying at DVC on points, since you posted on the DVC forum, but if not, you need to factor in whether the surcharge applies during your dates ...

So...it could cost you $9-$10/person to use DDP if you think you'll order seared tofu and an $8 dessert...if, however, you think you'll choose the short ribs or salmon or veal shank or pork or filet of beef or snapper, and a $9 dessert, you'll save from $5 to $9 per person...

Somehow, I'm thinking a family of teenagers who like their beef is probably not going to order five seared tofu meals...but maybe the chicken breast would tempt you...that's $29--add in $9 for dessert and $4 for a soft drink and that totals $42...so the DDP would cost you $4/person more than paying OOP...if all of you order the chicken, that is.

Another complicating factor: will you order dessert? (You'll pay OOP for appetizers either way)...if not, that's $8 to $9/person that you wouldn't pay that is part of the DDP cost...

So, there's your math...

On the one extreme...seared tofu, w/no dessert--your DDP cost is $46 per person, your OOP cost is $27 per person...times five people, that's a savings of $95 to pay OOP...on the other extreme, if you order five veal shank meals (the most expensive choice), at $46/person, and get a $9 dessert, you save $13/person, or $65.

(Keep in mind these are not total costs, either under the DDP or OOP...appetizers cost extra and you also have to pay the tip w/DDP; for OOP you also have to add in tax)...

Next question: is a total of $65 (likely the maximum savings of paying for Citricos OOP rather than just using your DDP w/out segmenting) worth the hassle factor of segmenting? At a minimum you need to go to the front desk on the day you segment to get new room keys. That could be quick and easy, or it could take some time--the luck of the draw in terms of lines, CM skill level, and "the mood of the computer" that day. You may or may not run into issues when you go to use your DDP the day after you segmented out of it.

Hope this helps...
 
Have you thought about getting the DxDDP for night 2 and night 4.

The credits from night 2 would be good for Rose and Crown and Kona Cafe--plus give you an extra credit you could use for CS, unless you go to Coral Reef, which is 2 TS credits, I believe

Then, get it for night 4 and it would cover Citricos (2 TS, I think) and Ohana.

Price for the plan would be $158 and it would cover all of those meals. Because it is DxDDP, you get an appetizer as well, plus 2 snacks and the mugs.

Just a thought.
 
You need 5 TS credits for what you have planned. As others posted, just getting the DDP for the whole time covers that exactly.

I don't get the interest in segmenting when you have the ideal reservations already. It's just an extra complication that might cost you more hassle, and will definitely cause you more trips to the front desk.
 
THANK YOU ALL VERY VERY VERY much!

I am so sorry I think I complicated things. My Citricos ressie will be OOP.
My mother is taking us there and we do not need the plan for that night (if you are saying the Dx plan would really not save money for that night then I will keep as is).

I think I need to do what the PP suggested.
Get the dining plan for Thursday, Friday and Saturday and use Saturday's credits on Sunday. Does this sound correct?

If above is correct, what will this mean I have to do with our KTTW cards?
I am checking in on Wednesday evening. Do I need to go to the front desk super early on Thursday since I want to be a RD for EPCOT?

Is it correct that I do not need to go back to the front desk (if I have to go on Thursday) again after Thursday since I am using my Saturday credits on Sunday? Thanks so much you have all been a great help!
 











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