s/o Waiting in line/ not

[tanyaewa]

I was reading through the other thread about line wating and reading other experiences.

I have a question though... Has anyone ever had a *confrontation* with line jumpers that turned out well? Or, like me, does it just end up awkward and the same because they are the sort of people that feel entitled and aren't open to sense anyway?

I am the sort of person that speaks up when I need to - but seriously, I have to completely chill in this instance because it NEVER works out and I end up getting even more upset - the I get the *hangover* where I second guess the whole interaction and try to think of what I should have said.

Anyone stand up and have it work out?? Or just more like me?

 

[3Minnies1Mickey]

If its an issue that needs to be addressed, its best to get a CM involved.

 

[scooter7487]

Anyone stand up and have it work out?? Or just more like me?[/QUOTE]


I responded to another thread just like this the other day. Long story short I used to get really upset, especially the first time we went. Even though maybe being a little bit of a pushover I guess I don't let it bother me anymore as they aren't going to ruin my fun. I do or actually my DW usually makes a flippant comment that we know they hear but don't pursue it more. The best ever was when my son was 4-5 and this family jumped in front of us at Buzz and I politely said um excuse me the line is back there and they acted as if they could not understand me. I mean just completely looked straight ahead and never acknowledged me. My son then turned and said Daddy if they were at school and were rude and jumped in line like that they would be in trouble. The mother turned so I knew she heard and understood him and I am sure I had a big grin on my face. I just said well Tim if jumping in line is what they feel they have to do to have fun then even though it is wrong we are gonna let it go. He said ok daddy. I gave him a big hug and was so proud of him.

 

[bumbershoot]

I've only ever said one thing to one person, a teenage boy who was slinking ahead of us in line for the little coaster in ToonTown. It was one of the only times my mom's death-glare worked for me, LOL, along with "no, no". He oozed back to where he was before he started sneaking ahead of us.

It didn't make a huge difference to our day, but it bugged me that he was doing that.

 

[OrcaPotter]

I'm curious ... is line jumping really that prevalent at Disneyland? This is the second thread about it!

At WDW, I've rarely encountered it. It's usually the people who claim their party is further up the line (which hey, could be true) or people who sneak ahead in certain areas where unless you're paying attention they feel you won't notice their sudden appearance ahead of you instead of behind you. Almost always I'm with my best friend, and she does the loud-directed-passively-at-you flippant remark best. Otherwise, we just grumble but not allow it to ruin our experience.

 

[KTR]

I haven't noticed it much. There are certainly a fair number of people who have to come back up the line to meet up with their parties, but it looks pretty legitimate to me most of the time (just 1 or 2 so it could very easily be a bathroom break or something similar). I have 3 little kids who have to have sudden potty breaks or diaper changes so it never occured to me that this was a problem.

Also, the CM at PFF encourage people to let their kids watch the show while 1 parent waits in line. I've heard this mutliple times. I don't think anyone thought much of that either.

 

[jory29]

This is the first trip we have really been aware of line jumpers, it seemed to happen a lot this time (probably 1 out of every 4 lines at least) compared to our 6 other trips over the past 5 years, and it wasn't usually just one person moving ahead to catch up with their group, there was quite a lot of them, which is kind of annoying. They were NOT little kids needing to have gotten out of line to go to the bathroom, which we totally understand if that needs to happen. These tended to be high school aged, or older people. I was under the impression they weren't always meeting with someone, just pushing through until they got further up in the line. It didn't bother us that much though, as we knew the lines were moving fast and that those few people wouldn't make much difference to out wait times.

 

[cyclenut]

It really doesn't occur that often and for the most part I just let it go. I've done it a couple of times in a pinch (as I mentioned in the other thread) but I don't make a habit of it.

To answer your question, no ... it never turns out well.

Usually the people who have executed this move either don't much care what other people think or don't think anyone else has a right to judge them. Getting a CM involved rarely helps either because their mission is to make everyone happy, including the "jumpers".

It's best just to let it go. The exception I think would be if it were a very large group. Then it is worth saying something to a CM, but don't expect much. They would much rather avoid a confrontation as all that will do is escalate the situation further.

 

[DeluxePrincess]

I tend to be a "let it go" kind of person. Unless, of course, they end up pushing my kids out of the way. Then it's on!! I'm taking my 1st DLR trip next month and I will be curious to see if I find this line jumping as prevalent as these boards make it out to be. I haven't had this problem ever at WDW, except with large tour groups pushing ahead.

 

[oumagic]

I noticed it a lot on Friday. You don't see a whole lot of teens (like mentioned above) just cutting in line. You see a ton of people saving spots. It seems to be gaining popularity to have a party of 4 send 1 person to get in line at one of the big rides like Space Mtn while the other 3 ride something else. They then have to "catch up" to their party. It should not be allowed but DL is very inconsistent. You get into a line that says it is 40 minutes and you end up in it for 50+ because people keep squeezing by you to "catch up." I saw numerous times where teens would be running past me and my son in the back of the queue and then 3+ others join their party 10 minutes later. I overheard a few phone calls where they called other party members and tell them that they are in HM line and it is 20 minutes and if they hurry they can catch up before they get inside. 5 people got in front of us via that method.

Regarding the OP, I always let it go and try to explain to my kids why the selfish behavior is not right. I try to explain to my kids that putting your own personal happiness in front of hundreds of others is unacceptable. I only have confronted two people in line about this behavior and it worked once and ruined my day the other. I try to just let it go, but it is irritating.

 

[bumbershoot]

I'm curious ... is line jumping really that prevalent at Disneyland? This is the second thread about it!

At WDW, I've rarely encountered it.

There are huge scary threads about line-jumping in the Theme Parks board as well (which is about WDW, not all theme parks). And we saw it at WDW, the one that comes to mind is at Spaceship Earth...

 

[FourM's]

We had a couple of teenage boys push past us on rockin roller coaster at WDW. I let them by grudgingly. A few minutes later a larger group of boys said they were trying to meet up with the ones who had just pushed past. I had had it! I put my arms out and held on to the railings on either side of me a pretended I couldn't hear them. My two daughters(12 & 15)had a laughing fit.
A few minutes later an announcement was made that the ride was having technical problems and all of the teenage boy line jumpers got out of line to leave. As soon as the boys left an announcement was made saying the ride was back up and running. Sometimes karma is the best revenge!

 

[lovebug33]

Here's my thought. If people feel the need to line jump, let them. It isn't worth me ruining my vacay over it. That said, there was a family at US who was jumping over the rails to get around us and get on the Mummy ride. DH was getting mad and I told him to let them go because the wait was only 5 minutes. Well, the boy miscalculated, tripped, and fell hard. I am pretty sure he broke his arm. Paramedics came and everything. Not to say I was joyous that he got hurt, but it is karma or something like that.

 

[Luv Bunnies]

A few years ago we were waiting for the Monorail at DTD. The queue area is more like a huge corral rather than a line, but most people were joining the back and waiting their turn. Two or three trains came and went and we were still waiting - mostly because not a lot of people were getting off and the trains were already full. A youngish couple was behind us and the woman said, "If we don't push forward we're never going to get on a train." Then they started creeping forward in the crowd and we lost sight of them. They made it onto the next train and our party of five was first in line for the next train. Our Monorail/train obsessed son (who has Asperger's) asked if we could ride up front and the CM said yes (this was in 2007 when that was still allowed). We figured we got the better deal and we didn't feel the need to "push forward" as the other people did.

 

[skiingfast]

The worst line jumping I have seen in a Disney resort was at TSM in DHS. It was horrible and seemed to happen often. Some parents seemed shocked that I wouldn't let them by me. I flat said to a couple, your kid is probably rude because you are rude, learn some manners to teach your children. BTW if you find me behind you in a lift maze stepping on your tails, it's on purpose.

Other than that, in just a couple DL places do I seem people cutting into the line. There is one attraction in particular where people in the exit have only a rope separating them from the entrance queue and that rope gets hopped now and then.

When handy, though sometime it happens in the middle of the queue, I talk to a CM about it. This has worked a few times for me. I really pissed off some people who thought they were about to board Space Mountain with sneakily short wait.

 

[aliceindisneyland]

I haven't ever noticed someone cutting a ride line. I've had to exit the line for emergency potty breaks with a child several times, and when I make my way back to our original spot I haven't had a problem. I guess I assume anyone making their way past people in the line has a valid reason to do so.
I have chased after cast member handlers and characters to explain that a family (or 2 or 3) cut in the photo op line; we got our photo op. I don't bother with calling out the character cutters since you have to be pretty observant to tell where the line starts/ends, and many people just get excited and run up.

 

[OBDisney]

It wasn't a big confrontation but we were in line for Buzz and I will say the line was a bit confusing, and a family hopped in front of us, I said "Excuse me the end of the line is way back there" in a very friendly I'm sure you just didn't realize it way, they say "Are you sure?" I said "We started from way back there and have been following it" They left and went back. I never speak up for myself and I'm still not sure if it was an honest mistake or on purpose, could have been either.

 

[SlpgBty]

A few years ago I was at Disneyland with a friend and our kids and there was a lot of line jumping by teens on almost every ride. Somewhere around the fifth or sixth time, we had had it and when 4 kids "excused" their way through the line, we said, "No. You may not cut in front of us. If the all the people behind us don't mind you cutting in front of them, then you can stay here, but you may not cut." Needless to say, the people behind us did mind and soon, they were at the end of the line where they belonged.

 

[mama2dutchies]

The only time I minded, because frankly it's not worth ruining my vacation, is when someone trampled my then 5 year old..

They ignored it, suddenly I'm holding a bawling 5 year old and they are pretending they don't hear.. I know they weren't meeting anyone they stopped right in front of us.. a CM approached and asked what happened. I told her flat out these rude people here just ran her over.. they just pushed their way right up through... the CM asked them to leave the line.. They started to argue, she explained that they can leave/re-enter the line or they can leave the park, and DL has a zero tolerance policy of guests hurting another guest.

On a lighter note as we were walking out, one of the teens did stop me and sheepishly apologize and swore he didn't see her.

 

[kiwitravel]

A mum and child coming through I will always let past however anything else doesn't go past me... I tend to be looking backwards talking to the rest of our group so see them coming up and our group of 4 always make sure they take up the width of the whole line.... I look them in the eye as they come up which stops most but those that try to push past get asked/told you can't push through the line your party will have to wait for you... This usually involves a combination of the party waiting at a switchback and then reuniting which is ok by me or the party ahead waiting until the rest of the party catches up naturally... Never had a problem, I really think the teenagers just don't know any better and think its ok... Had some rattle off at me in a foreign language and gestures, I just shrug and say shall we get a CM over and they seem to understand that.. Most are quite friendly often asking about our accents and where we are from...

I think most do it because they see others doing it and think its ok...