SBC To Release Abuser List

[WEDWDW]

Better late than never I suppose.

I don't see how the SBC survives this-maybe they will.

Some serious "sweating" has to be happening ahead of the release by potential includees.

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/24/1101012028/southern-baptist-sex-abuse-list

 

[GreatLakes]

Good, I only wish some other religious institutions would do the same.

 

[CdnCarrie]

Is that related to this church drama? https://nypost.com/2022/05/24/india...ut-woman-says-she-was-his-16-year-old-victim/

 

[nw6675]

The SBC will survive. It always does.

 

[disneydentist]

Same as the Catholic Church has survived. Some will leave. True believers will stay.

 

[LuvOrlando]

I saw this and am glad they are being outed as monsters.

Humans are messed up, this has nothing whatsoever to do with the institutions but if the elders/leaders/members refuse to act or cover up then the institution and individual members involved ALL need to be held accountable with jail and money as a deterrent. Potential abusers and cohorts need to be MORE afraid of law enforcement consequences than peer consequences and the only way to do that is hit like a hammer. There was Larry Nassar and many youth sports coaches who abuse, do we delete sports or the Olympics? There are countless teachers who abuse students, do we get rid of schools, does that make sense to anyone? There was the Congressional Page abuse scandal, what do we do with that? Lots of entertainment leaders were abusers, do we stop movies & TV? Lots of domestic violence abuse, do we stop allowing families?

Doesn't really make sense to blame an institution morally, it's the humans that are the problem but if the institution is used as a shield then the institution needs to be financially accountable.

 

[WhatDinosaur]

They’ll survive. The majority of members who remain will continue focus their efforts on calling LGBT teachers “groomers” in an effort to roll back LGBT rights, and completely ignore what happens in their own church.

 

[Grand Koalafornian]

I think all religions and institutions that involve working with children should do this. I hate how people protect abusers. I will admit that it especially infuriates me that the SBC would call me a groomer for simply being married to another woman while actively enabling abuse against children for years. As a Jew, I think Jewish congregations should do the same even though we aren't as centralized and hierarchical.

As @LuvOrlando pointed out, this isn't just a religious thing. We see it again and again in business, sports, entertainment, etc. This is human problem that happens whenever people have power over other people. Some people will abuse that power (and they are generally more inclined to seek it), and others would rather brush it under the rug than confront it. The image of the organization becomes more important than what the organization actually does. We need to have serious consequences in place for both the abusers and their protectors regardless of who they are, how rich and powerful they are, or what organization they might be from, or it will continue indefinitely.

 

[chicagodisneyfan]

Is that related to this church drama? https://nypost.com/2022/05/24/india...ut-woman-says-she-was-his-16-year-old-victim/

That story is CREEPY and I am glad he stepped down. He should go to jail.

 

[GreatLakes]

I saw this and am glad they are being outed as monsters.

Humans are messed up, this has nothing whatsoever to do with the institutions but if the elders/leaders/members refuse to act or cover up then the institution and individual members involved ALL need to be held accountable with jail and money as a deterrent. Potential abusers and cohorts need to be MORE afraid of law enforcement consequences than peer consequences and the only way to do that is hit like a hammer. There was Larry Nassar and many youth sports coaches who abuse, do we delete sports or the Olympics? There are countless teachers who abuse students, do we get rid of schools, does that make sense to anyone? There was the Congressional Page abuse scandal, what do we do with that? Lots of entertainment leaders were abusers, do we stop movies & TV? Lots of domestic violence abuse, do we stop allowing families?

Doesn't really make sense to blame an institution morally, it's the humans that are the problem but if the institution is used as a shield then the institution needs to be financially accountable.

While the abusers are the monsters the institutions around them hold just as much blame in some of these cases. Humans are messed up and in any walk of life you'll have criminals (murderes, child molesters, thieves, rapists, etc) but when one of them commits their crime of choice it is up to the institution to help in the investigation, not hinder it. If I had an employee accused of something like these religious leaders were accused of I'd cooperate and, if the allegation is proven true, they'd be gone. I wouldn't hide them and silently move them somewhere else to commit another crime.

 

[MillauFr]

That story is CREEPY and I am glad he stepped down. He should go to jail.

And just watch the losers gather around him offering sympathy and then questioning the victim as if she did something to encourage his abhorrent behavior....

 

[LuvOrlando]

While the abusers are the monsters the institutions around them hold just as much blame in some of these cases. Humans are messed up and in any walk of life you'll have criminals (murderes, child molesters, thieves, rapists, etc) but when one of them commits their crime of choice it is up to the institution to help in the investigation, not hinder it. If I had an employee accused of something like these religious leaders were accused of I'd cooperate and, if the allegation is proven true, they'd be gone. I wouldn't hide them and silently move them somewhere else to commit another crime.

No-one is disagreeing with you but it's not just religion is it? What about the Olympics? Colleges? Movie productions? DO you think all entire fields are to blame because they exist or just religion and if so you need to consider what's behind that because to me they are all the same, social constructs based on other things.

 

[HerRoyalHighness]

No-one is disagreeing with you but it's not just religion is it? What about the Olympics? Colleges? Movie productions? DO you think all entire fields are to blame because they exist or just religion and if so you need to consider what's behind that because to me they are all the same, social constructs based on other things.

Washington DC. There was that fund that paid off sexual harassment accusers. Total BS

https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/16/politics/settlements-congress-sexual-harassment/index.html

 

[GreatLakes]

No-one is disagreeing with you but it's not just religion is it? What about the Olympics? Colleges? Movie productions? DO you think all entire fields are to blame because they exist or just religion and if so you need to consider what's behind that because to me they are all the same, social constructs based on other things.

My comment wasn't meant to just include religious organizations. Could be universities, it could be shoe stores. None should protect people who are guilty.