"Rescued" Bison calf euthanized today

[ZephyrHawk]

Female elk don't have horns though. It's the bulls that are the most dangerous. Females will kick though.

You are correct. I should have used a better verb. Maimed. Flattened. Pummelled. Whatever.

Don't. Feed. The. Wildlife.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I think closing the parks over this incident would be a ridiculous overreaction, but I'm all for fines (or, if necessary, ejections from the park) and extra rangers to enforce that.

It was just a comment to say that there isn't much to do about stupid people. But if too many people rescue cold animals, the parks may have to eventually close.

But yea, it would be an overreaction.

Another option would be to require personal escort.

In other words, the only real solutions left seem to be extreme ones.

 

[cornflkgrl]

It was just a comment to say that there isn't much to do about stupid people. But if too many people rescue cold animals, the parks may have to eventually close.

But yea, it would be an overreaction.

Another option would be to require personal escort.

In other words, the only real solutions left seem to be extreme ones.

Agree.

Just see how this scenario plays out if someone thinks a grizzly cub is "cold"
Mama might not be right there but she is always nearby. Seems people are never this upset when a bear is euthanized though (maybe attacking people -- even stupid people -- makes it less "cute")

 

[cornflkgrl]

[QUOTE="barkley, post: 55780582, member: 64696

that someone is stupid enough to get within 30 feet of an animal close to 7 feet tall weighing as much as 1500 pounds and capable of speeds up to 30 mph is bad enough-that they will then yank their kids out of the car 'to see bullwinkle' and have them jumping around, screaming and causing the animal to get startled or in the case of a mama-down right p.o'd and raring to take out the threat to her calves is insane.[/QUOTE]


Something like this happened to me by accident not long after I moved out to Montana. Moose are scary! I was hiking and ran up real close to a baby. I was marveling (having previously lived in a city - first wildlife encounter) over how cute, etc. Meanwhile my hiking partner was freaking out and couldn't understand why I hadn't taken off uphill with purpose to get away. Go go go. I was like, huh? Why? Cute baby! Lookvatvthe baby! He is like: where are YOU lookin?!!! Look up!!!!!! It suddenly came into focus. Mom was standing right behind the baby in the trees and she wasn't happy.

Quickest elevation change ever on foot. And I mean this was a steep hike and I still had elevation sickness because it hadn't even been 24 hrs, but I was stepping.

I think moose are scarier than bears in a way.

 

[L&Lfan]

Those probably aren't as genetically pure as the Yellowstone area's bison. Bison were bred with domestic cattle, and a lot of the wild population have cattle genes that may make them more docile. There were also escaped cattle that may have mated with bison.

Nearly all ranched bison have domestic cattle ancestry.

Bison are rather unpredictable though. I don't know about two speeds. I've waited as a line of bison were crossing the road slowly. I've never seen a stampede (I suppose Dances With Wolves was pretty accurate). I have driven by and saw bison gently galloping. Here's one running along a road in Canada. I don't think the driver is doing anything to provoke it, like stop in front of it.

I believe there are buffalo stampedes in The Vanishing Prairie (1954) and How the West Was Won (1962). I never saw Dances with Wolves. No interest.

 

[Gumbo4x4]

[QUOTE="barkley, post: 55780582, member: 64696

that someone is stupid enough to get within 30 feet of an animal close to 7 feet tall weighing as much as 1500 pounds and capable of speeds up to 30 mph is bad enough-that they will then yank their kids out of the car 'to see bullwinkle' and have them jumping around, screaming and causing the animal to get startled or in the case of a mama-down right p.o'd and raring to take out the threat to her calves is insane.

Something like this happened to me by accident not long after I moved out to Montana. Moose are scary! I was hiking and ran up real close to a baby. I was marveling (having previously lived in a city - first wildlife encounter) over how cute, etc. Meanwhile my hiking partner was freaking out and couldn't understand why I hadn't taken off uphill with purpose to get away. Go go go. I was like, huh? Why? Cute baby! Lookvatvthe baby! He is like: where are YOU lookin?!!! Look up!!!!!! It suddenly came into focus. Mom was standing right behind the baby in the trees and she wasn't happy.

Quickest elevation change ever on foot. And I mean this was a steep hike and I still had elevation sickness because it hadn't even been 24 hrs, but I was stepping.

I think moose are scarier than bears in a way.[/QUOTE]


We had an up close & personal moose experience in Colorado while elk hunting. We found a young female moose caught in a fence. We were able to free her & she all but walked right over my brother-in-law. This was a small one, maybe 4-500 lbs, but still very imposing up close!

 

[Adelle Dazeem]

And as a total aside, a bison left the biggest turd I've ever seen.

They named it Steve Ott.

 

[kimblebee]

He was Canadian...

We're sorry

 

[Adelle Dazeem]

I almost named it Chris Pronger...or Corey Perry...

 

[bcla]

Update on the story. The perp just pled guilty. Apparently living in Quebec, although his name is Arabic.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/quebec...re-bison-after-yellowstone-incident-1.2928757

The fine is $235 and he was required to make a donation to a wildlife protection fund of $500. He was able to do this over the phone.

 

[pryncess527]

Update on the story. The perp just pled guilty. Apparently living in Quebec, although his name is Arabic.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/quebec...re-bison-after-yellowstone-incident-1.2928757

The fine is $235 and he was required to make a donation to a wildlife protection fund of $500. He was able to do this over the phone.

That article says

"The court has determined that the defendant does not have the ability to pay interest or penalties," the documents show.

So does this mean he was fined but they didn't make him actually pay?

 

[bcla]

So does this mean he was fined but they didn't make him actually pay?

I doubt it means that he's off the hook. However, he has until the end of October to make the donation. I suppose that means that he doesn't have to pay a interest or penalties for not paying quickly.

 

[cornflkgrl]

Saw this today and thought of this thread:
http://billingsgazette.com/lifestyl...cle_aa0b317d-9870-5835-ade4-d407dc3a6103.html

 

[bcla]

Saw this today and thought of this thread:
http://billingsgazette.com/lifestyl...cle_aa0b317d-9870-5835-ade4-d407dc3a6103.html

While what she did seems to have been stupid, I'd point out that black bears are generally known for being timid. The author claimed that it might end up badly, but black bears (even sows with cubs) typically show little aggression. They prefer wooded areas and will signal to their cubs to climb up a tree. I've heard of people scaring off a black bear sow with cubs, and they took off rather than fight back. They have an excellent sense of smell and will just track down the cubs later. They're plenty strong, but they're not typically that dangerous.

http://www.bear.org/website/bear-pa...bear-facts/103-how-timid-are-black-bears.html
http://www.bear.org/website/bear-pa...humans/119-how-dangerous-are-black-bears.html

It's not out of the realm of possibility that a black bear sow might attack defensively, but it's highly unlikely. Now a grizzly bear is another matter. Most recorded black bear attacks are predatory, but grizzlies are different.

 

[Adelle Dazeem]

Did you see the video of the dumb woman who got charged by the elk? You can hear the ranger telling her to get back, but she doesn't listen.