School projects are out of control.

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We went to a viewing of science projects for my sons 6th grade class. They each did a project on a famous place (park, mountains, cities etc). My son did very well and did 99% of the work himself. He received an A and we are very proud but come on! There is no way some of these projects were not built by the parents. There was some major league woodworking done along with painting and other very adult looking work. What is the point?

Dont even get me started on what these projects cost each family. We have tried the old shoe box route but it seems every project is 30 to 50 dollars at the craft store. This is just wrong!
 
I totally agree. What is up with all the projects this year? Is it because they would normally do these projects in school and don't have time or are they trying to get the families more involved? Our 9 year old recently had a project where the parents were "assigned" part of the project - as in, "this part is for the student to do, this part is for the parents to do, this part is for you to do together"! We even had to sign off when our portion was completed!! I've been to 4th grade, I shouldn't worry about my homework being completed on time. We are VERY involved parents (too much, maybe) and I feel bad for the kids whose parents dont have the time or desire to work on these huge projects. They did tell us that PowerPoint presentations were not necessary for the 4th grade state project, whew!! :rolleyes:
 
My third grader has had some type of project due every month since Christmas. We just finished his diagram of the Solar System this morning. Two weeks ago it was a mobile relating to a biography they had read and two weeks before that it was a diorama of another book. They are fun, but they require time and yes, money becuase we don't all have supplies sitting around the house. Luckily, I like to do crafts so many things I can swipe from my craft supplies, but we always end up having to run out to the craft store for something. If this is third grade...I can't wait for the upcoming years.
 
Ah yes...we have entered this phase of school life ourselves this year. DS8 is in the second grade. Their first project was dinosaurs. You could easily tell the ones the kids did on their own and the ones the parents did. Now we are on to Native American Indians. DS wants to do a totem pole. Should be interesting to see what everyone comes up with.

I would hope tho that the teachers would know who is doing all the work..

Jill
 

My 11th grader was complaining recently because his 'Gym' teacher gave him a written PROJECT & often gives written homework. He was like 'What's the point of that? I thought Gym class was to get physical fitness?" I have to agree with him. He's got enough written & computer projects & homework in all of his other classes.
 
It's not just projects!:( My DD4's preschool does a school play each year starting when they are 2. And parents are responsible for costumes. Last year DD was Little Miss Muffet and her Easter dress was her costume. This year she was the Scarecrow in a Wizard of Oz skit. I "creatively" put her costume together for about $15. Dorothy's mom went to a seamstress and had the full up blue and white checked dress made and bought the red sparkly shoes (Target for about $15). :rolleyes:

I love my daughter, but this is ridiculous! I donated my Scarecrow costume to the school so maybe another parent can use it later since my DD will outgrow it instantly!
 
I agree!!! This year youngest DS came home with a 5th grade science project to build a 4 room house out of a shoe box and wire it. It wasn't bad enough that the supplies cost me $15-20, I hadn't a clue how to help him. Finally I threw in the towel and he called his dad to come over and help. Don't they think we have better ways to spend our time and money???:mad:

TC
 
School projects are the thorn in my side! It's the 7th grade here when things get so over the top out of control. . .yeah, they've had a major project every year since kindergarten (it used to be the school science fair--mandatory entrance--in elementary plus whatever classroom projects they did).

When my son was in 7th, the year began with a "family tree" project for English, a wooden cribbage board for algebra, a fair project for geography--had to be something 3 dimensional that went along with the fair theme (and it wasn't even our county fair!), and a science project--it escapes me at this moment what that one was. As the year progressed he had a European trip project for geography, an African country project for geography, a poetry book for English, and finally a photographic project for science that documented evidence of everything they had learned that year. My question was did any of these 7th grade teachers talk???? At one point he had 3 projects going that were 6 weeks in durations--all in the same quarter! It was horrid!

These were (are) not easy little projects. For example (and my daughter is now in the 7th grade and had pretty much the same projects--thankfully, better spaced by the teachers): the European trip project involves actually planning a trip to an assigned country. The child had to have a complete itinerary for a minimum of 10 days. He had to have names, addresses, phone numbers, amenities, cost and dates for hotels, restaurants (including what you ate), attractions visited (including cost and highlights of what you saw), flight numbers, airlines, cost of tickets, etc. The itinerary had to include at least 5 different cities and a minimum of 3 attractions in each city. He also had to document how he moved about the country including the cost of that transportation. Photographs of the sites seen, the areas visited and the like were also required. In addition, there was a report about the country itself that needed to accompany the itinerary. This had to be written in the first person and contained a multitude of information, i.e., population, three largest cities, geographic coordinates, climate, and on and on--all very dry information that no kid would be able to (or interested in) write about from a first person standpoint. Another aspect of the project was a poster on tagboard that contained a map of the country, the flag, ten facts about the country not covered elsewhere, weather forecast the the time period visiting, photographs of the country, and other things I don't recall. Finally, the child had to choose their favorite attraction visited and create a brochure for that attraction. The brochure had to contain all information about the hours of operation, cost, an overview of the attraction, pictures, and the like. This is a VERY expensive project when you consider all the photographic downloads, printing, notebooks, photo holders, posterboard, paper and incidentals to make it neat.

This same teacher has an African project he assigns during the final quarter of school--I'm expecting it any day. It's a scaled down version of the above--report, poster, costuming, and food items from the country assigned--seems like there's something else, just don't recall right now. This is also a semi-expensive project AND involves cooking/costuming.

When you toss in the family tree project (another notebook, photo holders, paper), science projects, wood for the cribbage board, and the materials necessary to complete the fair project--more wood, Lincoln logs, tubing, and miscellaneous other items--these projects are pricey. We often wonder what those without means do? Then there are those kids who are thrown to the wolves because they don't have parental support!

Is it just me or are our kids being projected to death? Some of the things my kids have been asked to write/research are things I did as a junior, senior, or while in college. It just seems there aren't enough hours in the day for them to actually be kids--they spend so much time on day-to-day homework AND then all weekend chasing information for a project. Of course, there's the stress it places on the entire family, too. They do need help with these things--and I really don't mind. When, however, I'm putting in 30 hours on a project--it's over the top. As someone else said earlier--I've already done my time in school.

My other big complaint is why am I the one teaching this stuff? They get the assignment and the teacher devotes NO class time to these major projects. Do they expect 7th graders to somehow omnisciently understand about booking travel? How about researching on the internet? Then, of course, there is all of that writing. . . Frankly, my dear--these things have "parent project" written all over them. It's not that I object to projects--I just feel if they are so important and valuable to the learning process--perhaps a little classroom time should be devoted to them. After all the points received make up 80% of their grade for the quarter.

Our kids have both been 4.0 students since grades began. They work very hard and we are involved at school as well. I really resent being "forced" to spend my family time as ordained by someone at school because of an arbitrary project. If it was one project a year--okay, but four from the same teacher plus the others from the various classes--c'mon. . . I have better things to do with my kids!
 
Originally posted by kasar
. . . . . They did tell us that PowerPoint presentations were not necessary for the 4th grade state project, whew!! :rolleyes:
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
 
Some of the things my kids have been asked to write/research are things I did as a junior, senior, or while in college.

If you think their projects are bad now...just wait until they actually are in college!

I recently had a project for a PR class with two pages (front and back, single spaced) of advertising and graphic design devices. (drop shadows, different types of borders, different fonts, etc.) We had to come up with three examples of each device, cut from a magazine, analyzed for effectiveness, labeled and mounted on paper, professionally bound into a book.

Oh, and we had two weeks to do it. During midterms.

Then again, that's nothing compared to what my engineering and architecture friends have had to do..
 

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