Replacement for GAC

[MinnieLovesMickey12]

Just out of curiosity, do you think the same of MAW kids?. They have "extreme conditions" but still really want to visit Disney. I believe the same is true for disabled people.

Are you seriously going to compare a child with a terminal illness to a child with a disability?

 

[Twinprincesses]

No matter what Disney does people are going to have an issue with it. I think due to the large amount of people that attend on a daily basis regardless of the disability you (general you) are going to have to expect some sort of a wait regardless of a disability or not. I would never ever expect Disney to let my family on a ride with little to no wait time knowing how many people go there with diabilities on a given day. Especially knowing how many children are there with Autisim. I know that my family is no more special than them.

 

[crashbb]

I don't know what you mean by "think the same". If you are asking how I feel about MAW kids getting fotl, I think it is wonderful and they absolutely should get it.

MAW is supposed to be about making the trip the most amazing experience possible - to (in some small way) make up for whatever it is the child is going through.

GAC/DAS, on the other hand, is supposed to give everyone (disabled or not) the same experience. It is not supposed to make up for the child/adult having a disability.

I probably should have quoted the person you quoted, since I'm agreeing with you (I read back through my post and it doesn't really sound that way )

 

[sunshinehighway]

We drive because my son cannot handle airports and flying. We can't take the Disney buses for the reasons you mention. We drive to the parks and walk through the parking lot. My son does not eat the food at restaurants - he only eats Cheerios, freeze dried toddler yogurt, an blueberries. I eat most of my quick service meals in the room. Sometimes restaurant work if he does not have anxiety that day and he stays in the stroller. He is five now. We tried Askershus the other day and he freaked out. I took him outside but it Was too late. He was in full panic mode. He ran away from me and I had to chase him almost all the way around world showcase. It was so terrifying. He was sobbing and just blindly running and I did not know if I would get him before he got hurt.
He can wait in short lines and he can wait in long lines that are moving. He can not understand why the people in front of us are not going.

Than you for sharing.

my post was a response to a back and forth about if I would be willing to use this new system if I were unable to wait in any line at all.

 

[AddictedtoDoleWhip]

Are you seriously going to compare a child with a terminal illness to a child with a disability?

People tend to try and use extreme examples which that one definitely was.

 

[crashbb]

Are you seriously going to compare a child with a terminal illness to a child with a disability?

Just an FYI - not all MAW children have a terminal illness. It did used to be that way, but the mandate of the MAW foundation (and other foundations like it) has changed.

Not that it changes your point, but many people do still think that all MAW have terminal illness.

 

[Kay1]

Are you seriously going to compare a child with a terminal illness to a child with a disability?

Yes. I suppose I am.

 

[IntoTheLight]

Are you seriously going to compare a child with a terminal illness to a child with a disability?

MAW kids aren't always terminal, it's a "life-threatening" illness, often some form of disability. When my son was having a really terrible seizure period our neurologist asked if it was ok to refer him. A terminal illness is one that is expected to end in death, life threatening only means there is a serious risk. We chose not to because he wasn't cognitively able to participate in a meaningful way and no, he didn't die, after 3 months we were able to get them under control.

 

[Kay1]

People tend to try and use extreme examples which that one definitely was.

I asked a simple question and some people are extremely disabled.

 

[AddictedtoDoleWhip]

I asked a simple question and some people are extremely disabled.

I don't recall me saying that there weren't extremely disabled people . I just don't know why you try to bring up MAW in hopes of someone saying something like "They don't deserve it" or something along those lines. The situations are completely different in my opinion.

 

[Kay1]

I don't know what you mean by "think the same". If you are asking how I feel about MAW kids getting fotl, I think it is wonderful and they absolutely should get it.

No. I was asking if you thought MAW (which, as has been pointed out, does not mean dying) children should avoid Disney due to their extreme conditions. I did not mention FOTL.

 

[AddictedtoDoleWhip]

No. I was asking if you thought MAW (which, as has been pointed out, does not mean dying) children should avoid Disney due to their extreme conditions. I did not mention FOTL.

No I don't think they should, either way the situations are still different in my opinion.

 

[MinnieLovesMickey12]

Yes. I suppose I am.

When you are being ridiculous with such extreme examples you lose all credibility. And every child I have ever personally known who was a MAW kid DID have a terminal illness. They may now do trips for kids that aren't dying but most of them are. And hopefully these kids with autism aren't going to die from it. If your kid has such an EXTREME DISABILITY then sign up for a MAW trip.

 

[IntoTheLight]

When you are being ridiculous with such extreme examples you lose all credibility. And every child I have ever personally known who was a MAW kid DID have a terminal illness. They may now do trips for kids that aren't dying but most of them are. And hopefully these kids with autism aren't going to die from it. If your kid has such an EXTREME DISABILITY then sign up for a MAW trip.

A. autism doesn't mean you don't have other conditions that a child can die from and B. that your saying all parents should not take their medically fragile kids somewhere unless a charity pays for it?

 

[Kay1]

When you are being ridiculous with such extreme examples you lose all credibility. And every child I have ever personally known who was a MAW kid DID have a terminal illness. They may now do trips for kids that aren't dying but most of them are. And hopefully these kids with autism aren't going to die from it. If your kid has such an EXTREME DISABILITY then sign up for a MAW trip.

Well, thanks for the nice personal attack. Don't get many of those and I'm not sure how to respond to you so I'll wish you a pleasant afternoon.

 

[sunshinehighway]

No. I was asking if you thought MAW (which, as has been pointed out, does not mean dying) children should avoid Disney due to their extreme conditions. I did not mention FOTL.

But I never said disabled people should avoid Disney. I said I would avoid Disney if I was unable to wait in any line at all. Again what I posted was a response to a series of questions having to do with how I would react to certain situations if I were in them. Please don't twist it into something it was never meant as.

 

[MinnieLovesMickey12]

A. autism doesn't mean you don't have other conditions that a child can die from and B. that your saying all parents should not take their medically fragile kids somewhere unless a charity pays for it?

No I am saying if your kid or anybody else's kid has such an extreme disability that you would compare them to a MAW kid and think you should get the same front of the line access they get then sign your kid up for a MAW trip. Because that is the only front of the line access you will be getting from here on out.

 

[jamarmiller]

about time, this is good news indeed. IT IS FAIR for once

 

[Kay1]

But I never said disabled people should avoid Disney. I said I would avoid Disney if I was unable to wait in any line at all. Again what I posted was a response to a series of questions having to do with how I would react to certain situations if I were in them. Please don't twist it into something it was never meant as.

I must have misunderstood your comment. Glad to be wrong.

 

[maxiesmom]

Yes, this is absolutely ridiculous and will hopefully be quickly changed. It is absurd to expect people who already need a GAC/DAS to reduce wait times to then give up valuable rope-drop time to get one!

I'm guessing that the windows will be open before the park opens, just like the guest services windows are open now before park open.