Rope Drop with only 1 FP+ can you go straight to 4th FP+

[SplashMo]

Has anyone tried to rope drop with only 1 FP+ and then obtain a 4th FP+ or do they make you obtain FP+ 2 and 3 first....

 

[ckelly14]

Has anyone tried to rope drop with only 1 FP+ and then obtain a 4th FP+ or do they make you obtain FP+ 2 and 3 first....

You must use at least one FP, and use or let expire the other two, before obtaining a fourth.

 

[mom3teach3]

What is the strategy behind only securing one fp instead of obtaining all three of the fp's before rope drop? Why wouldn't you just want to get your three set up before rope drop? What am I missing here?

 

[wn01aa]

What is the strategy behind only securing one fp instead of obtaining all three of the fp's before rope drop? Why wouldn't you just want to get your three set up before rope drop? What am I missing here?

I think the strategy would be that once you use the 4th FP+ you can get another right away. Do if you used the 4th at 10:50am, you could get another for 11-12. If you used the next one at 11:05, you could get one for 11:15-12:15. Getting more than 1 FP per hour. But I believe the first three must expire before you can get a 4th.

 

[Jennasis]

Wouldn't your "4th" pass be your 2nd pass if you only made one reservation? Cause 2 comes after 1.

 

[phillipsjp2003]

I have a trip planned in July and just booked our fast passes. The system requires you to book 3. I tried to book one in Epcot where you are limited to choose one ride from the list of the best rides and two from a second list of rides that usually do not get long lines. After selecting one it automatically picked the other rides for me. My suggestion is choose the fast passes you don't really want for the earliest time possible so that you can reserve your 4th sooner in the day.

 

[lovin'fl]

When booking FP+ you have to book 3...can't just book 1, right? So, you book 3 in a row and use 1-3 of them and when they've expired you can get 4th...right? I am DVC and can book 60 days out and have to select 3 FP+, but for folks who book the day of...is it the same and they have to select 3 FP+? I am guessing OP wants to go to different park for 4th FP+ and wants to do it quicker

 

[cel_disney]

I was wondering if this would work at Epcot....


Reserve 3, cancel 2 of them (keeping soarin for opening hour). We know you can't easily get those back when cancelled....then, go to the park. Ride soarin, and then proceed to kiosk to get test track....can't get test track a 2 or 3 because of tiering when booking in advance, but when it's the '4th' - maybe?

 

[Jennasis]

Book all 3 as early as possible and then start moving them up as soon as you use one. Ex:

Soarin' at 9-10...Nemo at 10-11...SE at 11-12.

Get on Soarin at 9. After passing second scanner, move your Nemo up tothe soonest you can prior to 10....then after passing second scanner at Nemo, do the same for SE. Then you'll be able to start pulling Tier 1's again if available.

 

[mggeary]

I was wondering if this would work at Epcot....


Reserve 3, cancel 2 of them (keeping soarin for opening hour). We know you can't easily get those back when cancelled....then, go to the park. Ride soarin, and then proceed to kiosk to get test track....can't get test track a 2 or 3 because of tiering when booking in advance, but when it's the '4th' - maybe?

Has anyone tried this yet. I would definitely do this at Epcot. Ride Soarin standby at RD, reride with FP#1. (Previously cancelled FP #2-3). Schedule first extra FP for test track while still available. Later schedule FP for Maelstrom (which is tier I). Same strategy probably also useful at DHS.

 

[lovin'fl]

Book all 3 as early as possible and then start moving them up as soon as you use one. Ex:

Soarin' at 9-10...Nemo at 10-11...SE at 11-12.

Get on Soarin at 9. After passing second scanner, move your Nemo up tothe soonest you can prior to 10....then after passing second scanner at Nemo, do the same for SE. Then you'll be able to start pulling Tier 1's again if available.

Great idea!!! As far as others mentioning cancelling FP+ 2 and 3 after using FP+ 1...can you cancel them?

 

[SharonS]

Why does everyone continue to find ways to cheat the system. They tiered the fast passes in EPCOT and HS for a reason......they want to try and give the most number of DIFFERENT people access to at least one of them. Now that Disney has finally opened the option to get additional fast passes, IF AVAILABLE , everyone is trying to find ways to cheat the system, use only their tier 1, then cancel their other 2 less desirables and book the 4th so they can get 2 tier ones. Why can't you simply do has other have had to do....book 1 of the tier ones, ride the other stand by either early or late in the day...it works. I too used to ride those many more times under the old system, but simply came to terms with the fact that I had to adapt and be satisfied with 1, maybe 2 rides on those attractions per day if lucky.

If folks continue this nonsense, Disney will simply take the option away to book a 4th, or tighten the system so that you can't book the same ride more than once.

 

[eyehartdisney]

Because we can. And maximizing value is not cheating.

 

[SharonS]

Trying to book only one and cancel the others is NOT maximizing anything...it is trying to skirt the rules. If someone wants to spend their day trying to move their FPs up, I don't have a problem with that...it is their choice. I do have a problem with everyone trying to find ways around the rules, which is exactly what is being suggested when trying to book only one or cancel the others so they can get faster access to the tier ones again

 

[alicat8]

Where are these "rules" written down? The system is set up so you can be flexible and make changes. Nothing wrong with doing what the system allows you to do.

 

[kmb584]

I was wondering if this would work at Epcot....


Reserve 3, cancel 2 of them (keeping soarin for opening hour). We know you can't easily get those back when cancelled....then, go to the park. Ride soarin, and then proceed to kiosk to get test track....can't get test track a 2 or 3 because of tiering when booking in advance, but when it's the '4th' - maybe?

It won't work. If you cancel an existing FP+ and don't select one in its place, the system will automatically assign one to you. When it comes to the initial booking you can't just have 1 or 2 FP+, you have to have 3 and either use or let them expire before the system will allow the booking of a 4th.

 

[Gracefulskinny]

Why does everyone continue to find ways to cheat the system. They tiered the fast passes in EPCOT and HS for a reason......they want to try and give the most number of DIFFERENT people access to at least one of them. Now that Disney has finally opened the option to get additional fast passes, IF AVAILABLE , everyone is trying to find ways to cheat the system, use only their tier 1, then cancel their other 2 less desirables and book the 4th so they can get 2 tier ones. Why can't you simply do has other have had to do....book 1 of the tier ones, ride the other stand by either early or late in the day...it works. I too used to ride those many more times under the old system, but simply came to terms with the fact that I had to adapt and be satisfied with 1, maybe 2 rides on those attractions per day if lucky.

If folks continue this nonsense, Disney will simply take the option away to book a 4th, or tighten the system so that you can't book the same ride more than once.

Because we can. And maximizing value is not cheating.

Attitudes like this is why we can't have nice things.

And for the record Trying to find ways around the system IS cheating it. Maximizing value would work WITHIN the system. There's a difference.

 

[mggeary]

Attitudes like this is why we can't have nice things.

And for the record Trying to find ways around the system IS cheating it. Maximizing value would work WITHIN the system. There's a difference.

With respect, can we please keep the "morality police" out of these threads. Just leads to them becoming unhelpful. If the Disney system allows one to cancel unwanted FPs to move on to others that you want to ride, who are you to say that this is cheating the system. Lets keep this thread to touring plan strategies and helpful information.

 

[cel_disney]

It won't work. If you cancel an existing FP+ and don't select one in its place, the system will automatically assign one to you. When it comes to the initial booking you can't just have 1 or 2 FP+, you have to have 3 and either use or let them expire before the system will allow the booking of a 4th.

You do have to book 3. By there have been many reports of folks dropping 2 and 3. Either because they don't want them (and they get in the way of ADRs) or by accident (and they have to call IT to add them back).

If you book your one FP and don't plan on any more rides because you are strolling innoventions that day, what happens when you change your mind and want another one?

 

[SharonS]

I am not the "morality police" and what they are suggesting is NOT allowed by Disney. I am entitled to my opinion and to express it the same as you. I am just tired of all of these threads involving people trying to 'beat' the system. What was being suggested is NOT allowed by Disney, so it is not a touring strategy.