ROFR Thread April to June 2019 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

[Marionnette]

Thank you for explaining that for me. So what you’re saying is unless it’s for banking purposes the Use Year really doesn’t bear any issue on anything providing you’re vacationing in the correct time period to use them all. Also, rule of thumb is points can be used (providing they are banked) for 24 months after issue. So theoretically if I had a 100 of my 2021 points left after my 2021 vacation I could bank those and use them towards my 2023 vacation? I only intend visiting every 2 years as I’m overseas so 2022 would be another fallow year points wise.

As long as the trip doesn’t fall in December 2023, that would work.

However, I would point out that if you routinely travel in the fall, a Dec UY is probably not the best choice.

 

[Iestyn5150]

As long as the trip doesn’t fall in December 2023, that would work.

However, I would point out that if you routinely travel in the fall, a Dec UY is probably not the best choice.

We would always be travelling in September and would always be booking 11 months in advance. If that’s the case what would be the draw back of a December UY?

 

[Marionnette]

We would always be travelling in September and would always be booking 11 months in advance. If that’s the case what would be the draw back of a December UY?

If you have to cancel, you only have a few weeks to book and use all of those points. September is past your banking deadline for the current UY. All banked and borrowed points expire on Nov. 30 of the UY into which they had been banked or borrowed.

ETA - I think you may want to start a new thread for these questions. It’s not fair to the people following the ROFR thread to have multiple off-topic posts.

 

[Iestyn5150]

If you have to cancel, you only have a few weeks to book and use all of those points. September is past your banking deadline for the current UY. All banked and borrowed points expire on Nov. 30 of the UY into which they had been banked or borrowed.

Gotcha. So it’s only a bad UY if we had to cancel our trip. That shouldn’t ever be an issue as we have always travelled in September and wouldn’t ever cancel unless it was a dire emergency, in which case we’d lose the points but if it was an emergency then that would probably be the least of our problems. Thanks for pointing that out though, it’s good to keep in mind going forward.

 

[lovin'fl]

Oh yeah, I think they're taking the one I am selling (200 OKW June UY at $92 sent 4/27). I had a feeling before and it's stronger now. I am cool with it as I get paid either way. But congrats on yours passing so quick!

I was correct...they took mine.

lovin'fl (seller)---$92-$19585-200-OKW-Jun-0/18, 73/19, 200/20- sent 4/27, taken 5/14

 

[chicagoshannon]

I was correct...they took mine.

lovin'fl (seller)---$92-$19585-200-OKW-Jun-0/18, 73/19, 200/20- sent 4/27, taken 5/14

let us know how long it takes to get your check from Disney. I'm curious about that.

 

[Transvection]

3rd times a charm? New Bid sent to ROFR

Shawn Miller---$104-$27760-260-AKV-Apr-0/17, 0/18, 137/19, 260/20- sent 5/14

 

[JackArchie]

My first VGC contract, fingers crossed!

JackArchie---$155-$8857-50-VGC-Feb-0/18, 100/19, 50/20, 50/21- sent 5/13

 

[chicagoshannon]

My first VGC contract, fingers crossed!

JackArchie---$155-$8857-50-VGC-Feb-0/18, 100/19, 50/20, 50/21- sent 5/13

wow! All the contracts for VGC I've seen lately are for $200+. Good luck!

 

[JackArchie]

wow! All the contracts for VGC I've seen lately are for $200+. Good luck!

Thank you, need some pixie dust!

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

Gotcha. So it’s only a bad UY if we had to cancel our trip. That shouldn’t ever be an issue as we have always travelled in September and wouldn’t ever cancel unless it was a dire emergency, in which case we’d lose the points but if it was an emergency then that would probably be the least of our problems. Thanks for pointing that out though, it’s good to keep in mind going forward.

The point of a good UY is that you can cancel in the case of a dire emergency and not have to worry about the points and have time to use the points after the emergency has passed. We've had ot cancel very last minute twice due to deaths in the family. The nice things was at the time it was no more than a phone call to cancel - it was pre-online booking.

 

[lovin'fl]

let us know how long it takes to get your check from Disney. I'm curious about that.

Will do. Broker said paperwork would arrive around May 30 (2 weeks). I will come back and tell the full timeline.

 

[TexasChick123]

Will do. Broker said paperwork would arrive around May 30 (2 weeks). I will come back and tell the full timeline.

Wouldn’t it be easier for us to be able to sell them back to Disney if they want it rather than having to go through all this nonsense when we want to sell? I get that they don’t want all of them, but I wish we could just send in some form of paperwork to them with the price we want and get a “Yay” or “Nay” response rather than listing it, waiting on a buyer, sending it to ROFR, and then hearing.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

Wouldn’t it be easier for us to be able to sell them back to Disney if they want it rather than having to go through all this nonsense when we want to sell? I get that they don’t want all of them, but I wish we could just send in some form of paperwork to them with the price we want and get a “Yay” or “Nay” response rather than listing it, waiting on a buyer, sending it to ROFR, and then hearing.

That removes market pricing from the equation. With ROFR you first have a confirmed agreement. If you just sent in what you wanted there's no negotiating and nobody would ever know if you could find a buyer for that price or not. Years ago apparently with BCV at least DVC would offer to buy back but the price was so low it was laughable. Makes sense on their behalf though as why should they possibly overpay. ROFR allows you to negotiate as high as you possibly could. Then DVC can decide if it's worth them to match and take that offer.

 

[TexasChick123]

That removes market pricing from the equation. With ROFR you first have a confirmed agreement. If you just sent in what you wanted there's no negotiating and nobody would ever know if you could find a buyer for that price or not. Years ago apparently with BCV at least DVC would offer to buy back but the price was so low it was laughable. Makes sense on their behalf though as why should they possibly overpay. ROFR allows you to negotiate as high as you possibly could. Then DVC can decide if it's worth them to match and take that offer.

Good points. Fair enough.

 

[lovin'fl]

Wouldn’t it be easier for us to be able to sell them back to Disney if they want it rather than having to go through all this nonsense when we want to sell? I get that they don’t want all of them, but I wish we could just send in some form of paperwork to them with the price we want and get a “Yay” or “Nay” response rather than listing it, waiting on a buyer, sending it to ROFR, and then hearing.

I do think they are missing out on a good market to trade points. I could have traded my 200 OKW points (sold back to them) for some CCV (bought from them). They'd get points cheap and even sell more points to boot. I would have done that. And, shoot, they'd likely give way lower $ pp than the $92 they are paying for my OKW and I'd have accepted in order to put that $ towards a CCV contract. Now DH does not want to buy ANYMORE but if it was all one transaction he might have done it.

 

[Paul_S]

Paul_S---$90-$7264-73-OKW-Apr-0/18, 0/19, 73/20, 73/21- sent 4/12

Taken today, boo!

 

[chicagoshannon]

chicagoshannon---$100-$10694-100-AKV-Jun-0/18, 23/19, 100/20- sent 4/30

It finally got submitted today, 8 days after offer submitted. Don't have much hope but maybe in the next couple weeks Disney will decide they have enough AKL contracts.

I think they are just trying to push the price up past $120 is my guess.

chicagoshannon---$100-$10694-100-AKV-Jun-0/18, 23/19, 100/20- sent 4/30- passed 5/14

I'm SHOCKED this passed.

 

[jackieleanne]

chicagoshannon---$100-$10694-100-AKV-Jun-0/18, 23/19, 100/20- sent 4/30- passed 5/14

I'm SHOCKED this passed.

Yay congratulations. Glad to see more AKV passing. I'm waiting on mine that was submitted on the 1st.

 

[ScubaCat]

Good points. Fair enough.

I do think they are missing out on a good market to trade points. I could have traded my 200 OKW points (sold back to them) for some CCV (bought from them). They'd get points cheap and even sell more points to boot. I would have done that. And, shoot, they'd likely give way lower $ pp than the $92 they are paying for my OKW and I'd have accepted in order to put that $ towards a CCV contract. Now DH does not want to buy ANYMORE but if it was all one transaction he might have done it.

Think of the black jack dealer. The house always plays last so the players can bust out first. Different scenario, but same principle. The house always wins in the long run.