ROFR Thread January to March 2021 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

[princesscinderella]

thebigman65---$150-$32235-200-BLT-Feb-0/20, 200/21, 200/22- sent 1/31

It will actually get submitted tomorrow. This is the 3rd try for BLT, previous 2 were stripped and got taken at $149 & $144. Hoping 3rd time is a charm!

I also have another BLT contract that I’m waiting to hear that it’s sent to ROFR before posting the details. We went a little higher in price than our last one and it doesn’t have banked points, just hoping it get past Disney this time.

 

[Mouse511]

I also have another BLT contract that I’m waiting to hear that it’s sent to ROFR before posting the details. We went a little higher in price than our last one and it doesn’t have banked points, just hoping it get past Disney this time.

We just did the same.
We 'overbid' on a small 50 pointer at $168 because it matched our use year. I don't think it has been sent to ROFR yet, but when it does, I will post the details.

 

[Chrisdriscoll]

From the more experienced members, is there a time of day that DVC sends out their decisions on ROFRs? It would nice to be able cutting down on checking my email every 5 minutes

 

[princesscinderella]

From the more experienced members, is there a time of day that DVC sends out their decisions on ROFRs? It would nice to be able cutting down on checking my email every 5 minutes

We got our news at 11:30 am but it probably depends on how good your broker is at communicating.

 

[pangyal]

Updated!

Hopefully, Thanos has had enough of working in the ROFR department and things will equalize soon with regards to passes.

 

[CookieandOatmeal]

From the more experienced members, is there a time of day that DVC sends out their decisions on ROFRs? It would nice to be able cutting down on checking my email every 5 minutes

We heard a little after noon because I remember my husband texting me the good news right after I watched Joe Biden being sworn in.

 

[iannovich]

Iannovich---$129-$3888-25-SSR-Feb-0/20, 50/21, 25/22- sent 1/31

I was surprised to get an email saying this contract was sent to ROFR this morning... I didn't expect it to happen until at least tomorrow (a weekday).

 

[vicarrieous]

Iannovich---$129-$3888-25-SSR-Feb-0/20, 50/21, 25/22- sent 1/31

I was surprised to get an email saying this contract was sent to ROFR this morning... I didn't expect it to happen until at least tomorrow (a weekday).

woot woot! Ours was sent today as well. I thought the same thinking it would have to go tomorrow, but happy it went today!

 

[princesscinderella]

Princesscinderella---$145-$25046-160-BLT-Feb-0/20, 160/21, 160/22- sent 1/31

Just got word ours was sent to ROFR too. I was surprised to get the news on a Sunday

 

[dbtex83]

From the more experienced members, is there a time of day that DVC sends out their decisions on ROFRs? It would nice to be able cutting down on checking my email every 5 minutes

When I was notified a couple weeks ago, the title company forwarded the waiver notice email that Member Administration sends to them. MA sent out the decision notice at 7am, but I didn't get contacted by my title company until 5pm... so yeah, it just depends how quick yours is.

 

[gisele2]

Princesscinderella---$145-$25046-160-BLT-Feb-0/20, 160/21, 160/22- sent 1/31

Just got word ours was sent to ROFR too. I was surprised to get the news on a Sunday

Pixie dust

 

[gskywalker]

Well we are hoping for the same result. This is the 3rd one we have bid on in a month so I am hoping the odds will be with us! Gonna keep trying until we get BLT!

Hope you get it. Then maybe down the road if you decide to go to Hawaii we can trade points and get together for a yummy dinner at Peter's on Eglinton to complete the trade(assuming my aulani passes)

 

[Sheldonlo]

PASSED


AKV:


myth2001---$117-$3943-25-AKV-Dec-50/20, 25/21, 25/22-buyer pays MF'20'21- sent 12/10, passed 1/6

atinsley22---$115-$20357-160-AKV-Dec-0/19, 259/20, 160/21-seller pays MF '20- sent 12/22, passed 1/13

hobbes42---$98.34-$52077-480-AKV-Mar-0/19, 0/20, 470/21, 480/22- sent 12/24, passed 1/13

Snk5050---$108-$29700-250-AKV-Apr-0/19, 250/20, 250/21, 250/22- sent 12/29, passed 1/14

JinxRemoving---$110-$24318-200-AKV-Oct-400/20, 200/21, 200/22-Seller pays MF '20- sent 1/1, passed 1/14

Twilight Sparkle---$112-$19866-160-AKV-Oct-100/20, 160/21, 160/22- sent 1/6, passed 1/14

Twilight Sparkle---$112-$19866-160-AKV-Oct-100/20, 160/21, 160/22- sent 1/6, passed 1/14

Niewoe---$110-$18150-160-AKV-Feb-0/20, 8/21, 160/22, 160/23-Seller pays MF ‘21- sent 12/30, passed 1/14

ML_LovesDisney---$107-$25071-210-AKV-Mar-0/20, 224/21, 210/22- sent 1/3, passed 1/15

Shawy1269---$108-$13274-100-AKV-Jun-100/19, 98/20, 100/21, 100/22- sent 1/7, passed 1/20

AUL:

Jkips---$80-$107151-1224-AUL-Jun-1224/20, 2448/21, 1224/22-Subsidized- sent 12/14, passed 1/13


BCV:

pangyal---$114-$27965-235-BCV-Feb-0/19, 0/20, 241/21, 235/22- sent 12/17, passed 1/13

Hootowl54---$149-$15529-100-BCV-Sep-0/19, 34/20, 100/21, 100/22- sent 12/22, passed 1/13

ValW---$120-$26217-200-BCV-Dec-59/20, 200/21, 200/22- sent 1/4, passed 1/14

Zummi525---$160-$16001-100-BCV-Sep-0/19, 24/20, 100/21, 100/22-Seller paying closing- sent 12/31 passed 1/14

Shellbelle---$137-$22939-160-BCV-Apr-0/19, 0/20, 0/21, 160/22- sent 1/8, passed 1/20


BLT:


ValW---$150-$25179-160-BLT-Aug-160/20, 160/21, 160/22-International Seller- sent 1/4, passed 1/14

myth2001---$145-$25044-160-BLT-Mar-0/20, 310/21, 160/22-International Seller- sent 1/8, passed 1/20

CookieandOatmeal---$155-$16820-100-BLT-Dec-23/20, 100/21, 100/22- sent 1/8, passed 1/20

hobbes42---$150-$39939-250-BLT-Mar-0/19, 0/20, 215/21, 250/22- sent 1/11, passed 1/20


BWV:



Pinkxray---$120-$4449-30-BWV-Oct-0/19, 30/20, 30/21, 30/22- sent 12/15, passed 1/12

ymarx15---$126-$24137-175-BWV-Feb-175/20, 175/21, 175/22, 175/23- sent 1/6, passed 1/20

20000LeaguesUnderTheSea---$115-$40774-300-BWV-Dec-300/20, 300/21, 300/22, 300/23-int'l seller- sent 1/13, passed 1/22


HH:


twinmom108---$65-$10245-150-HH-Sep-0/19, 141/20, 150/21, 150/22- sent 12/18, passed 1/14

Skywalker-77---$84-$4200-50-HHI-Jun-50/20, 100/21, 50/22- sent 1/8, passed 1/20




OKW:

hobbes42---$97-$23904-220-OKW-Jun-0/19, 76/20, 220/21, 220/22- sent 12/28, passed 1/13


OKW EXTENDED:

kelsey2020---$123-$10417-75-OKW(E)-Jun-75/19, 75/20, 75/21, 75/22- sent 12/16, passed 1/5


PVB:


wvujeb---$140-$26518-175-PVB-Oct-91/20, 175/21, 175/22- sent 1/5, passed 1/15


RIV:

pangyal---$116-$18970-155-RIV-Dec-0/19, 137/20, 155/21, 155/22-Seller pays '20 MF- sent 12/10, passed 1/5


SSR:

macman123---$114-$9620-80-SSR-Aug-0/20, 0/21, 80/22- sent 12/22, passed 1/13

macman123---$95-$15910-160-SSR-Aug-0/20, 0/21, 160/22- sent 12/14, passed 1/13

macman123---$105-$11210-100-SSR-Aug-100/20, 100/21, 100/22- sent 12/20, passed 1/13

BugsPop---$98-$21632-200-SSR-Apr-100/19, 0/20, 400/21, 200/22- sent 12/21, passed 1/13

les poissons---$105-$15138-130-SSR-Jun-121/20, 260/21, 130/22- sent 12/26, passed 1/13

macman123---$117-$24100-200-SSR-Aug-400/20, 200/21, 200/22- sent 12/21, passed 1/14

dbtex83---$102-$17106-150-SSR-Feb-0/19, 0/20, 230/21, 150/22- sent 12/30, passed 1/14

ccv_fam---$110-$14931-120-SSR-Jun-10/19, 63/20, 120/21, 120/22- sent 1/7, passed 1/14

Clarkyslovedisney---$103-$13252-115-SSR-Oct-0/19, 115/20, 115/21, 115/22- sent 1/4, passed 1/15

moth72484---$98-$15255-150-SSR-Jun-150/20, 300/21, 150/22- sent 1/7, passed 1/20

Cinderella97---$125-$7141-50-SSR-Dec-50/20, 50/21, 50/22- sent 1/4, passed 1/14



VGC:


Eric Smith---$227-$24124-100-VGC-APR-0/19, 0/20, 100/21-seller pays MF '20- sent 1/7, passed 1/15

ValW---$215-$29568-130-VGC-Dec-260/20, 130/21, 130/22- sent 12/29, passed 1/19


VGF:


mikekearneynd---$158-$24470-150-VGF-Dec-158/20, 150/21, 150/22-Seller pays '20MF- sent 12/11, passed 1/6

jkmdds4osu---$170-$36281-200-VGF-Aug-0/19, 100/20, 12/21, 200/22- sent 12/11, passed 1/6

macman123---$158-$25990-160-VGF-Aug-0/20, 0/21, 160/22- sent 12/23, passed 1/13

Jmazzuca243---$180-$29771-155-VGF-Oct-154/19, 155/20, 155/21, 155/22- sent 1/11, passed 1/21


WL/ BRV:


GenerationsDVC---$98-$24054-220-BRV@WL-Sep-0/19, 309/20, 220/21, 220/22-Buyer pays MF '21- sent 12/29, passed 1/20


WL/ CCV:

RanDIZ---$140-$15379-100-CCV@WL-Dec-0/19, 79/20, 100/21, 100/22- sent 12/16, passed 1/13

birchtree95---$134-$20810-150-CCV@WL-Jun-0/20, 7/21, 150/22-Seller pays MF '21- sent 1/12, passed 1/21


VB:


Tarvaris---$65-$8088-100-VB-Feb-0/20, 200/21, 100/22, 100/23- sent 12/28, passed 1/13

M:SpilotISTC12---$70-$2375-25-VB-Mar-0/20, 25/21, 25/22- sent 11/24, passed 1/22


WAITING


AKV:



ennaWest---$103-$17966-160-AKV-Feb-0/19, 0/20, 6/21, 160/22- sent 11/12

jcourtney---$105-$17453-160-AKV-Feb-0/20, 0/21, 160/22- sent 1/17

fordchevyguy---$109-$11585-100-AKV-Apr-0/20, 100/21, 100/22- sent 1/18

Chrisdriscoll---$119-$31312-240-AKV-Dec-272/20, 240/21, 240/22- sent 1/18

Stargazertechie---$120-$19639-140-AKV-Sept-140/20, 280/21, 140/22- sent 1/22

EmilyDisFan---$113-$13030-110-AKV-Feb-0/20, 0/21, 110/22- sent 1/22

RedFive---$115-$20357-160-AKV-Jun-159/19, 0/20, 320/21, 160/22-Int'l seller- sent 1/28



AUL:

gskywalker---$70-$12752-150-AUL-Feb-0/20, 150/21, 150/22, 150/23- sent 1/18


BCV:

PalDisFam---$130-$21401-150-BCV-Feb-0/20, 240/21, 150/22, 150/23- sent 1/26

Rustygirl84---$127-$28170-210-BCV-Feb-6/20, 81/21, 210/22, 210/23- sent 1/29

vicarrieous---$146-$23707-150-BCV-Aug-300/20, 150/21, 150/22-seller pays MF '20- sent 1/31


BLT:


mrmagpi---$160-$25805-150-BLT-Dec-300/20, 150/21, 150/22- sent 1/18

thebigman65---$150-$32235-200-BLT-Feb-0/20, 200/21, 200/22- sent 1/31

Sheldonlo---$140-$27195-180-BLT-Dec-180/19, 180/20, 180/21, 180/22- sent 1/27

BWV:



gwylie---$125-$20588-150-BWV-Oct-0/19, 126/20, 150/21, 150/22- sent 12/29

culli---$110-$31809-270-BWV-Jun-72/19, 0/20, 540/21, 270/22-Seller MFs 2021 only- sent 1/15

culli---$107.5-$39625-350-BWV-Jun-0/19, 0/20, 251/21, 350/22- sent 1/18



HH:




OKW:


thetillyt---$119-$6873-50-OKW-Oct-0/20, 50/21, 50/22- sent 1/15



OKW EXTENDED:

OKWFan88---$106-$9112-75-OKW(E)-Aug-0/19, 0/20, 75/21, 75/22- sent 12/10



PVB:



jwmob91---$168-$9020-50-PVB-Aug-0/20, 26/21, 50/22, sent 1/19

theducks1---$142-$33712-220-PVB-Feb-0/20, 440/21, 220/22, 220/23- sent 1/25

lovethesun12---$132-$10928-75-PVB-Dec-0/19, 0/20, 50/21, 75/22- sent 1/28

Fido Chuckwagon---$155-$10267-60-PVB-Feb-3/20, 60/21, 60/22, 60/23- sent 1/29


RIV:




SSR:


Carlnne---$125-$20482-150-SSR-Aug-150/20, 300/21, 150/22- sent 1/13

timff18---$120-$6355-50-SSR-Feb-0/20, 76/21, 50/22, 50/23-seller pays closing- sent 1/15

LottiesMommy---$105-$18579-160-SSR-Jun-0/20, 320/21, 160/22- sent 1/17

Sara S---$106-$14269-120-SSR-Dec-0/19, 211/20, 120/21, 120/22- sent 1/19

CmdrThor---$100-$22670-211-SSR-Feb-0/20, 370/21, 211/22-buyer pays 1/2 MF'21- sent 1/20

hskrshawn---$103-$17071-150-SSR-Sep-0/20, 150/21, 150/22- sent 1/21

LaneOT---$97-$11960-110-SSR-Oct-0/19, 110/20, 110/21, 110/22- sent 1/24

Justadreamaway77---$100-$22047-200-SSR-Oct-0/19, 199/20, 200/21, 200/22- sent 1/25

kimmy624---$103-$25750-250-SSR-Feb-0/20, 250/21, 250/22, 250/23-seller is paying fee- sent 1/31


VGC:



HappyThoughtsTees---$215-$17225-75-VGC-Jun-0/19, 34/20, 150/21, 75/22-seller pays MF'20- sent 1/17



VGF:



CSLucas---$177-$11405-60-VGF-Dec-0/19, 35/20, 30/21, 60/22- sent 1/13

Bobby2443---$160-$85000-500-VGF-Apr-0/19, 500/20, 500/21, 500/22- sent 1/27

najgreen---$173.5-$19518-105-VGF-Feb-0/20, 210/21, 105/22, 105/23- sent 1/27


WL/ BRV:




WL/ CCV:

Paul Stupin---$157-$8751-50-CCV@WL-Mar-0/19, 0/20, 69/21, 50/22- sent 11/27

Stacie_d---$135-$21977-150-CCV@WL-Dec-0/20, 150/21, 150/22- sent 12/24




VB:




TAKEN



AKV:

gskywalker---$92-$25610-270-AKV-Feb-0/19, 0/20, 270/21, 270/22- sent 12/22, taken 1/6


AUL:



BCV:



BLT:

kacooke74---$132-$28405-210-BLT-Dec-403/20, 210/21, 210/22- sent 12/24, taken 1/6

TXN4DISNEY---$142-$24340-160-BLT-Feb-0/19, 0/20, 106/21, 160/22- sent 12/30, taken 1/7

thebigman65---$149-$19278-125-BLT-Feb-0/20, 0/21, 125/22- sent 12/31, taken 1/10

culli---$140-$37437-250-BLT-Jun-0/19, 0/20, 470/21, 250/22- sent 12/31, taken 1/15

Princesscinderella---$138-$23260-150-BLT-Feb-0/20, 277/21, 150/22- sent 1/8, taken 1/29

TXN4DISNEY---$150-$25307-160-BLT-Apr-0/19, 0/20, 80/21, 160/22- sent 1/21, taken 1/29

Mouse511---$150-$15690-100-BLT-Jun-0/19, 0/20, 0/21, 100/22-Seller Pays '21 MF- sent 1/12, taken 1/29

thebigman65---$144-$29615-200-BLT-Feb-0/20, 0/21, 200/22, 200/23- sent 1/15, taken 1/29


BWV:

ValW---$110-$31367-270-BWV-Aug-0/20, 112/21, 270/22- sent 12/18, taken 1/6

ValW---$115-$27760-220-BWV-Aug-332/20, 220/21, 220/22-Seller Pays MF '20- sent 12/19, taken 1/6

20000LeaguesUnderTheSea---$115-$34259-270-BWV-Apr-28/19, 258/20, 270/21, 270/22- sent 12/30, taken 1/8

ValW---$118-$27070-210-BWV-Aug-0/20, 420/21, 210/22- sent 1/20, taken 1/29

Pseudonym531---$111-$32897-270-BWV-Feb-0/20, 540/21, 270/22, 270/23- sent 1/18, taken 1/29


HH:



OKW:

dvcfanjoe---$95-$8125-75-OKW-Sep-0/19, 75/20, 75/21, 75/22- sent 1/5, taken 1/15

Jkramer79---$95-$18122-170-OKW-Mar-86/20, 170/21, 170/22-Seller pays '20MF / Int'l Seller- sent 1/11, taken 1/29


OKW EXTENDED:



PVB:

DisneyMom_3---$137-$28006-190-PVB-Aug-0/19, 0/20, 190/21, 190/22- sent 1/21, taken 1/29

whitters3---$130-$21648-150-PVB-Mar-71/20, 150/21, 150/22- sent 1/15, taken 1/30


SSR:


moth72484---$90-$18585-200-SSR-Feb-0/20, 400/21, 200/22, 200/23- sent 12/16, taken 1/6

whitters3---$90-$15059-150-SSR-Aug-0/20, 139/21, 150/22- sent 1/7, taken 1/29

lisa3635---$95-$39466-405-SSR-Sep-0/19, 800/20, 405/21, 405/22- sent 1/20, taken 1/29


VGC:




VGF:




WL/ BRV:



WL/ CCV:



VB:

 

[Eldon32]

I suspect they have been waiting to see how many people are late on dues to judge foreclosure - and that for many of the people would might be able to afford DVC, the demographic is likely highly employed and still able to make payments on both mortgage and dues. The bill is also likely a higher priority for those who are on the border to afford it (IMO), since they likely haven't had a good vacation in a year or more at this point.

If we look at the OC Comptroller Website:

Total deeds granted to "Disney Vacation Development" (ROFR or transfer in lieu for foreclosure)...
02/01/2019 - 01/31/2020 = 2987 deeds
02/01/2020 - 01/31/2021 = 1381 deeds

Total judgments granted to "Palm Financial" (foreclosure due to lapse in mortgage)...
02/01/2019 - 01/31/2020 = 299 judgements
02/01/2020 - 01/31/2021 = 95 judgements

I suspect that ROFR will continue to increase. I think there is going to be strong demand for vacations as we go forward. DVC will need the inventory, and I also suspect the other usual avenues for DVC reclaiming sold-out resorts may be a bit light in inventory.

Also think about, it probably takes Disney 30-45 days to close and ready points for resale. They need inventory to sell, and the iron is only going to get hotter as we get later into the year. For families looking to secure a vacation home they can use this year, and assuming everything works out in best-case around the world, now is a great time to purchase with plenty of time to schedule against availability. The "value of flexibility" they can pitch has never looked as good as it does now.

 

[bookwormde]

I suspect they have been waiting to see how many people are late on dues to judge foreclosure - and that for many of the people would might be able to afford DVC, the demographic is likely highly employed and still able to make payments on both mortgage and dues. The bill is also likely a higher priority for those who are on the border to afford it (IMO), since they likely haven't had a good vacation in a year or more at this point.

If we look at the OC Comptroller Website:

Total deeds granted to "Disney Vacation Development" (ROFR or transfer in lieu for foreclosure)...
02/01/2019 - 01/31/2020 = 2987 deeds
02/01/2020 - 01/31/2021 = 1381 deeds

Total judgments granted to "Palm Financial" (foreclosure due to lapse in mortgage)...
02/01/2019 - 01/31/2020 = 299 judgements
02/01/2020 - 01/31/2021 = 95 judgements

I suspect that ROFR will continue to increase. I think there is going to be strong demand for vacations as we go forward. DVC will need the inventory, and I also suspect the other usual avenues for DVC reclaiming sold-out resorts may be a bit light in inventory.

Also think about, it probably takes Disney 30-45 days to close and ready points for resale. They need inventory to sell, and the iron is only going to get hotter as we get later into the year. For families looking to secure a vacation home they can use this year, and assuming everything works out in best-case around the world, now is a great time to purchase with plenty of time to schedule against availability. The "value of flexibility" they can pitch has never looked as good as it does now.

thanks for the data

We know that there will be strong demand from existing DVC members due to the point glut and a general pent up demand for vacations from those missed during the pandemic, I am interested in what factors will drive vacations to WDW and to entice families to make the major purchase that DVC is in excess of what has been typical.

 

[gisele2]

Thanks for the data .

 

[CSLucas]

thanks for the data

We know that there will be strong demand from existing DVC members due to the point glut and a general pent up demand for vacations from those missed during the pandemic, I am interested in what factors will drive vacations to WDW and to entice families to make the major purchase that DVC is in excess of what has been typical.

I would suspect that any time Disney aggressively exercises its ROFR that direct demand will increase- as resale prices push higher, people who are on the fence between resale and direct will see less benefit to going resale, and those direct contracts will become an easier pitch. My family is actually in this position right now - we have two contracts in ROFR, and they are for about the max we would be willing to pay resale before deciding that the savings aren't worth the lack of the blue card.

 

[EM Lawrence]

I suspect that having to put cash paying guests in DVC rooms at deluxe resorts is probably driving some ROFR too. I was looking at cash rooms today and there is a lot of DVC availability for cash bokings.

 

[Sandisw]

I suspect that having to put cash paying guests in DVC rooms at deluxe resorts is probably driving some ROFR too. I was looking at cash rooms today and there is a lot of DVC availability for cash bokings.

I am not sure there is not a lot of that going on anymore now that they have other resorts open.

Of course, the more points they take back, the more rooms they get to sell for cash at the deluxe level and with BWI, AKL, Poly, WL, and BC still closed, that does help for sure!

 

[bookwormde]

I would suspect that any time Disney aggressively exercises its ROFR that direct demand will increase- as resale prices push higher, people who are on the fence between resale and direct will see less benefit to going resale, and those direct contracts will become an easier pitch. My family is actually in this position right now - we have two contracts in ROFR, and they are for about the max we would be willing to pay resale before deciding that the savings aren't worth the lack of the blue card.

i you do not mind me asking, are you looking for resorts that had the recent direct price increases?