Sarah and Kate.... (is it just me????)

[minkydog]

No, i don't think it was a set up. I think Kate is a high strung, erm...baby who can't think of anyone but herself. I think the Palin family did everything they could to accomodate her, but she was determined not to enjoy it, to complain about it, and generally throw a giant tantrum.

 

[Dee77]

The belief now is that this episode was a set up to make Kate look bad?? It was a big conspiracy to "out" her bad attitude, sorry but she did that all by herself for the way she has acted for the last several years not just that one afternoon in Alaska. Besides, you can't actually think that all of Sarah's family had an agenda to use Kate in order for Sarah to look better. Her daughter, husband, brother, mother and father all took part in hosting the Gosselins. They all appeared genuinely happy to do it and when Kate turned sour, they were more than gracious to teach and entertain Kate's 8 children. Just out of curiosity, what do you think Sarah should have done to make Kate more comfortable? There really isn't much more Sarah could have done, IMHO.

 

[morethananyonex]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm pretty sure this is exactly the attitude Kate has had since the beginning. She's extremely ungrateful and rude, but she's been like that since day 1. Found it funny she was complaining about EVERYTHING but her kids (kids that are not used to Alaska/camping) seemed to be having a great time.

 

[mhsjax]

Looks like you may be the only one that feels this way. there is no way that this was a set up, and Sarah acting like what? I have watched all of her shows, they have all been outside in the elements. This isn't something she did just to set up Kate.

Kate also doesn't need one lick of help making herself look bad, she is the queen of that. This was all Kate in her true glory. Sarah was nothing but wonderful in the episode. Sorry. but I think you are wrong about this one.

Also her kids were having a ball, Sarahs' dad was taking so much time with them, (not like Kate ever does, at least not without yelling) And then when they didn't want to leave she said fine they were not Palins. But we all know it is all about Kate and what she wants so the kids had to go. Poor Kate, being set up like that. Yeah right.

 

[happygirl]

I always found myself a huge Kate supporter. She was a big baby on this show, I hate hearing her whine and cry about how bad it was. Then she ruined it for her kids. I hated when they kids said they wanted to stay she made them feel like they didn't belong to her anymore.

As for the people to say it was set up to make her look bad LOL that all I can say.

 

[MushyMushy]

I'll let you know what I think about it. I've got it set to record this weekend and I'm curious to see if I feel the same way you do. I'm pretty equally NOT a fan of either woman, so I think I can be objective.

 

[Wishing on a star]

Enjoy, Mushy! and do come back and let me know what you think.

And, yes, while Kate was horrid, as all knew she would be, that only completely proves the idea that Sarah and her producers set this up. They knew it would be easy take. To miss this, would be like, well, missing Mt.McKinley on a clear day!!!

Simple formula: Make it hard on Kate, and watch her be, well, 'kate'... (cmon, no food, no paper products, who does that???? A cold rain.. ohh boy, the icing on the cake.) Make Sarah out to be the wonderful superwoman protector, the one packing the shotgun/rifle...
IMHO, it simply can't be denied.

Yes, the 'family' did act as if they were taking the kids in... they did a couple things to keep them busy.
But, I never saw Sarah do anything or say anything, not one thing, to try to help with Kates discomfort and concerns. In fact, she very obviously downright relished it.

I feel like I now seen Sarah Palin's true colors.

 

[SaraJayne]

I don't even LIKE Sarah Palin but I thought she was a gracious host and Kate was a whining, bratty baby.

She KNEW she was going camping in Alaska. The kids seemed to be having a good time but could Kate suck it up - no way.

It all about Kate, all the time.

She really showed her true colors this time. I don't even see the Dis Boards "Kate lovers" out there defending her this time.

I agree. Sarah Palin makes me crazy from a political standpoint, but I thought she was very gracious to Kate and her family and Kate was acting like a total brat.

Kate wasn't even embarrassed about the way she acted!

 

[SaraJayne]

Enjoy, Mushy! and do come back and let me know what you think.

And, yes, while Kate was horrid, as all knew she would be, that only completely proves the idea that Sarah and her producers set this up. They knew it would be easy take. To miss this, would be like, well, missing Mt.McKinley on a clear day!!!

Simple formula: Make it hard on Kate, and watch her be, well, 'kate'... (cmon, no food, no paper products, who does that???? A cold rain.. ohh boy, the icing on the cake.) Make Sarah out to be the wonderful superwoman protector, the one packing the shotgun/rifle...
IMHO, it simply can't be denied.

Yes, the 'family' did act as if they were taking the kids in... they did a couple things to keep them busy.
But, I never saw Sarah do anything or say anything, not one thing, to try to help with Kates discomfort and concerns. In fact, she very obviously downright relished it.

I feel like I now seen Sarah Palin's true colors.

No food? Were we watching the same show?

I'm pretty sure Sarah Palin doesn't control the weather.

Am I defending Sarah Palin? I think I need to go lay down.

 

[RUDisney]

I read that Kate got to Alaska with an attitude and wouldn't even speak to Sarah unless the camera was running. Perhaps it's because she found out that Sarah was getting $1 million for the episode and she was only getting $250,000.

IMO, if you go in with a bad attitude, it's hard to change it into a good one.

 

[krcit]

I think they are both media um.....insert bad word here, who should concentrate on their kids instead of their TV shows.

 

[Kathi OD]

Okay, anyone who has watched this, or has seen any of the PR about this episode, knows that Kate was, like, really bad.

But, is it just me, or was Kate set up, and was Sarah Palin like the 'mean girl' from H E double hockey sticks!!!!!

It was just SO glaringly obvious to me....

Sarah, saying just a little TOO brightly 'this is just SO much fun!!!" and then rolling her eyes at Kate.

I am NOT defending Kate, at all...
But, sorry, in a way I have to agree with her....
They knew that Kate was not used to those conditions, comfortable, etc... and I would bet big, huge, money that the producers set Kate up to focus completely on how just totally wonderful Sarah is.

I mean, Cmon... going out with that many kids... no package of paper plates, no roll of paper towels... No easy snack foods....

Never once saw Sarah, as the supposed wonderful hostess, go and say or do anything to see how she could make things better for Kate.

Sorry, but this was so obvious to me that I just had to put it out there.

It looked like a complete and total set-up, and with the bad weather, unfortunately, Kate fell for it, hook line and sinker.

Even today, after the first episode ran on Sunday, the media is just all freakin' over how absolutely HORRID Kate was.

Sorry, this has absolutely NOTHING to do with politics. But, Sarah has now lost any respect that I may have had for her as a woman.

Nah, not a set-up. Just Kate being Kate.....not being able to adapt to anything out of the ordinary, seeing the world as only black and white, with her way being the only way, and having the world revolve around her and what she wants.

I wish she would stop saying she would do anything for her kids, because it obviously isn't true. She'll only do anything for her kids if it doesn't inconvenience her too much. Those kids were having a great time and she shamed them into leaving because SHE was miserable. What about staying and at least try to participate in some of the activities because your kids are having a good time instead of standing under at canopy and complain?

I honestly believe Kate knew exactly what she was getting into. In case you haven't noticed her 15 minutes of fame is coming to a close. This was a way to bring the world's attention back to her. As in the past, it doesn't matter that the attention is negative, just that the attention is there.

ETA: I will agree that Sarah wasn't that great of a hostess as far as her interactions with Kate, but I think that's because she was so focused on making sure the children had fun.

 

[flrose]

I didn't see the episode only the commercials. I couldn't believe how she was whining in the commercial and thought surely it was better than that. I guess not.
This would have been the perfect trip for their Dad to have gone on with them. John was the outdoorsy one who did better at that kind of stuff. So sad that he messed up.

 

[Wishing on a star]

I think they are both media um.....insert bad word here, who should concentrate on their kids instead of their TV shows.

You just completely nailed it...

We need the applause smiley here.

PS: We all knew this about Kate, but to be able to say the same thing now, about Sarah... that is what I am realizing here.

 

[stinkerbelle's mom]

Okay, anyone who has watched this, or has seen any of the PR about this episode, knows that Kate was, like, really bad.

But, is it just me, or was Kate set up, and was Sarah Palin like the 'mean girl' from H E double hockey sticks!!!!!

In all honesty I didn't watch this show so I really can't comment, but I did hear about it. This was my first thought that of course Sarah would come off looking good because it was her show. I'm sure Kate will air a show about it and things will look entirely different.

Sarah comes off like she's trying to hard to be an all around kind of gal. The "I can bring home the bacon..." kind of gal.

 

[Joyful3Heart]

Kate had an attitude the whole time! I am not a Sarah or a Kate fan, but I had to watch b/c I knew this would be entertainment at its best lol

Unfortunately, I think Kate was just being Kate...I was appalled when she pulled 9 year old Piper aside incredulously asked if this was really fun for them...and the telling her kids that they had to leave or they were Palins now??? As if these kids haven't already been torn apart the last couple of years.

 

[Disney-Kim]

imho...they were both being paid and filmed for a reality tv show...which doesn't say a whole lot for either of them in the first place...

they both showed their true colors imho....I think Sarah Palin is all about the $$$ and Kate...well we know she is....

 

[MushyMushy]

Enjoy, Mushy! and do come back and let me know what you think.

And, yes, while Kate was horrid, as all knew she would be, that only completely proves the idea that Sarah and her producers set this up. They knew it would be easy take. To miss this, would be like, well, missing Mt.McKinley on a clear day!!!

Simple formula: Make it hard on Kate, and watch her be, well, 'kate'... (cmon, no food, no paper products, who does that???? A cold rain.. ohh boy, the icing on the cake.) Make Sarah out to be the wonderful superwoman protector, the one packing the shotgun/rifle...
IMHO, it simply can't be denied.

Yes, the 'family' did act as if they were taking the kids in... they did a couple things to keep them busy.
But, I never saw Sarah do anything or say anything, not one thing, to try to help with Kates discomfort and concerns. In fact, she very obviously downright relished it.

I feel like I now seen Sarah Palin's true colors.

Okay, I got to watch it tonight. I definitely see your point! I honestly can't stand Kate, but she was clearly miserable in that environment. To be honest, I would have been too. I wouldn't have enjoyed camping out there in dry, warm weather let alone what they were dealing with. It's hard to put on a good face when you are physically miserable and out of sorts like she had to be. Why didn't anybody offer her a chair inside one of the tents, or a warm sleeping bag? At least on camera, anyway -- they may have for all we know, but they didn't show it.

As for her taking the kids away, was it even an option for her to go back and be comfortable and leave the kids behind to finish camping? Maybe I'm a big old baby too, but I would have been out of there in a heartbeat.

 

[susykt4]

I'm not a fan of either woman, but I think it's a stretch to think that Sarah herself had a lot to do with "setting up Kate for failure" to make herself look better or for any other reason. I strongly question whether Sarah even knew who Kate was more than the basics of the 8 children and the tabloid covers. I seriously doubt she's a big fan of Kate's show. There was no logical reason for Sarah to think that Kate would think she was the bigger "star." I'd be surprised if my dad even knows who Kate is, but he most certainly knows who Sarah is!

I don't doubt that TLC set Kate up for failure. I also don't doubt Sarah was probably disgusted by Kate allowing her kids to tear around her home, etc. before the camping trip even started. It was probably a miserable and uncomfortable experience for all adults and older children involved. But I have to admit, it made for one hilarious and entertaining episode!

 

[Carina]

1) as someone who spends a lot of time outdoors in the rain around bon fires I can tell you, if Kate had gone next to the fire, and it wasnt even raining hard at that point, the warmth from the fire would have been better than being dry under the tent ( but that dosent make for as good of a 'show')

Also no matter how many layers you are wearing you cannot get warm if you dont create body heat a.k.a. MOVE - nor do I think she had very many layers on - look how "puffy" the Palins are were compared with her.... she had form fitting pants on - you need to trap air between the layers to stay warm - but no way would Kate want to look "puffy" on TV she was already upset enough she could wear high heels (as seen on one of her episodes about their Alaskan trip)

And summer rain isn't "that" cold - it was more about Kate's lousy mindset than anything... she wanted to sit in a Lawnchair in the sun and watch her kids be entertained and that didn't happen so she threw a hissy fit.

2) How starving could she have been, they were there 2 hours

3) they were never going to stay... there was no luggage for them ( clothes in backpacks, sleeping bags pillows ect) Sure Sarah's family could have brought it all ahead of time, but logic says they would have taken their stuff home if they left early... didn't look like they were planning to meet up the next day for drinks. hee hee

The Camping part was never going to happen

4) If a float plane brought you somewhere remote to Camp and you were staying overnight, they would have not been there 10 mins after you decided to leave to take you home. The plane and pilot ready to bring them home was a little too convienient ( set up)

5) I did laugh when Sarah called Todd on the fact that he was fishing downstream, and the obviously set up, but still funny ending when Sarah decided to help Piper instead of walking the Gosslins back to the plane.



6) no matter how set up or phoney any part of the epsisode was... they way Kate talked to her kids when they said they wanted to stay longer was HORRIBLE. She made a 1/2 a$$ed joke about it an laughed after she said it... but while she was saying it she was talking in a terrible tone to those kids and no LOL afterwards was going to change it.

ESPECIALLY since she herself has said that some of them have had emotional problems because of the divorce.

NOT FUNNY AT ALL KATE - oops your true colours were shown... AGAIN! Seems like she had taken to belittling/manipulating the kids since she can't do it to Jon anymore!