Results of MB data mining

[mom2rtk]

I always wonder what I'm searching for, because I get the most random targeted ads, like for adult diapers. Also, I frequently get ads in Spanish. My search history must be really weird.

LOL, so you're saying this "data mining" thing maybe needs some fine tuning?

 

[Flamingeaux]

I read that, the US government had some issues with privacy and so the personalization was dropped.

This US government has issues with privacy. Now that is funny.

 

[DisneyDetective]

I think their main focus is expanding the use of MagicBands and Fastpass+ with a possible option to reserve a 4th attraction on your account.

 

[Luvchefmic]

JanaDee said: ↑
To paraphrase, that isn't how it works-that isn't how any of it works.

I said:
Pass the tin foil we need more hats in here

Luvchefmic, Yesterday at 7:14 PM
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Tonka's Skipper likes this.

To clarify I was agreeing with JanaDee.

Get yourself one of those metal wallets to block your credit card magnetic strips, use AdBlock Plus ( free download ) and you won't see the ads, don't sign up for any reward loyalty things at stores, etc etc etc and you will still be tracked.

Cradle to grave we're a social security number. Don't expect privacy. Don't get paranoid.

 

[kay1864]

Get yourself one of those metal wallets to block your credit card magnetic strips

The article said that those wallets are to block RFID readers, not magnetic readers. Magnetic strips cannot be read at a distance, only by swiping the card through a device.

 

[cranbiz]

I beleive they can read the strip with nothing more then a a
scanner by the doors and them follow it as you shop and buy.

Nope, Not possible. Unless you voluntarily swipe your card.

Magnetic stripe readers require the magnetic stripe to pass by the read head and pass by closely and at a minimum speed.

A magnetic stripe is a passive data repository. Data is encoded by the way the magnetic particles are arranged. It transmits nothing in open air.

RFID, different story.

If you still refuse to believe those of us who have politely tried to educate you, try this experiment. Next time you get gas, do not swipe your credit card in the card reader. Waive it in front of the pump, as close as you like, and see if the pump accepts it.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Nope, Not possible. Unless you voluntarily swipe your card.

Magnetic stripe readers require the magnetic stripe to pass by the read head and pass by closely and at a minimum speed.

A magnetic stripe is a passive data repository. Data is encoded by the way the magnetic particles are arranged. It transmits nothing in open air.

RFID, different story.

If you still refuse to believe those of us who have politely tried to educate you, try this experiment. Next time you get gas, do not swipe your credit card in the card reader. Waive it in front of the pump, as close as you like, and see if the pump accepts it.

For the sake of discussion and this seems to be a burr under your saddles,.........say your right...........As I have politely pointed out 3 times, the point is with all the means to track, scan and collect massive amounts of data by stores, agencies, marketers, etc,,,,,,,,,etc,,,,,, , which they then often sell, the information the MB collect as the type of stuffed character and which meal you buy at WDW is not the problem.


AKK

 

[JanaDee]

For the sake of discussion and this seems to be a burr under your saddles,.........say your right...........As I have politely pointed out 3 times, the point is with all the means to track, scan and collect massive amounts of data by stores, agencies, marketers, etc,,,,,,,,,etc,,,,,, , which they then often sell, the information the MB collect as the type of stuffed character and which meal you buy at WDW is not the problem.


AKK

There are ways stores can track you...having a store loyalty card and using a credit/debit card (in a card reader you swipe ONLY) are 2 of the more obvious ways. They aren't tracking you just by walking in/around their store or if you use cash to purchase merchandise.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

There are ways stores can track you...having a store loyalty card and using a credit/debit card (in a card reader you swipe ONLY) are 2 of the more obvious ways. They aren't tracking you just by walking in/around their store or if you use cash to purchase merchandise.

They can track you with yours phones, cameras following you with face recognition, any number of ways....they can buy the information on the various credit cards ,sales records, etc,etc,,,,if your trying to say that no one does this massive collection of data, then I am finished with the discussion because facts show your very wrong.

My point has been made.

 

[JanaDee]

They can track you with yours phones, cameras following you with face recognition, any number of ways....they can buy the information on the various credit cards ,sales records, etc,etc,,,,if your trying to say that no one does this massive collection of data, then I am finished with the discussion because facts show your very wrong.

My point has been made.

The only way they can track you by your phone is if you are using their wifi system and have location services enabled. I will give you cameras, I forgot about that one, but that is your face only, not any other personal identifying info.

 

[cranbiz]

For the sake of discussion and this seems to be a burr under your saddles,.........say your right...........As I have politely pointed out 3 times, the point is with all the means to track, scan and collect massive amounts of data by stores, agencies, marketers, etc,,,,,,,,,etc,,,,,, , which they then often sell, the information the MB collect as the type of stuffed character and which meal you buy at WDW is not the problem.
AKK

No burr under my saddle. I believe these were your quotes:

".if you have a credit card with a magnetic strip they scan it as you enter"

and

"I beleive they can read the strip with nothing more then a a
scanner by the doors"

Other things you said are true and I don't dispute them. Stores do track your purchases and then target mailings, etc to you. Giant retailers sell their data, it's big bucks. Again, I don't disagree. Use a companies smartphone app, they know what you like and buy, use a loyalty card, yup, same thing. Most even state that they will send you promotions based on your shopping habits. Turn off location services and don't use a stores hotspot if you don't want them tracking you.

While you politely pointed this out, you also believe that a simple magnetic strip can be read upon entering a store. You continue to state this. It's wrong! That's my entire point. Nothing else.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

No burr under my saddle. I believe these were your quotes:

".if you have a credit card with a magnetic strip they scan it as you enter"

and

"I beleive they can read the strip with nothing more then a a
scanner by the doors"

Other things you said are true and I don't dispute them. Stores do track your purchases and then target mailings, etc to you. Giant retailers sell their data, it's big bucks. Again, I don't disagree. Use a companies smartphone app, they know what you like and buy, use a loyalty card, yup, same thing. Most even state that they will send you promotions based on your shopping habits. Turn off location services and don't use a stores hotspot if you don't want them tracking you.

While you politely pointed this out, you also believe that a simple magnetic strip can be read upon entering a store. You continue to state this. It's wrong! That's my entire point. Nothing else.

Then we are not really all that far apart. I have listened to radio talk shows where they were discussing that is was possible to scan a magnetic strip on a credit card with what I would expect to be new type scans. These scanners could be in the pocket of someone standing next to you or a narrow doorway. I want to ask my daughter about them but she's is on a DCL cruise until Saturday. I did not mean to disrespect you........but that is my information.

AKK

 

[cranbiz]

Ok, what it sounds like you are describing are no contact cards. These use a RFID signal to transmit data to a terminal (Like Mobil Speedpass or a access card for your company). These cards are not used for credit/debit cards. They are also not normally found as a loyalty card due to the expense. That doesn't mean that they can't be used as such.

Newer credit cards have an embedded IC chip in them and a magnetic stripe. This is still a card that must be inserted in a device to be read. If it is a smart terminal, it makes contact with the chip to verify the holders account. The strip is there as a crosscheck for the chip and for backwards compatibility for older credit card terminals.

There are some European cards that have RFID transmitters in them. They could be read by a RFID reader if it's close enough or the reader is powerful enough but they still don't read the strip remotely.

 

[larryz]

For the sake of discussion and this seems to be a burr under your saddles,.........say your right...........As I have politely pointed out 3 times, the point is with all the means to track, scan and collect massive amounts of data by stores, agencies, marketers, etc,,,,,,,,,etc,,,,,, , which they then often sell, the information the MB collect as the type of stuffed character and which meal you buy at WDW is not the problem.

There's plenty of FUD out there about credit cards. I try to point people to accurate information about information security.

I have listened to radio talk shows where they were discussing that is was possible to scan a magnetic strip on a credit card with what I would expect to be new type scans. These scanners could be in the pocket of someone standing next to you or a narrow doorway. ... I did not mean to disrespect you........but that is my information.

Radio talk shows, pod casts, so-called computer and information security experts -- those with a financial interest in selling security solutions -- often are less accurate than they would have you believe.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Ok, what it sounds like you are describing are no contact cards. These use a RFID signal to transmit data to a terminal (Like Mobil Speedpass or a access card for your company). These cards are not used for credit/debit cards. They are also not normally found as a loyalty card due to the expense. That doesn't mean that they can't be used as such.

Newer credit cards have an embedded IC chip in them and a magnetic stripe. This is still a card that must be inserted in a device to be read. If it is a smart terminal, it makes contact with the chip to verify the holders account. The strip is there as a crosscheck for the chip and for backwards compatibility for older credit card terminals.

There are some European cards that have RFID transmitters in them. They could be read by a RFID reader if it's close enough or the reader is powerful enough but they still don't read the strip remotely.

Is this the new chips that will be on the debit cards in the fall?


AKK

 

[cranbiz]

It is. My debit card now has one. I had some fraudulent usage and my bank replaced my card with the new chipped cards.

It has gold contacts on the front of the card for chip enabled readers. It does not have RFID, which is OK with me.

My Note 4 has NFC capabilities and Google wallet which I don't use and I wouldn't use Apple pay on a bet.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

It is. My debit card now has one. I had some fraudulent usage and my bank replaced my card with the new chipped cards.

It has gold contacts on the front of the card for chip enabled readers. It does not have RFID, which is OK with me.

My Note 4 has NFC capabilities and Google wallet which I don't use and I wouldn't use Apple pay on a bet.

Ok............See you learn something everyday. Cranbiz I stand corrected, thanks for the insight!

AKK