ROFR Thread April to June 2022 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

[BamaGuy44]

I need one of you guys to buy the $95 Aulani at Fidelity please. I can't do June UY and it's bigger than I need.

Done! Nah, just kidding I would never stand in the way of your quest for lowball Aulani contracts

 

[RamblinWreck]

I just feel like as of right now this is not the case. Sellers are asking too much for VGF and are not budging much on price. As of right now it’s not that much to buy direct VGF than resale.

You definitely have to put the work in to find the right seller, or just get lucky.

But check the front page of this thread. Several people have gotten some great deals on VGF since it went into active sales.

 

[MICKIMINI]

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Ya, really! If we keep the heat at 50 this winter (when it is -20), maybe we can pick up another contract...why waste 5K being warm?

 

[mastersenton]

You definitely have to put the work in to find the right seller, or just get lucky.

But check the front page of this thread. Several people have gotten some great deals on VGF since it went into active sales.

Oh I agree with you but it makes things difficult when theirs not very many VGF contracts on the market and an even slimmer number of contracts with the use year you might be looking for. I sat down crunched the numbers for myself and figured out that direct is better for me on what I'm looking for. I was looking at Aulani and almost pulled the trigger on a resale contract but I couldn't get past the dues. So now I either decide buy VGF now or wait for poly.

 

[JoeDisney247365]

Keep trying!! Aulani definitely can be night at low prices. You just need to find the right seller.

I honestly had zero plans to add on until POLY2 came out in a few years but some of these Aulani contracts are just so tempting. So far I'm striking out though.

 

[HappyThoughtsTees]

Awesome deal. My own attempts at such a contract have been torpedoed by agent after agent haha. Though I am looking at less points so that might be part of it.

Don't give up. It's a numbers game, but it's worth it. I've snagged AUL for $88pp, $90pp and $103pp in the last year. All around 200 point contracts.

 

[Huskerpaul]

Do you ever feel like resale just isn't worth the hassle? For what will ultimately amount (for me) a difference of $1600 over 42 years.

I guess if you are in no rush to get the points then fine, but if you want to book something before it's no longer available then it seem like more hassle than it's worth. And I don't know how closing costs compare to buying direct??

For me the difference by BWV resale vs. Direct was over $20,000 spread over just 20 years. So clearly a much different calculation than yours.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

For me the difference by BWV resale vs. Direct was over $20,000 spread over just 20 years. So clearly a much different calculation than yours.

Not even spread over 20 years. You realize those savings on the day you close.

A person who spends $30,000 on a resale contract on June 1 has the same points as a person who spends $50,000 on that same contract direct on June 1. It doesn't take until 2042 for the savings to be realized because you're both holding an asset worth the same amount of money.

(Setting aside Riviera and future restrictions, which is more of a qualitative factor than a quantitative one. That doesn't mean it's an irrelevant consideration, just one that can't really be measured.)

 

[SeasonneRose]

For me the difference by BWV resale vs. Direct was over $20,000 spread over just 20 years. So clearly a much different calculation than yours.

For $20k…definitely! But I’m buying vgf and the resale is just not that much off the price of direct.

 

[hglenn]

For $20k…definitely! But I’m buying vgf and the resale is just not that much off the price of direct.

I think we all agree that resale is the only way to go in certain circumstances (BWV, BCV, etc.), however, other situations where direct makes the most sense due to various factors - some which are not financial... wait time, blue card, RIV access, etc.... I agree, unless you can score VGF at sub $150/160, I'd go direct.

 

[Jgc014]

I think we all agree that resale is the only way to go in certain circumstances (BWV, BCV, etc.), however, other situations where direct makes the most sense due to various factors - some which are not financial... wait time, blue card, RIV access, etc.... I agree, unless you can score VGF at sub $150/160, I'd go direct.

Agree - if you are trying to plan trips now, which it sounds like you are, and could get additional direct incentives for purchasing more VGF, which I think you said you could, I wouldn’t mess around with resale for a savings for $1600.

 

[clarker99]

Clarker99---$198-$5657-25-BCV-Oct-0/21, 25/22, 25/23- sent 4/16

Still waiting on ROFR... so frustrating. Should have talked my wife into VGF2 direct (and maybe I still should). We just wanted that 11 month BCV window too much. I have decided I will not be doing resale in the future if it is a small add-on. This BCV contract works out to less than $85/yr over 20yrs vs. direct. I would rather have the points a month ago the more I think about it. Oh, well.

 

[hglenn]

Still waiting on ROFR... so frustrating. Should have talked my wife into VGF2 direct (and maybe I still should). We just wanted that 11 month BCV window too much. I have decided I will not be doing resale in the future if it is a small add-on. This BCV contract works out to less than $85/yr over 20yrs vs. direct. I would rather have the points a month ago the more I think about it. Oh, well.

I can appreciate your situation... we are now on day 61 since we placed our bid. Was a relief to make it through ROFR (35 days) but the stages beyond that are just as frustrating...

 

[wnielsen1]

Still waiting on ROFR... so frustrating. Should have talked my wife into VGF2 direct (and maybe I still should). We just wanted that 11 month BCV window too much. I have decided I will not be doing resale in the future if it is a small add-on. This BCV contract works out to less than $85/yr over 20yrs vs. direct. I would rather have the points a month ago the more I think about it. Oh, well.

They're not taking it, you just have to wait it out.

 

[clarker99]

They're not taking it, you just have to wait it out.

Oh, I know they are not taking it and I will continue waiting My last contract passed on day 21 and the whole process was 59days (Offer to points in account). This is gonna be 75+ days assuming the seller signs closing docs immediately. In 2022 we should be able to process this type of transaction almost immediately, like Disney themselves does.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

An Aulani naysayer who then says it will likely be the last contract he sells.

Now that is a new category of Aulani owner all by itself!

Wait. Could that be me too?

I know. I'm so full of $hit. I was thrashing AUL for 2 years on these boards before I bought it. But I've already explained why it made sense for me to buy a subsidized contract. But I still stand by my views on the Hawaii economy and politics. I just hope I'll be wrong.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I know. I'm so full of $hit. I was thrashing AUL for 2 years on these boards before I bought it. But I've already explained why it made sense for me to buy a subsidized contract. But I still stand by my views on the Hawaii economy and politics. I just hope I'll be wrong.

But even if the state went to hell, or the resort went to hell, they're still perfectly functional as 7 month SAP for WDW.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

But even if the state went to hell, or the resort went to hell, they're still perfectly functional as 7 month SAP for WDW.

Yes! I fully anticipate using my AUL SAP to book GVs and cabins at CCV in the near future!

 

[MinnieSueB]

You definitely have to put the work in to find the right seller, or just get lucky.

But check the front page of this thread. Several people have gotten some great deals on VGF since it went into active sales.

Prices have really come down since I made my offer in March but that 1000 point VGF contract is still hanging around! lol

 

[HIRyeDVC]

Prices have really come down since I made my offer in March but that 1000 point VGF contract is still hanging around! lol

It's listed for $180k. With the current direct incentives, one can buy it direct for $187k for that many points. I would say, the seller can maybe get someone to bite at $150-160pp?