RIP Pope Francis

[TwoMisfits]

Pope John Paul became Pope at age 58. He is the longest serving Pope since the 20th century at 27 years. Very Charismatic and one of the most beloved Popes in my lifetime (70 years). A side note, one of the last persons to have audience with Pope Francis was US VP JD Vance (who is a Catholic and was in Italy to discuss trade issues).

Just to clarify - that was Pope John Paul II. Pope John Paul preceded Pope John Paul II and literally was pope only 33 days before an unexpected death, one of the shortest periods ever for a pope. It's one reason Pope John Paul II took his name right after - to honor him.

Pope John Paul also lobbied strongly not to be pope. When selected anyway, he thought he had no choice but to accept at that point.

 

[sailorstitch]

Honestly, I was surprised he made it out of the hospital after having double pneumonia.

 

[Forevermarypoppins]

I'm sad. I was so hopeful when he left the hospital this past time. But I do have comfort in knowing he did not die in thehospital and he was able to have his time yesterday addressing the people who gathered outside the Vatican. May he be in our Lord's heaven now!

 

[gatordoc]

Requiescat in Pace

 

[HopperFan]

Maybe too controversial for here (subject to polite discussion), but anyway, I'd like to see whomever is the next in line to work on the church being more inclusive of women, in all aspects of the church

DH and I talked about this, kinda, tonight. For background he was raised Catholic, we were married Catholic, our kids christened Catholic (for grandparents) but he stopped attending about when all the "bad stuff" came to light. I come from Protestant, Catholic and Jewish grandparents, while I attended mass some, I was raised Protestant until I stopped attending in high school.

Pope Francis seemed a progressive, more accepting, more loving to all kinds of people. He was well respected by many who were not Catholic. I feel like his modernization kept many younger people and those not previously included ... involved and engaged.

I wonder if they choose someone who wants to go back to previous views, restrictions and exclusions ... do they risk more folks leaving? As you say more inclusive of women (my aunt was a nun and teacher) would be a positive move. But I imagine who is chosen will be the guiding force behind that. It is going to be very interesting to see what course they choose for the future and the impact it will make.

 

[Turn the Page]

According to CNN the Vatican has released the cause of death. Evidently the autopsy results (I didn't know they did autopsies on popes but evidently they do sometimes) said he suffered a stroke, fell into a coma, and developed heart failure. It sounds like it was quite sudden and didn't have anything at all to do with his battle with pneumonia.

 

[Forevermarypoppins]

The movie, Conclave, does a good job of showing what goes on behind the scenes of electing a pope. It's available on Peacock.

A few years ago, CNN did a documentary called, "Pope: The Most Powerful Man in History". It started with Peter and worked its way through the popes, comparing and contrasting their stories to modern popes. It's available on Prime.

Thank you, that sounds like something I would enjoy.

 

[Dan Murphy]

I wonder if they choose someone who wants to go back to previous views, restrictions and exclusions ... do they risk more folks leaving?

I would think they would lose those folks gained over recent years and probably even more beyond those.

 

[HopperFan]

I would think they would lose those folks gained over recent years and probably even more beyond those.

Agreed. So it will be interesting what path they choose to take. With so many different philosophies within, it could go many ways.

 

[bobbiwoz]

RIP Pope Francis
I was thrilled when he took the name Francis.

 

[Dan Murphy]

 

[Dan Murphy]

Another from my 2nd morning paper.

 

[anrew]

RIP Pope Francis
see you on the other side