Science Project Prompts Evacuation of the school.

DawnCt1

<font color=red>I had to wonder what "holiday" he
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And all I can say is thank God that Thomas Edison didn't attend this school in 2010. :sad2::rolleyes: Take heart however, the student will be referred for "counseling". In the meantime, perhaps the vice principal can take a basic science course and determine how an empty, clear bottle, is not a hazard. Wires? radios, lights, etc have "wires".

Science project prompts SD school evacuation

By Susan Shroder, Union-Tribune Staff Writer

Friday, January 15, 2010 at 2:04 p.m.

SAN DIEGO — Students were evacuated from Millennial Tech Magnet Middle School in the Chollas View neighborhood Friday afternoon after an 11-year-old student brought a personal science project that he had been making at home to school, authorities said.

Maurice Luque, spokesman for the San Diego Fire-Rescue Department, said the student had been making the device in his home garage. A vice principal saw the student showing it to other students at school about 11:40 a.m. Friday and was concerned that it might be harmful, and San Diego police were notified.

The school, which has about 440 students in grades 6 to 8 and emphasizes technology skills, was initially put on lockdown while authorities responded.

Luque said the project was made of an empty half-liter Gatorade bottle with some wires and other electrical components attached. There was no substance inside.

When police and the Metro Arson Strike Team responded, they also found electrical components in the student's backpack, Luque said. After talking to the student, it was decided about 1 p.m. to evacuate the school as a precaution while the item was examined. Students were escorted to a nearby playing field, and parents were called and told they could come pick up their children.

A MAST robot took pictures of the device and X-rays were evaluated. About 3 p.m., the device was determined to be harmless, Luque said.

Luque said the project was intended to be a type of motion-detector device.

Both the student and his parents were "very cooperative" with authorities, Luque said. He said fire officials also went to the student's home and checked the garage to make sure items there were neither harmful nor explosive.

"There was nothing hazardous at the house," Luque said.

The student will not be prosecuted, but authorities were recommending that he and his parents get counseling, the spokesman said. The student violated school policies, but there was no criminal intent, Luque said.

"There will be no (criminal) charges whatsoever," Luque said.

Police and fire officials also will not seek to recover costs associated with responding to the incident, the spokesman said.

Luque said both the student and his parents were extremely upset.

"He was very shaken by the whole situation, as were his parents," Luque said.

The school is located on Carolina Lane near Hilltop Drive.

Adjacent Gompers Charter Middle School was not affected during the incident, police Sgt. Ray Battrick said.

Millennial Middle School opened in fall 2008. It is part of the San Diego Unified School District.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/jan/15/students-evacuated-school-chollas-view/
 
OMG, talk about an over reaction, that poor kid, I can't believe he has to go to counseling, for freaking what? The fact that at home he does science experiments and tries to learn stuff he probably isn't in school. I can't imagine what would happen if my ds took one of the many projects he and my dh work on at home, or if the authorities ever saw inside my garage. My sub-division would probably be evacuated.
 
I think the school administration needs some counseling. The kid's learned his lesson already, I'm sure his creative/entrepreneurial flame has been somewhat squelched by the whole episode. Why beat it into his head? This reminds me of when schools make the bully AND the kid they picked on get counseling together...*why*?!?

agnes!
 
Thanks for sharing this, DawnCt1...I honestly can't find the words right now to express the frustration and sadness as to how this speaks volumes about where our schools are at and are heading.:sad2:
 

There will be two arguments to this one. One crowd will say "Better safe than sorry" and think the school did the right thing. Then there is the common sense crowd who will wonder why the vice principal of a school that "emphasizes technology skills" couldn't investigate the situation before possibly inciting a panic.

The vice principal is the one needing the counselling here.
 
I remember when I was ten years old, a boy in my class made something similar at home and brought it in to show the teacher.

I don't remember what it was supposed to be, I just remember it was a bottle and it had wires and a battery, I think. The teacher looked at it, then had him come up to the front of the class and explain it to us all. The teacher praised him for experimenting at home and for his creativity - I remember he got a gold star (the BEST thing at that age!) :woohoo:

This is so ridiculous. Don't people have any common sense anymore?!
 
I don't understand why he and his parents need counseling - well unless it's to get over the trauma a bunch of ********* put them through. Yeesh!!!
 
To think my freshman year of high school I made model rocket engines out of common household items. No one called the police on me and I was shooting them off in my neighborhood and shot one off at school.
 
Exactly! Why couldn't a conversation ACTUALLY taken place between the student and the V. principal;

V.P: Johnny, what do you have here?

Johnny: I made a motion detector out of these things.

Duh!!!!!:confused3
 
There will be two arguments to this one. One crowd will say "Better safe than sorry" and think the school did the right thing. Then there is the common sense crowd who will wonder why the vice principal of a school that "emphasizes technology skills" couldn't investigate the situation before possibly inciting a panic.

The vice principal is the one needing the counselling here.

Exactly! Why couldn't a conversation ACTUALLY taken place between the student and the V. principal;

V.P: Johnny, what do you have here?

Johnny: I made a motion detector out of these things.

Duh!!!!!:confused3

Totally agree with both of these.
 
Wow, way overreacting!! But, then again, look at all the posts here where parents are LIVID at their teachers because someone looked at their child wrong and DEMAND to talk to the Superintendent NOW because of it :rolleyes1.

So the VP talks to Johnny and tells him, I love your project but next time bring it to me first and I will let you know if it is ok to show your friends in school. Then someone sees Johnny bringing a BOMB into the principal's office and tells his mom and his mom is LIVID, DEMANDS that the Superintendent expel the child NOW for bringing a BOMB to school.

Schools are darned if they do, darned if they don't--they will never win.
 
The chain of events is rather amusing:

11:40 VP sees student and object and notifies authorities. While authorities respond school is put on "lockdown." (Apparently no one can leave the school, but the suspicious device is still in the school.)

1:00 Police investigate and after speaking with the student it is THEN decided that the school should be evacuated.

Notwithstanding the fact that there was a complete overreaction, if school authorities had a legitimate concern that the device was dangerous why would they wait to evacuate?
 
This is a "tech magnet" school and they don't think these kids are making science projects at home??? They need a new VP, one who understands these kids better!
 
If the student was bringing in a project he should have gotten permission first. That is the reality of the school environment of today. Either the student knew this rule and ignored it or the school was not clear to their students on the rule.

Now since he did not do so, the VP had to follow school protocol because if it was something and he did nothing it would have been his job or worse.

It is a matter of damned if you do and damned if you don't these days.:headache:
 
If the student was bringing in a project he should have gotten permission first. That is the reality of the school environment of today. Either the student knew this rule and ignored it or the school was not clear to their students on the rule.

Now since he did not do so, the VP had to follow school protocol because if it was something and he did nothing it would have been his job or worse.

It is a matter of damned if you do and damned if you don't these days.:headache:

very true.

the student violated some type of school policy and it may well have been put in place to prevent having to take this kind of action.

dd does'nt go to a tech school but even her highschool required the kids to list out and submit in advance what their recent science project componants would be in order to ensure that nothing dangerous or in violation of school/district rules would be brought on the bus or on campus.
 
very true.

the student violated some type of school policy and it may well have been put in place to prevent having to take this kind of action.

dd does'nt go to a tech school but even her highschool required the kids to list out and submit in advance what their recent science project componants would be in order to ensure that nothing dangerous or in violation of school/district rules would be brought on the bus or on campus.


but it was determined that there was nothing dangerous AND the student and parents (as well as the entire community) are aware of the problems so there isn't a future incident.

So why counseling for the entire family????
 
but it was determined that there was nothing dangerous AND the student and parents (as well as the entire community) are aware of the problems so there isn't a future incident.

So why counseling for the entire family????

Maybe there is more to the story. Or maybe it is just a sitdown with the school counselor to go over school policy and the article is blowing it out of proportion.
 
I would think there has to be more to the story. Did the "motion sensor" rely on a mercury switch or something? I've seen people go berserk over a little mercury. Yes, it is harmful, especially of inhaled or swallowed...but I'll bet a lot of people my age remember putting a few drops of mercury in their hand with a penny, and watching the penny turn silver. And this was is a school chemistry class.
 
the science teacher couldn't figure it out? the vp couldn't figure it out?


why am I reminded of the scene in Zoolander, when they are trying to get the "files" out of the computer.

:lmao:
 
For heaven's sake, the whole world has just gone flat out crazy.

We bought my DS a Xbox 360 controller for the specific purpose that he wants to tinker with it using magnets so the trigger moves faster. There will be a device, some solder, and wires involved. Do I need to inform the authorities or register the experiment before I let him proceed or risk a home invasion?
 












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